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Originally posted by Squire
Yeah, with the exception of one iBook model, I think. I seem to recall seeing a "CD-ROM" iBook up until early last year.

Squire

yes, i have one of those cd only iBooks. This doesnt really matter, since my hard drive doesnt have enough space for 2.3 GB of loops
 
Mac-to-Mac Connection

My brother who is an avid musician and extremely excited about GarageBand has an iMac DV 600MHz with a CD-RW drive in it. He meets the minimum requirements for the software so he would like to try it out but he fits into the same DVD dilemma a lot of people are falling into. So, I'm going to attempt a Mac-to-Mac connection with a piece of crossover cable to do the install. At first I was going to hook into his network but I think the direct connection will be faster. We have used a similar set-up before and it has worked just fine. Especially if Apple has this set up as a package on the DVD. All I should have to do then is simply copy the package to his computer and run the install.
 
Ok i dont have a second Mac

but can i just get the iLife Pack and put the dvd in windows and network and drag over the files needed. install that way
bloody hope so i want to play ..

I have a lot of audio software but never seen anything this cheap for this sort of thing so its a steal.
 
the base model ibook was a cdrom from its release at 500mz all the way up to 900mz, until the ibook g4 came in october. i'd hate to be someone who bought a 900mz ibook cdrom. too bad you cant upgrade either, once its installed.
 
Re: Ok i dont have a second Mac

Originally posted by Sabenth
but can i just get the iLife Pack and put the dvd in windows and network and drag over the files needed. install that way
bloody hope so i want to play ..

Not sure if this would definitely work but it sounds like a good way to attempt it. Then again, I'm not even positive my method will work but I figure it's worth a shot because it has worked in the past.
 
you could always use firewire disc mode. That should be even faster than ethernet cross over, unless you're doing gigabit.
 
Originally posted by Powerbook G5
Wouldn't that add to the cost if they did that? Besides, that would render including iDVD as an all in one suite kind of useless.

Hmmm, a blank DVD is about 5 bucks. Since it'll be massed-produced I'd say closer to 2 bucks. It wouldn't be highly expensive.
 
Originally posted by applekid
Hmmm, a blank DVD is about 5 bucks. Since it'll be massed-produced I'd say closer to 2 bucks. It wouldn't be highly expensive.

Remember, the DVD-equipped machines are generally faster and, therefore, better able to perform with the more advanced apps. Also, I would totally agree with your comment if it were a more expensive package but at $49...

Squire
 
Originally posted by Squire
Remember, the DVD-equipped machines are generally faster and, therefore, better able to perform with the more advanced apps. Also, I would totally agree with your comment if it were a more expensive package but at $49...

Squire

I don´t think Apple are trying to earn money on this package. They are most definitely allready at a loss from the modelling of the instruments (if the models are any good - time will show.)

They will earn money on the $99 upgrade package, but I don´t think they´ll earn anything before.
 
Originally posted by Poff
I don? think Apple are trying to earn money on this package. They are most definitely allready at a loss from the modelling of the instruments (if the models are any good - time will show.)

They will earn money on the $99 upgrade package, but I don? think they?l earn anything before.

Yeah, that was supposed to be my point. ;)

They'd be more apt to throw in some extra CDs if it were a big money-making application. I don't think this is. I think they're trying to get a lot of switchers with this thing.

What I don't understand is why they didn't just sell GarageBand as an extra application and keep giving the free updates to iPhoto and iMovie. That would keep everyone happy. I think, from a business perspective, they wanted a good reason to start charging for iLife. As corny as it sounds, I think, for some reason, Apple wants people to make music. In addition, GarageBand is going to prompt a lot of people to switch. Maybe that's it: get all Mac users making music and showing PC users how cool and easy it is, therefore spurring a switching movement.

I'm rambling.

Squire
 
Originally posted by applekid
Apple should've had a multi-CD install and a DVD install in one package.

Now I just need some money from my family to get a pre-order for iLife and I'll be in good hands :D

I just ordered iLife '04 through Apple's up-to-date program in Japan. On page 2 of the iLife Up-To-Date Program application form, it says that one or more CDs will also be included in the package.

Quote:

?????????
iLife??????CD?iLife??????DVD?

(translated):

Package Contents
iLife install CD, iLife install DVD, etc.

Since Japanese doesn't have plural forms, it's not clear whether the CD-based installation media is a single CD that somehow supplements the DVD or is multiple CDs that contain the entire iLife installation files. I guess we'll find out on the 16th.

The US version of the iLife UTD application, by the way, doesn't list the contents of the package.
 
Originally posted by applekid
Hmmm, a blank DVD is about 5 bucks. Since it'll be massed-produced I'd say closer to 2 bucks. It wouldn't be highly expensive.

A blank DVD is a lot cheaper than $5 :) Remember they don't burn DVDs they stamp 'em. They don't use DVD-Rs, they use DVDs.
 
Originally posted by Photorun
The eMac was still sold as a CD ROM up until this fall, I think that's the winner for how recent it was Apple sold non DVD reading computers.

Unless you count the XServe, which still comes with CD-ROMs standard. Also, I believe the eMac can still be purchased with just a CD-ROM drive by educational customers.

I do think there are a whole lot of fairly recent (by non-macgeek standards) macs out there that can't read DVDs, but they are probably the same ones that are too slow for garage band to work well. Too bad those people can't download the new version of iPhoto that they could use...
 
Originally posted by irmongoose
Think of it this way: if you don't have a Mac with a DVD drive, it's probably too old to run GarageBand well anyways.

An 800Mhz G4 iBook is too old?

Originally posted by Nermal
Do Apple even sell systems anymore that can't read DVDs?

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Previous iLife Install Discs?

I could just be making this up, but I seem to remember two iLife discs: one for iPhoto + iTunes + iMovie, and the other with all four apps (namely, iDVD).

I'd almost bet that Apple will include one DVD with all five iLife '04 apps, and one CD with just iPhoto + iTunes + iMovie (since their system requirements explicitly state that a DVD-ROM drive is required to install GarageBand and iDVD).
 
Re: Previous iLife Install Discs?

You're absolutely right. There were two discs in the box. One that had everything but iDVD on a CD and then the bundle with iDVD on a DVD.


Originally posted by PaisanoMan
I could just be making this up, but I seem to remember two iLife discs: one for iPhoto + iTunes + iMovie, and the other with all four apps (namely, iDVD).

I'd almost bet that Apple will include one DVD with all five iLife '04 apps, and one CD with just iPhoto + iTunes + iMovie (since their system requirements explicitly state that a DVD-ROM drive is required to install GarageBand and iDVD).
 
Every macintosh, back to the Beige G3's, can be upgraded to read DVD data disks. While it might be economically silly on some of the older machines, it can be done. For machines with FireWire, it's probably more sensible to get an external, but all of them, portables included, can be upgraded to DVD.
 
Originally posted by IndyGopher
Every macintosh, back to the Beige G3's, can be upgraded to read DVD data disks. While it might be economically silly on some of the older machines, it can be done. For machines with FireWire, it's probably more sensible to get an external, but all of them, portables included, can be upgraded to DVD.

Well that statement is almost true, I have a Performa 6400 with a DVD drive. It cannot Play DVD's but I can look at the contents. And yes the drive is SCSI. I also have a DVD-RAM drive in my broken B&W. BUT for You that have a freind with a DVD drive Mac You can install Garage Band: Network the DVD Computer to the non dvd rom computer and share the DVD Rom, know go to the non DVD Rom and open disk copy and drag the contents of Garageband into Disk Copy and create a Garageband Disk image and install from that. I don't know if this will work or not but is worth a try Good Luck
 
iLife on LaCie

This appears to be a freeform iLife install kind of thread, so here is my issue: I am unable to install iLife on my new external LaCie hard drive after installing 10.2.8 on it and using it as my startup volume. "Install" begins to start with a generic application icon, then vanishes without explanation after a few seconds. Any thoughts?
 
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The circle denoting the iBook with a Cd-rom...come on....he obviously meant computers that cannot be EQUIPPED with a DVD drive...
Or computers that would be too expensive to upgrade anyway..
 
Installing externally

There may be no greater joy than the ability to answer your own Mac forum question.

I did a search for "install" and found no Installer applications on my external hard drive (which I am using as my startup), but two Installer applications in the Utilities folder on my internal hard drive. I trashed the 9-03 version with the generic icon, and after that, iLife installed beautifully (so far) with the 12-02 version.

I'm still not sure why Installer never installed onto my external hard drive in the first place.
 
My 11 month old iBook has a CDROM but meets all the other requirements for GarageBand. Workaround: Make an image of the iLife DVD on another Mac and firewire it over to the iBook. It installs great from the hard drive.
 
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