Gartner: Android passes iOS to become the most popular tablet platform

[vomhorizon]

I know it had nothing to do with screen supplies in the exact same way you know it had everything to do with screen supplies.

So apple could not get enough retina ipad minis out of the door (despite of having lowered the display specs ) in Q4 2013, yet they would have had no trouble meeting a similar demand in Q4 2012?

Apple did a low-key launch of the iPad Mini Retina on November 12 amid analyst commentary and reports that the displays were in short supply.
Apple's CEO Tim Cook was cautious about supply of the Mini Retina during Apple's fourth-quarter earnings conference call.
"It's unclear whether we'll have enough for the quarter or not," Cook said.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-5...ipad-mini-retina-still-not-in-carrier-stores/

Your logic has absolutely no merit, Apple has had trouble with its suppliers when it comes to sourcing the display solution in the numbers it requires..Supply is only now catching up to the demand. This is a full 12-14 months after the 1st gen mini was launched and went on sale..Apple has a huge display requirement particularly in the high spec retina category for all applications and its no secret that suppliers have a tough time ramping up to the ever increasing demand that apple generates.

If apple's ambitions (based on their demand analysis) had been watered down with the mini, they may have been able to pull of a retina mini after grossly reducing the number produced, delaying the ramp up and lowering production volumes from other retina display contracts. Would this have been a smart thing to do? Given that the 1st gen mini ended up outselling the larger ipad in many markets.

 

[Lloydbm41]

So apple could not get enough retina ipad minis out of the door (despite of having lowered the display specs ) in Q4 2013, yet they would have had no trouble meeting a similar demand in Q4 2012?

Apple did a low-key launch of the iPad Mini Retina on November 12 amid analyst commentary and reports that the displays were in short supply.
Apple's CEO Tim Cook was cautious about supply of the Mini Retina during Apple's fourth-quarter earnings conference call.
"It's unclear whether we'll have enough for the quarter or not," Cook said.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-5...ipad-mini-retina-still-not-in-carrier-stores/

Your logic has absolutely no merit, Apple has had trouble with its suppliers when it comes to sourcing the display solution in the numbers it requires..Supply is only now catching up to the demand. This is a full 12-14 months after the 1st gen mini was launched and went on sale..Apple has a huge display requirement particularly in the high spec retina category for all applications and its no secret that suppliers have a tough time ramping up to the ever increasing demand that apple generates.

I believe it had more to do with the fact that Apple hadn't made deals to stockpile 7.9" sized displays from sources ahead of time (like with the 9.7" iPads) and that Apple attempted to go with another company outside of Samsung for the displays (cough *Sharp* cough) and the yield rate was horrible, delaying the launch of the iPad Mini retina until 2013 and forcing Apple to go hat in hand back to Samsung.

Ergo, had very little to do with 'ramping up', and more to do with Apple screwing up on a couple of fronts. The most serious was trying to go with a display supplier that couldn't meet QA.

 

[vomhorizon]

I believe it had more to do with the fact that Apple could not get 7.9" displays because unlike with the 9.7" displays on the large iPads, Apple hadn't made deals to stockpile them from the source. Add to that, Apple attempted to go with another company outside of Samsung for the displays (cough *Sharp* cough) and the yield rate was horrible, delaying the launch of the iPad Mini retina until 2013 and forcing Apple to go hat in hand back to Samsung.

Ergo, had very little to do with 'ramping up', and more to do with Apple screwing up and a couple of fronts. The most serious was trying to go with a display supplier that couldn't meet QA.

Hence "supply" issues and not a deliberate attempt to increase profit margins by not going in for a display due to cost reasons even if one was readily available...

I believe sharp still has work on the current gen iPad family...I think apple may have to consider buying into one of these larger display companies (and not just having partners to put equity down) to get a better handle on supply and future projects..

 

[Lloydbm41]

Hence "supply" issues and not a deliberate attempt to increase profit margins by not going in for a display due to cost reasons even if one was readily available...

I believe sharp still has work on the current gen iPad family...I think apple may have to consider buying into one of these larger display companies to get a better handle on supply and future projects..

It is one thing to not be able to meet demand because you simply can't produce enough product on the assembly line. It is quite another to not meet demand because you screwed up. One is out of your control, the other clearly is not.

And yes, Sharp does produce displays, but in very low quantities compared to Samsung, LG, etc...

 

[vomhorizon]

Thats exactly what i am saying. The problem was in the supply side, perhaps because apple miscalculated its reach or the ability of its suppliers to effectively provide a solution as it tried to move away from Samsung. It was a logistical issue for whatever reason not a deliberate attempt by apple to limit the mini so that it didnt get a retina display..

 

[adnbek]

Android encompasses many brands and models. Here's a breakdown by manufacturer to make it a bit more clear. Apple still dominates until you lump all the numerous different manufacturers together to get that 62% figure.

Same can be said for phones if broken down by manufacturer and model. But since Android runs on almost everything else, Android will always have the numerical advantage when lumped together.

 

[Gav2k]

These studies have always on my eyes been null and void.

Apple you get device plus os

Android is just an os on many devices.

Comparing samsung to apple sales wise would be an honest comparison tho that said samsung pack there sales fugues out ...

Apple give sales figures vs samsungs units shipped. Not sales. Go figure!

 

[sc4rf4c3]

Apple give sales figures vs samsungs units shipped. Not sales. Go figure!

Oh really? Go read this post.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1580695/

 

[Gav2k]

Oh really? Go read this post.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1580695/

Check there keynotes the generally quote 'activations' over sales

 

[sentinelsx]

Not surprising at all.

Did you see all those RCA tablets for $70 at Walmart? My parents bought 3 of those to send to relatives overseas.

Oh and did i mention those tablets were also out of stock so we had to go to different walmarts to get them? yeah.

I played with one as i bought one too as a cheap backup to my N7 2013 and the performance made me cringe, but to many people it is not going to make much of a difference. Some have even asked me why i "threw away my money" on an expensive $220 N7 when i could get a bigger tablet for just $70. Different strokes i guess.

 

[Menneisyys2]

Edit: There is one thing that I wished iOS 8 will have. That is the power to multitask a messaging app or web browsing app Because I reallly like how my note 3 can float an app on top of any full screen app running.

It's highly unlikely it'll have, unless there is a larger-screen Pro, where the lack of windowed multitasking would even be infuriatig.

Nevertheless, if you JB now (till you can), you can use VideoPane, which is just great for windowed video playback.