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Gaming on the Santa Rosa MacBook X3100 (Not Pro)

The Red Wolf said:
I have a MacBook Pro and a BlackBook. I wasn't comparing RAM.
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I never said anything about RAM.

The Red Wolf said:
My Custom Cube has a custom SLi GeForce4 Ti 4800 from two MMD machines. It works in twin AGP slots at 8X each. 16 Pipelines. Pixelshader 2.0. It gets kicked in the arse by my X3100.
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You know why? Because X3100 is working with a much faster CPU (Core 2 Duo).

The Red Wolf said:
Games aren't more fun on a MacBook?

Ever burn yourself with an AlBook?

Games are certainly cooler with a MacBook.

If cooler is less hot and I don't burn my thighs (Yes, I wear skirts and play with my MacBook but not with my MacBook Pro, aluminum is hot) it's more fun. Better design... We need Carbon Fiber now!
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If "more fun" means less hot to you, then :rolleyes:

By your words, playing a game at 10 FPS with lowest possible settings is more fun than playing the same game with maximum graphics at 50 FPS? Meh...

The Red Wolf said:
Wii is fun because it's cool.

PS3 is fun because it's cool.

Wii is cheap and PS3 is not cheep.
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Umm... does this have anything to do with my post?

The Red Wolf said:
...the X3100 blows the 9200 GPU out of the water. Period. It's clocked like an old X550 or X600 ATI card or an nVidia GeFoece 5700. ::just sighs::
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Again, why mention 9200? I never said anything about it.

X3100 is probably clocked like X550 or X600 Radeon, but it performs worse. Even last rev. iMac G5 (with X600 and a MUCH slower G5 CPU) runs games faster than MacBooks, however it is game-specific:

eXan said:
Well, its very game-specific. If the game is much more CPU-bound, it runs faster on MacBook (for example my MacBook (GAM950) runs KOTOR noticably faster than my iMac G5 2 GHz with Radeon 9600 - on maximum graphics settings, however some graphical features are unsupported/buggy like grass or frame buffer effects)
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The Red Wolf said:
Read my post, then criticize me.
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I can tell yo the same.
 
Ummm... about the last generation iMac G5 with X600 running games better, I personally own both, and the specs are in my signature, I really do not notice a difference running any of my games:

Age of Empires 2: Mac Edition, on my old core duo MacBook ran just as good as my iMac G5, now it won't run due to some Mac OS X driver issues, but I expect an update to fix this.

EverQuest: Mac Edition runs great on both, don't notice a difference.

Age of Empires 3: Mac Edition, both run great on medium settings.

The only reason I use the iMac mostly for games is because of the screen size, but otherwise both run the games great and I expect AOE 2 to work once an update comes out for the graphics just like how the MBP got nvidia driver updates.
 
TSE said:
Ummm... about the last generation iMac G5 with X600 running games better, I personally own both, and the specs are in my signature, I really do not notice a difference running any of my games:

Age of Empires 2: Mac Edition, on my old core duo MacBook ran just as good as my iMac G5, now it won't run due to some Mac OS X driver issues, but I expect an update to fix this.

EverQuest: Mac Edition runs great on both, don't notice a difference.

Age of Empires 3: Mac Edition, both run great on medium settings.

The only reason I use the iMac mostly for games is because of the screen size, but otherwise both run the games great and I expect AOE 2 to work once an update comes out for the graphics just like how the MBP got nvidia driver updates.
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Its great that you have both, but can you try games that aren't that old?

Thx :D
 
VRAM *is* RAM

eXan said:
...Give GeForce 4 Ti 2 GBs of VRAM and it would still be much, MUCH slower than Radeon X1900 with 128 MB (if there was one) or 256 MB. VRAM is just a bonus - a rather small one...
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Your words... VRAM sounds like RAM to me... But you didn't say RAM at all... Nope, no VRAM comment what so ever.


I get 38FPS in WoW with everything turned on and Maxed out... Where did I get 10FPS in WoW on minimum?

The GeForce 4 Ti doesn't suppport even pixel shader 2. And a Dual processor Dual Core G4 at 2.0 GHz (Yes, that is four cores) is faster than a 2.8GHz Duo, I have the benchmarks to prove it. The video card is from 2001, it cannot compare, even in SLi to the GMA X3100 because of outdated technology... I build systems for a living from the hardware engineering standpoint. I know what I'm talking about.
 
38FPS Maxed out with everything on with the GMAX3100. Much more fun that 15FPS with everything turned off and minimum settings on my MacMini Rev A. which by the way happens to have what sort of GPU? A 9200 with 32MB RAM! That is why I mentioned it.

It is more fun to play on the MacBook with the GMA X3100 that on the Rev A. MacMini which has a video card and is not integrated. Also another poster stated the 9200 was a better video solution than the new MacBook's setup, it simply isn't true. The G5 iMac benches in video slower. I tested this at Apple HQ in Cupertino in the labs... I'm a developer and have access so older machines are not a problem for me to test on... What does it have to do with your post? Your information is simply wrong based on bias and you don't own a Black MacBook and game on it do you? Loose the attitude eXan, you're not the end all of gaming on the Mac Platform...

eXan said:
I never said anything about RAM.

You know why? Because X3100 is working with a much faster CPU (Core 2 Duo).

If "more fun" means less hot to you, then :rolleyes:

By your words, playing a game at 10 FPS with lowest possible settings is more fun than playing the same game with maximum graphics at 50 FPS? Meh...

Umm... does this have anything to do with my post?

Again, why mention 9200? I never said anything about it.

X3100 is probably clocked like X550 or X600 Radeon, but it performs worse. Even last rev. iMac G5 (with X600 and a MUCH slower G5 CPU) runs games faster than MacBooks, however it is game-specific:

I can tell yo the same.
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:/ yet you have completely ignored my comments on your post. Only see what you like to see, huh?

Anyway, this discussion is pointless. I should have foreseen this and didn't post anything...
 
The Red Wolf said:
I have a MacBook Pro and a BlackBook. I wasn't comparing RAM. My Custom Cube has a custom SLi GeForce4 Ti 4800 from two MMD machines. It works in twin AGP slots at 8X each. 16 Pipelines. Pixelshader 2.0. It gets kicked in the arse by my X3100.

Games aren't more fun on a MacBook?

Ever burn yourself with an AlBook?

Games are certainly cooler with a MacBook.

If cooler is less hot and I don't burn my thighs (Yes, I wear skirts and play with my MacBook but not with my MacBook Pro, aluminum is hot) it's more fun. Better design... We need Carbon Fiber now!

Jayzyz...

Wii is fun because it's cool.

PS3 is fun because it's cool.

Wii is cheap and PS3 is not cheep.

Read my post, then criticize me. It wasn't about RAM. And the X3100 blows the 9200 GPU out of the water. Period. It's clocked like an old X550 or X600 ATI card or an nVidia GeFoece 5700. ::just sighs::
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i hope i am not too far off topic, but how are you running a custom SLi setup? ive just never seen dual agp
 
Well on topic again, I have only tested Warcraft III so far (as I love it), and then specificly Dota (if that means anything to you). It runs super beautifully, not that it's a new game or anything, but still, it gave my 'gaming' pc in that day and age a run for its money, so I was scared the SR MB (I have the new one) wouldn't run it or would lag in big battles. No such problems at all, and as an RTS fan I can only be happy about that! :)

I'm praying to the Gods on my knees that it will run Starcraft 2 properly, that's all I'm asking for, but then again, SC2 might be ready in 2010 at the pace it's going so then again...

I'm more interested in the performance of games like CS:S and more recently Team Fortress 2! If anyone has any tests or experiences running those (TF2 mostly) that'd be awesome to share!
 
jamesi said:
i hope i am not too far off topic, but how are you running a custom SLi setup? ive just never seen dual agp
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takao said:
even more interesting would be how the geforce 4800 from 2002 can support the SLI introduced in 2004 ...
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haha, what about those 2 "dual-core" G4s he keeps talking about? ^^

As far as I know there were NO shipping dual-core G4 CPUs. Let alone versions that worked in 2-CPU setup :rolleyes:
 
GTA's On The GMA X3100

Ok i have been running GTA Vice City on my MacBook thats got the GMA X3100 and it works fine But when i come to run GTA San Andreas it loads up to the RockStar screen then go's off =S But my friends got a MacBook with a GMA 950 and San Andreas works fine WHY THATS ? Is it drivers or what?

Im Lost On This One lol

Games That Work On My GMA X3100

GTA III = 100% Fine
GTA Vice City = 100% Fine
Tomb Raider Anniversary = 90% Fine just one or two things now and then but nothing to make you stop playing :D
Postal 2 = 85% Works fine its just well your making hell on earth and theres loads of fire and things going on but i mean LOADS lol
 
RyanSmelliott said:
Ok i have been running GTA Vice City on my MacBook thats got the GMA X3100 and it works fine But when i come to run GTA San Andreas it loads up to the RockStar screen then go's off =S But my friends got a MacBook with a GMA 950 and San Andreas works fine WHY THATS ? Is it drivers or what?

Im Lost On This One lol

Games That Work On My GMA X3100

GTA III = 100% Fine
GTA Vice City = 100% Fine
Tomb Raider Anniversary = 90% Fine just one or two things now and then but nothing to make you stop playing :D
Postal 2 = 85% Works fine its just well your making hell on earth and theres loads of fire and things going on but i mean LOADS lol
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Its definitely a driver issue because SA works on my GMA950 MacBook.
 
x3100 Drivers?

Yep same as my friend he has the 950 and works fine :(
so when will there be a driver update any time soon?
i wanna start playing Need For Speed Most Wanted yet another that works on the 950 but not the 3100 :( guttted
 
A Cool Game I Found :D

i found a cool FREE online game its not NEXT GEN shall we say lol but its a very fun cool 1st person shut em up :D and works GRATE on mac book


OpenArena is an open source violent first person shooter

www.openarena.ws

Also

Nexuiz is a first-person shooter which started as a Quake modification in the summer of 2001. [GPL source code and data] (Windows, Linux, OS X)

www.alientrap.org/nexuiz ( this works fine in normal settings and 1280 x 800 )
 
Here's some games I've been told of for the MacBook. Penumbra is the only one I have first hand experience with.

* Half Life 2 demo runs but may crash during autosaves. (PC via Bootcamp- Hey it's a demo, give it a shot.)
* Morrowind runs (PC via Bootcamp)
* Penumbra: Overture- runs on MacBooks with x3100 chipset or newer. Shaders must be adjusted or scenes are very washed out. Older MacBooks won't run this game.
* Warhammer 40,000 Dawn of War runs ok. (PC via Bootcamp)
* Medieval Total War 2 does not run.
 
Hey I see people in this thread talking about updating the drivers for the mac books GMA X3100 graphics.

I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction on how to do this please.

I looked on the Intel site but didn't find anything that seemed to be an update.

Please help if you can. Thanks. Andy.
 
Most casual games like Mystery Case Files: Madam Fate should run on the MacBook. (Madam Fate runs just fine on my wife's MacBook). Fortunately most of these type of games come with free demos to try out.
 
Will we see a big performance increase in graphics capabilities with the introduction of Montevina and the x4500 chip? I hear it is 3x the performance, is this true? I have done a little reading and the only differences i can see are slightly faster clock speed, 10 shaders and hd.
 
28monkeys said:
can the blackbook runs the elder scroll oblivion?

if it can but slow, will it helps if i upgrade to 4GB ram.
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I'm thinking the MacBook (black or white) would *not* run Elder Scrolls 4 Oblivion. There's a better chance it might run Elder Scrolls 3 Morrowind (via Bootcamp) but it would be nice to find someone who has run (either) game before investing in it unless you can find it cheap.
 
Well i dont know about all this mac book gaming stuff its getting on me tits lol

so im thinking making PC :D lol just for gaming, keeping my Mac Book cos i use it to do my Music on WwwMySpace.Com/VenomAndApathy (if you wanna look like lol) cos mac's cant be beat for doing music, but you can make a PC with a top end Gaming Card for like £300 easy :D but yerr
Processor: AMD AM2 Athlon X2 4400 64 Bit
Hard Drive: 250GB, SATA2 300-7200rpm
Memory:2GB DDR2 RAM
Graphics:GeForce 9600GT 512MB XT
That plays crysis and call of duty 4 on hight settings easy :D but still nothing on a mac pro lol only if i was rich

but all im tying to say in this is for £300 (witch is the price of a PS3 or 360)
you can have a good pc to play pc games on and use your mac book for what ever you do use your mac book for lol

PS
dont reply to me saying this is a mac forum and this is off the point to everything cos i know it is im just saying what i think and what im going to do thats all :D
 
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