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SlCKB0Y

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Feb 25, 2012
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But when it comes to Android users. Specs = everything.

Overall experience? Thats iSheep nonsense!

Except you mean that for the last 18 months and foreseeable future, UX and UI design have become a major focus of Google with Android. You know, just like how Apple is adding some very fundamental features to iOS which Android has had for years...

But hey, why let facts get in the way of your normal anti-Android rants. :rolleyes:
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
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Las Vegas, NV
Is it Korea only? Not sure I care much but I think they are getting ridiculous with their different versions in a short period of time.
I'm not one to jump on the latest and greatest all the time so I'm not overly concerned. Didn't get a nexus 4 and didnt jump to get a GS4. Still using my GS3 till sometime this summer when I get something else.
 
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lazard

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Jul 23, 2012
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Is it Korea only? Not sure I care much but I think they are getting ridiculous with their different versions in a short period of time.
I'm not one to jump on the latest and greatest all the time so I'm not overly concerned. Didn't get a nexus 4 and didnt jump to get a GS4. Still using my GS3 till sometime this summer when I get something else.

Initial release is Korea only, with other countries getting it supposedly at the end of the year.
 

PollyK

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Exactly, if anything Samsung should have delayed launch for 8 weeks and given everyone either the exynos (big.little) version, or the Qualcomm 800 version.

There's no way waiting months after the HTC one was released would have been a good decision. They made the right move. The 600 is no slouch. The difference between the GS4 800 and GS4 600 is a lot smaller than the GS3 (Dual Core) and GS4 600. Yet you have people here saying upgrading from the GS3 to the GS4 is not worth it. Go figure.
 

Fireblade

macrumors 65816
Jan 25, 2011
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Italy
Exactly, if anything Samsung should have delayed launch for 8 weeks and given everyone either the exynos (big.little) version, or the Qualcomm 800 version.

No sir, 800 isn't worth 8 weeks delay for me.
Also I am glad owning a S4 with S600, because there are no advantages from Exynos.
On XDA are much more custom roms, kernels and mods for the S600 S4.
 

TommyA6

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May 15, 2013
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Yup. I always pose the reverse scenario. If Apple were the one offering a large variety of screen size options, if they were the one that first got rid of the physical home button, added NFC or notification lights, or smart pen usage or user replaceable batteries, etc., and Android OEMs were the ones insisting on and producing only 3.5 or 4" screens, sticking it out with the physical home buttons, refusing to add notification lights, would these same people be as forgiving, understanding, and apologetic?

If I had to guess, I'd say no.

Most of the iPhone 5's specs, if produced by any other manufacturer, would be considered a mid-range device.

I'm sorry, but iPhone 5 with it's "mid range" internals manages to be faster and smoother than any android phone out there, so what does it say about those other manufacturers?
And BTW, don't the majority of the s4s have an outdated GPU (adreno 320, which is less powerful than iPhone 5's year old SGX 543 mp3) ??, which actually shows in running heavy games!
 

kevinof

macrumors 6502a
Jul 30, 2008
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Dublin/London
Really? Which? mag just rated the iphone 5 as one of the slowest smartphones out there.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/10138924/Which-iPhone-5-is-slowest-smartphone.html



I'm sorry, but iPhone 5 with it's "mid range" internals manages to be faster and smoother than any android phone out there, so what does it say about those other manufacturers?
And BTW, don't the majority of the s4s have an outdated GPU (adreno 320, which is less powerful than iPhone 5's year old SGX 543 mp3) ??, which actually shows in running heavy games!
 

TommyA6

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May 15, 2013
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Really? Which? mag just rated the iphone 5 as one of the slowest smartphones out there.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/10138924/Which-iPhone-5-is-slowest-smartphone.html

Typical nonsense. What they did there is benchmark those phones with the Geekbench app and that's it. No other benchmarks were done, and most importantly no real world usage tests were provided (browsing speed, overall smoothness, opening apps)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy88Pxt4g9c , this is iPhone 5 running early beta of the software (beta 2, and is still faster and smoother than the galaxy s4)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n511aWfNCgY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0lkgY9msMU
 

Dr McKay

macrumors 68040
Aug 11, 2010
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Same here......I have the S4 from launch day and don't feel one ounce of regret or.......well if I had waited i might have gotten something better.
Its funny because in technology....there will always be something faster and better....just wait a few months.
Then as others have pointed out this release will not make it around for a while to the States where I am so.....makes no difference.....

Precisely, my S4 does exactly what I bought it for, it still has a rather nice Snapdragon 600 Processor to power any games I play (not many).

It still has a gorgeous 5 inch 1080x1920 screen. Still has a brilliant 13MP Camera that delivers me excellent photos.

Only in an Apple forum will you find people actually complaining about technology moving forward. Apple die hards have proven time and time again that they have become so conditioned on receiving such slow upgrades to hardware and software that anything else is undesirable. Apple execs must laugh at the fact how apologetic and defensive you die hards are for their slow behind the curve development model.

Remember the uproar when Apple released the iPad 4 so soon into the release cycle after the iPad 3? Oh lord I remember the uproar, with people using the words "betrayed" to describe how they felt about Apple not waiting a year. As if their iPads would suddenly stop working and fall to pieces.
 

lazard

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Jul 23, 2012
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Exactly, if anything Samsung should have delayed launch for 8 weeks and given everyone either the exynos (big.little) version, or the Qualcomm 800 version.

It would have been a much longer delay than 8 weeks since the 800 chip wasn't even delivered to OEMs until Q2. No way Samsung, or any OEM, goes more than 12 months between flagship phones.
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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It would have been a much longer delay than 8 weeks since the 800 chip wasn't even delivered to OEMs until Q2. No way Samsung, or any OEM, goes more than 12 months between flagship phones.

I think people are reading me wrong, I don't think they made a mistake getting the S4 out when they did... I was replying to the point where it was said Qualcom should have gotten the S800 out sooner, and the reply after that saying they were only following their roadmap, hence I added a qualifier 'if anything they should have delayed so we all had exynos or 800.... The emphasis I meant is on the 'IF' - as I do think it's better for consumers to all share 1 SKU rather than 3 or 4 varying SKU's. But generally most folks don't care whats inside their phone as long as its fast and responsive and better than their previous model anyway....
 

sentinelsx

macrumors 68010
Feb 28, 2011
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I'm sorry, but iPhone 5 with it's "mid range" internals manages to be faster and smoother than any android phone out there, so what does it say about those other manufacturers?

I find it funny that in one thread benchmarks are posted to show that the iPhone 5 is no where closer to "midrange" with its CPU, GPU, and memory bandwidth all edging the competition, and in another thread, all of a sudden it becomes a "midrange" to show how much better it runs iOS. Wow.

So which exactly is it? Are those benchmarks false or is midrange definition changed?
 

TommyA6

macrumors 65816
May 15, 2013
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I find it funny that in one thread benchmarks are posted to show that the iPhone 5 is no where closer to "midrange" with its CPU, GPU, and memory bandwidth all edging the competition, and in another thread, all of a sudden it becomes a "midrange" to show how much better it runs iOS. Wow.

So which exactly is it? Are those benchmarks false or is midrange definition changed?

I certainly don't think it's internals are mid range, far from it, but some people here see quad/octa core and iPhone "only" dual core A6 and claim it's midrange. (while, obviously, in reality it's the top of the range SoC)
 
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