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thehustleman

macrumors 65816
Jan 3, 2013
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1
Are you kidding me? You do know the apple took a lot of features from others and just made it better? They are notorious for that. They invented nothing new. Do u consider that copying? open ur eyes... they are not that innocent. Smh

They definitely didn't make the multi tasking better. That just sucks
 

KentuckyHouse

macrumors 68030
Jan 29, 2010
2,723
998
Lexington, KY.
Half of that stuff was in lots of phones before Android, so how did they "steal it from Android" ?

Video recording/tabbed browsing/multi tasking/front facing camera/video calling can't possibly be stolen from Android when they've been around as long as I've used computers!

Turn by turn navigation wasn't an Android first either. Ever heard of satellite navigation systems?

Quick launching of apps from lock screen uses a complete different method in iOS to Android. In iOS you can launch apps you've received a notification for; on Android you can put shortcuts for certain apps on the lock screen.

What is quick reply? You have always been able to hit "view" on a popup notification to jump straight to a message and reply in iOS.

In fact, out of your list that you clearly put NO thought into whatsoever, about the only two things that can be attributed to Android (as far as I know) are picture whilst taking a video and pull down notifications.

matttye, you're usually less "fanboyish" than this, so I'm surprised.

You say video recording/tabbed browsing/multi tasking/front facing camera/video calling have been around since you've been using computers. Right. But we're not talking about computers here...we're talking about cell phones. And cell phones DIDN'T have those things.

Turn-by-turn navigation...again, you're talking about a dedicated GPS unit. We're talking about it being included on a cell phone. It's a completely different argument.

The quick-launching of apps from the lock screens are two entirely different experiences. With the iPhone, you either have to have an active notification to be able to launch that particular app or you can launch the one app Apple allows to have a static icon on the lock screen...the camera. That's it. With something like the S3, you can specify up to 5 apps (of your choosing) and launch them from the lock screen until your heart is content. And that doesn't even include the option of using a custom lock screen launcher like WidgetLocker or Holo.

What is quick reply? Really??? It's a way to respond to a text message from within the app you're currently in (or even on the lock screen) without having to leave that app or even unlock the phone. If you've never used it, you have no clue what you're missing.

I'm sorry, but I'm completely disagree with you that this list isn't well thought out. It is. And if you'd used both platforms for a lengthy amount of time, you'd know that.
 

kasakka

macrumors 68020
Oct 25, 2008
2,389
1,079
matttye, you're usually less "fanboyish" than this, so I'm surprised.

You say video recording/tabbed browsing/multi tasking/front facing camera/video calling have been around since you've been using computers. Right. But we're not talking about computers here...we're talking about cell phones. And cell phones DIDN'T have those things.

Turn-by-turn navigation...again, you're talking about a dedicated GPS unit. We're talking about it being included on a cell phone. It's a completely different argument.

He's right though. None of those things are exactly innovations, more like obvious things to include eventually. Android phones just adapted them first and as something is considered a good usability pattern, it will start to appear in other platforms. I mean if you look at desktop software, tabs were not really seen that often in anything but control panels until web browsers started using them a lot. Nowadays many other types of apps rely on them.

This is pretty much the same as reading about a good idea and then implementing it in your work. People do this all the time and it's not stealing. To turn the tables around, you could say that Apple popularised a lot of things that we now take for granted in our smartphones.

Let's leave the software/hardware patents cluster**** to Apple/Samsung/Google lawyers to sort out.

Getting back on topic, Samsung's floating gestures seems like another poor interaction method for touch devices. The number one issue with any touch based device right now is the lack of physical feedback. Vibrating the device a little won't do, people want to feel the buttons etc. The tech already exists at least in prototype form but I still find it strange that despite being rumored for the iPad 3, it still hasn't surfaced anywhere. Afaik Nokia has had it in development for several years now too. That is the stuff all smartphone/tablet developers should be pushing to get to the market.
 

matttye

macrumors 601
Mar 25, 2009
4,957
32
Lincoln, England
matttye, you're usually less "fanboyish" than this, so I'm surprised.

You say video recording/tabbed browsing/multi tasking/front facing camera/video calling have been around since you've been using computers. Right. But we're not talking about computers here...we're talking about cell phones. And cell phones DIDN'T have those things.

Turn-by-turn navigation...again, you're talking about a dedicated GPS unit. We're talking about it being included on a cell phone. It's a completely different argument.

The quick-launching of apps from the lock screens are two entirely different experiences. With the iPhone, you either have to have an active notification to be able to launch that particular app or you can launch the one app Apple allows to have a static icon on the lock screen...the camera. That's it. With something like the S3, you can specify up to 5 apps (of your choosing) and launch them from the lock screen until your heart is content. And that doesn't even include the option of using a custom lock screen launcher like WidgetLocker or Holo.

What is quick reply? Really??? It's a way to respond to a text message from within the app you're currently in (or even on the lock screen) without having to leave that app or even unlock the phone. If you've never used it, you have no clue what you're missing.

I'm sorry, but I'm completely disagree with you that this list isn't well thought out. It is. And if you'd used both platforms for a lengthy amount of time, you'd know that.

This is one of the two phones I had before I got the 1st gen iPhone:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_z140-1142.php

Announced Q1 2005. It had video recording, front facing camera and video calling.

The other phone I had before I got the 1st gen iPhone:

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_w850-1563.php

Announced May 2006. It had video recording, video calling, front facing camera and multitasking.

I'm not even sure where the tabbed browsing thing comes from. As far as I can see Android phones only seem to support windows, like the iPhone, but Android tablets support on-screen tabs, like the iPad. It doesn't really matter which one had tabbed browsing first. Neither of them stole the idea from one another because their desktop browsers already had that feature. Do you really think they needed to steal the idea of tabbed browsing from anyone?

Smartphones are devices that attempt to converge many devices into one device. It is clear that turn by turn directions is the logical next step to including digital maps. Again, what makes you think they stole that idea from Google and not TomTom or somebody? Do you really think Apple would say "Oh no, we can't possibly add that feature because it only exists on satellite navigation devices."

You just admitted the quick launching apps feature is completely different in iOS, so I need not say anything more about that.

The iPhone doesn't have a quick reply feature other than to click "View" on the popup notification, which it has had since it first came out, so I don't know how they could possibly have stolen that from Android?

Your post had a clear lack of thought too. What a waste of my time this is. Incoherent drivel being spouted by everybody.
 

TheHateMachine

macrumors 6502a
Sep 18, 2012
846
1,354
Judging by the first couple of posts on this thread you can really tell that this thread got moved and was originally somewhere else. I can almost go back in time and hear the spittle smacking their monitors.
 

stroked

Suspended
May 3, 2010
555
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This is one of the two phones I had before I got the 1st gen iPhone:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_z140-1142.php

Announced Q1 2005. It had video recording, front facing camera and video calling.

The other phone I had before I got the 1st gen iPhone:

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_w850-1563.php

Announced May 2006. It had video recording, video calling, front facing camera and multitasking.

I'm not even sure where the tabbed browsing thing comes from. As far as I can see Android phones only seem to support windows, like the iPhone, but Android tablets support on-screen tabs, like the iPad. It doesn't really matter which one had tabbed browsing first. Neither of them stole the idea from one another because their desktop browsers already had that feature. Do you really think they needed to steal the idea of tabbed browsing from anyone?

Smartphones are devices that attempt to converge many devices into one device. It is clear that turn by turn directions is the logical next step to including digital maps. Again, what makes you think they stole that idea from Google and not TomTom or somebody? Do you really think Apple would say "Oh no, we can't possibly add that feature because it only exists on satellite navigation devices."

You just admitted the quick launching apps feature is completely different in iOS, so I need not say anything more about that.

The iPhone doesn't have a quick reply feature other than to click "View" on the popup notification, which it has had since it first came out, so I don't know how they could possibly have stolen that from Android?

Your post had a clear lack of thought too. What a waste of my time this is. Incoherent drivel being spouted by everybody.

This was a good post, until the last paragraph.
 

tech4all

macrumors 68040
Jun 13, 2004
3,399
489
NorCal
Lol I highly doubt floating gestures or flexible screen.

All it will have is faster processor. Better camera. Better display... Brace yourselves.....are you sitting down??

Wireless charging.

Lol big whoop.

Sounds like an typical iPhone update.

If he hadn't called me a fanboy when I really haven't been anything of the sort in this thread, I wouldn't have posted that last bit.

Fanboy!

:p

And your reply to will be:

matttye said:
Your post had a clear lack of thought too. What a waste of my time this is. Incoherent drivel being spouted by everybody.

That's a joke btw. Don't take being called a fanboy so seriously. All forums got 'em.
 

matttye

macrumors 601
Mar 25, 2009
4,957
32
Lincoln, England
Sounds like an typical iPhone update.



Fanboy!

:p

And your reply to will be:



That's a joke btw. Don't take being called a fanboy so seriously. All forums got 'em.

I wouldn't take it seriously if I did anything to warrant being called it. I simply responded to the guy's stupid list of apparently stolen features from Android and pointed out how ridiculous they were. :p
 

Dmaynard83

macrumors 6502a
Jul 16, 2012
825
66
Sounds like an typical iPhone update.



Fanboy!

:p

And your reply to will be:



That's a joke btw. Don't take being called a fanboy so seriously. All forums got 'em.

The last update had LTE. seems significant to me.

The 4s had Siri. Seems like a better upgrade than wireless charging.
 

ReanimationN

macrumors 6502a
Sep 7, 2011
724
0
Australia
How would this work without a stylus? If floating gestures worked with fingers as well as the stylus, you'd have to consciously hold your fingers away from the screen when you don't want things popping up while looking at something, or activating gestures you don't mean to use. The Note 2's implementation works as it's the stylus that activates floating gestures, fingers don't activate them.

It's a nice idea if it will work frustration free.
 

KentuckyHouse

macrumors 68030
Jan 29, 2010
2,723
998
Lexington, KY.
If he hadn't called me a fanboy when I really haven't been anything of the sort in this thread, I wouldn't have posted that last bit.

I agree...good post until you started throwing the insults. Congrats for keeping it civil.

BTW, I didn't call you a fanboy...I said you usually aren't this "fanboyish". Take that how you will, but sometimes a reaction tells one everything they need to know.

Anyway...good day to you, sir.
 

matttye

macrumors 601
Mar 25, 2009
4,957
32
Lincoln, England
I agree...good post until you started throwing the insults. Congrats for keeping it civil.

BTW, I didn't call you a fanboy...I said you usually aren't this "fanboyish". Take that how you will, but sometimes a reaction tells one everything they need to know.

Anyway...good day to you, sir.

Ignore all of my points why don't you ;)

I've yet to see any reason from you why I'm a fanboy.
 
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