Geekbench Scores - Let's Get This Right

[Mac.World]

Engadget procured astounding battery results for the 5, just 10 minutes shy of the Razr Maxx's runtime. And the battery is relatively puny (1440 mAH compared to 2100 mAH of GS3). I imagine the Galaxy S3 battery claims are very exaggerated, as nobody has reported those sort of results.

Face it, the iPhone 5 really is a marvel of engineering.

The chip is, the rest of the phone is lacking in every department. And I'll believe battery life and benchmark scores when someone neutral, and not paid by one company or another to 'alter data favorably', puts out results.

All this nonsense about Geekbench, sunspider, alleged battery life of the iphone 5 is all crap. I know what a real world S3 provides in battery life (on 4g, not 3g) and it beats the iphone 4 by a mile. Manufacturer lab tests under ideal conditions and the real world are two different things. While I tend to believe Apple's numbers are probably closer to real world, than say Samsung's, they still won't be anywhere close to realworld use, especially when using LTE. Standby for massive complaints about battery life, black iphones chipping and scuffing on the edges, screen resolution issues and light bleed problems.

 

[zbarvian]

The chip is, the rest of the phone is lacking in every department. And I'll believe battery life and benchmark scores when someone neutral, and not paid by one company or another to 'alter data favorably', puts out results.

All this nonsense about Geekbench, sunspider, alleged battery life of the iphone 5 is all crap. I know what a real world S3 provides in battery life (on 4g, not 3g) and it beats the iphone 4 by a mile. Manufacturer lab tests under ideal conditions and the real world are two different things. While I tend to believe Apple's numbers are probably closer to real world, than say Samsung's, they still won't be anywhere close to realworld use, especially when using LTE. Standby for massive complaints about battery life, black iphones chipping and scuffing on the edges, screen resolution issues and light bleed problems.

All the reviews have indicated that the iPhone 5 has significantly better battery life than the 4S. And the iPhone 5 is the best all around smartphone you can buy, from a pure hardware perspective. It has the best build quality, (subjectively) good design and materials, is super thin, light, has one of the best cameras, (reportedly) good battery life, high quality display, comes in high storage capacities, equipped with good cellular and wireless connectivity, with a fast chipset, and unparalleled Apple support. No other phone on the market can check off all of those boxes. It isn't the best at some things, but it is pretty damn good at everything.

 

[digital.l0gic]

Engadget procured astounding battery results for the 5, just 10 minutes shy of the Razr Maxx's runtime. And the battery is relatively puny (1440 mAH compared to 2100 mAH of GS3). I imagine the Galaxy S3 battery claims are very exaggerated, as nobody has reported those sort of results.

Face it, the iPhone 5 really is a marvel of engineering.

I'm sorry, Engadget is far from a respected source when it comes to testing hardware. I will wait for Anandtech's review.

But as others have mentioned, you are comparing Apples to oranges..I mean GS3s. The GS3 has a much larger screen and higher definition display...it also has NFC and other features.Its a known fact that the screen is the biggest cause for battery drain. With a tiny 4.0 inch screen with fewer pixels to push, the Iphone does not have to work hard to keep the drain in check compared to GS3.

I for one will be glad with the 10+ hours of Full HD video playback the GS3 offers. And you know whats the most amazing thing about it? If the battery runs out it takes me only a few seconds to plop a new one in and Bang!...100% power. Good luck with all the massive bricks that some people attach to their Iphones in order to provide more juice.

Btw speaking about Engineering...you know whats good Engineering? making allowances for mistakes/faults that can happen in daily use.

The GS3(and most Android phones) shine in this regard.

They have replaceable battery. From an Engineering point of view this is a huge plus. Having the ability to instantly get 100% power(by swapping a battery in) is Excellent Engineering!.

The sames goes for Expandable storage. Another great Engineering example.

Polycarbonate instead of glass back? Excellent Engineering decision. Having Glass back on the 4s was the single most stupidest Engineering decision I've seen from a major manufacturer in recent times. Form over function is NOT engineering


You know what I have realized after reading the posts of Iphone users? You guys confuse Engineering with Aesthetics. They are entirely different things.


A glass bottle would have good Aesthetics but Crappy Engineering if it was to be used daily. A plastic bottle; on the other hand is an excellent Engineering choice for such use.

So yeah..please dont conflate Aesthetics with Engineering.

Oh and while you are at it, please enjoy the black bars while watching streaming video (Naturally you would be only able to watch 480p video(even if you have a higher pixel width as there is no 640p video resolution for streaming). While the Galaxy s3 folks will enjoy full 720p HD. 480p is so 2009.

All the reviews have indicated that the iPhone 5 has significantly better battery life than the 4S. And the iPhone 5 is the best all around smartphone you can buy, from a pure hardware perspective. It has the best build quality, (subjectively) good design and materials, is super thin, light, has one of the best cameras, (reportedly) good battery life, high quality display, comes in high storage capacities, equipped with good cellular and wireless connectivity, with a fast chipset, and unparalleled Apple support. No other phone on the market can check off all of those boxes. It isn't the best at some things, but it is pretty damn good at everything.

High Quality Display?
High Storage capacities?
Equipped with Good Cellular..? (Hint: Try searching for a restaurant on yelp while talking on the phone)


No other phone on the market can check off all of those boxes

 

[zbarvian]

I'm sorry, Engadget is far from a respected source when it comes to testing hardware. I will wait for Anandtech's review.

But as others have mentioned, you are comparing Apples to oranges..I mean GS3s. The GS3 has a much larger screen and higher definition display...it also has NFC and other features.Its a known fact that the screen is the biggest cause for battery drain. With a tiny 4.0 inch screen with fewer pixels to push, the Iphone does not have to work hard to keep the drain in check compared to GS3.

I for one will be glad with the 10+ hours of Full HD video playback the GS3 offers. And you know whats the most amazing thing about it? If the battery runs out it takes me only a few seconds to plop a new one in and Bang!...100% power. Good luck with all the massive bricks that some people attach to their Iphones in order to provide more juice.

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Btw speaking about Engineering...you know whats good Engineering? making allowances for mistakes/faults that can happen in daily use.

The GS3(and most Android phones) shine in this regard.

They have replaceable battery. From an Engineering point of view this is a huge plus. Having the ability to instantly get 100% power(by swapping a battery in) is Excellent Engineering!.

The sames goes for Expandable storage. Another great Engineering example.

Polycarbonate instead of glass back? Excellent Engineering decision. Having Glass back on the 4s was the single most stupidest Engineering decision I've seen from a major manufacturer in recent times. Form over function is NOT engineering


You know what I have realized after reading the posts of Iphone users? You guys confuse Engineering with Aesthetics. They are entirely different things.


A glass bottle would have good Aesthetics but Crappy Engineering if it was to be used daily. A plastic bottle; on the other hand is an excellent Engineering choice for such use.

So yeah..please dont conflate Aesthetics with Engineering.

Oh and while you are at it, please enjoy the black bars while watching streaming video (Naturally you would be only able to watch 480p video(even if you have a higher pixel width as there is no 640p video resolution for streaming). While the Galaxy s3 folks will enjoy full 720p HD. 480p is so 2009.





High Quality Display?
High Storage capacities?
Equipped with Good Cellular..? (Hint: Try searching for a restaurant on yelp while talking on the phone)


No other phone on the market can check off all of those boxes

The excuses Android fans are able to produce still amazes me. Like a preference for glossy plastic over high-precision, machined aluminum. And how 5 hours of web browsing time is a feature worth touting. That's quite horrid. I can admit to the perks of Android, but you guys will go to preposterous lengths to reject the iPhone.

As for those last three. The display uses next-generation technology (in-cell touch) and will display colors far more accurately. Your GS3 panel is marred by grossly over saturated colors and the Pentile subpixel configuration. 64 GB of storage on a phone is high. And I'm on AT&T, so I'll be doing voice and data simultaneously, thanks.

 

[lazard]

And I'm on AT&T, so I'll be doing voice and data simultaneously, thanks.

only 3G data while doing voice.

 

[zbarvian]

only 3G data while doing voice.

Is that really supposed to be a flaw? I'm on the phone for about 10 minutes a day and have NEVER tried to browse the Internet or use data while I'm on a call.

 

[Mrg02d]

The excuses Android fans are able to produce still amazes me. Like a preference for glossy plastic over high-precision, machined aluminum. And how 5 hours of web browsing time is a feature worth touting. That's quite horrid. I can admit to the perks of Android, but you guys will go to preposterous lengths to reject the iPhone.

As for those last three. The display uses next-generation technology (in-cell touch) and will display colors far more accurately. Your GS3 panel is marred by grossly over saturated colors and the Pentile subpixel configuration. 64 GB of storage on a phone is high. And I'm on AT&T, so I'll be doing voice and data simultaneously, thanks.

No live wallpaper, no widgets. Whats the use of a nice screen if there isnt anything to show it off? iOS is boring looking. It may work nice for your needs, but it looks boring.

My GS3 runs great with both LWP and widgets.

 

[3bs]

No live wallpaper, no widgets. Whats the use of a nice screen if there isnt anything to show it off? iOS is boring looking. It may work nice for your needs, but it looks boring.

My GS3 runs great with both LWP and widgets.

The home screen isn't the only thing you see on your phones screen you know but yeah iOS is very very boring

I don't know much about screen technology and specs but I love the screen on my GS3 be it over saturated or having less pixels than the iPhone.

 

[Jb07]

Like a preference for glossy plastic over high-precision, machined aluminum.

As for those last three. The display uses next-generation technology (in-cell touch) and will display colors far more accurately. Your GS3 panel is marred by grossly over saturated colors and the Pentile subpixel configuration. 64 GB of storage on a phone is high. And I'm on AT&T, so I'll be doing voice and data simultaneously, thanks.

You sound like an Apple Advertisement.

 

[Mac.World]

The excuses Android fans are able to produce still amazes me. Like a preference for glossy plastic over high-precision, machined aluminum. And how 5 hours of web browsing time is a feature worth touting. That's quite horrid. I can admit to the perks of Android, but you guys will go to preposterous lengths to reject the iPhone.

As for those last three. The display uses next-generation technology (in-cell touch) and will display colors far more accurately. Your GS3 panel is marred by grossly over saturated colors and the Pentile subpixel configuration. 64 GB of storage on a phone is high. And I'm on AT&T, so I'll be doing voice and data simultaneously, thanks.

So are you going to leave your phone naked or put a cover on it. If you leave it naked, prepare for dents and scratches. If you put a plastic cover on it, your point is now invalid. Either way, you lose.
As for 5 hours of web browsing, I don't think you understood what was meant. I am pretty sure they meant it's 5 hours of actual onscreen time (while using the phone) and screen brightness all the way up. You won't see an iphone get anywhere close to that. Now, I can get 48 hours with light use, and people will post ridiculous numbers like that, but realistic numbers are better. And if I have my brightness at 100%, which 7 always do on every phone I own, I will get around 4.5 hours of actual use, with real multitasking. That is downloading torrents, sending emails, working on Word docs, playing games and using google wallet and gps navigation. No video watching. When you get your phone and have broke in your battery properly, try doing this one day. You will find out what your battery is really capable of. Oh yeah, and when I get down to 1%, I just pop another battery in and instantly have 100% again.

Lastly, 64gb is enough for a phone, however I have 80gb. But let's look at the price difference.
S3 is $550 for the 16gb phone and $50 for another 64gb sd card, which of course can be used with your Android tablet and home pc or laptop.
Iphone 5 is $900 for the 64gb version. $900! Anyone that pays 900 bucks for a phone needs to have their head examined, especially for something lacking as much as the iphone 5 does. Seriously, you can just about buy a Macbook Air for that!

Yes, these are off contract prices, but even on contract, you are paying nearly $150 more to get 64gb, while I enjoy 80gb. And a better phone.

 

[zbarvian]

So are you going to leave your phone naked or put a cover on it. If you leave it naked, prepare for dents and scratches. If you put a plastic cover on it, your point is now invalid. Either way, you lose.
As for 5 hours of web browsing, I don't think you understood what was meant. I am pretty sure they meant it's 5 hours of actual onscreen time (while using the phone) and screen brightness all the way up. You won't see an iphone get anywhere close to that. Now, I can get 48 hours with light use, and people will post ridiculous numbers like that, but realistic numbers are better. And if I have my brightness at 100%, which 7 always do on every phone I own, I will get around 4.5 hours of actual use, with real multitasking. That is downloading torrents, sending emails, working on Word docs, playing games and using google wallet and gps navigation. No video watching. When you get your phone and have broke in your battery properly, try doing this one day. You will find out what your battery is really capable of. Oh yeah, and when I get down to 1%, I just pop another battery in and instantly have 100% again.

Lastly, 64gb is enough for a phone, however I have 80gb. But let's look at the price difference.
S3 is $550 for the 16gb phone and $50 for another 64gb sd card, which of course can be used with your Android tablet and home pc or laptop.
Iphone 5 is $900 for the 64gb version. $900! Anyone that pays 900 bucks for a phone needs to have their head examined, especially for something lacking as much as the iphone 5 does. Seriously, you can just about buy a Macbook Air for that!

Yes, these are off contract prices, but even on contract, you are paying nearly $150 more to get 64gb, while I enjoy 80gb. And a better phone.

iPhone 5 is the better phone. Sorry you can't see it. And the battery life on this thing is insane, 5 hours of constant use is pathetic.

I won't buy a case because I've never scratched or shattered my iPhone 4, and this is proving to be far more resilient than the 4 and even the GS3. Just concede that the iPhone is the better built phone already.

 

[oBMTo]

iPhone 5 is the better phone. Sorry you can't see it. And the battery life on this thing is insane, 5 hours of constant use is pathetic.

I won't buy a case because I've never scratched or shattered my iPhone 4, and this is proving to be far more resilient than the 4 and even the GS3. Just concede that the iPhone is the better built phone already.

Don't worry about scratching your iPhone 5. It's probably already prescratched/predented for you! Bwhahahahahaha

 

[Mac.World]

iPhone 5 is the better phone. Sorry you can't see it. And the battery life on this thing is insane, 5 hours of constant use is pathetic.

I won't buy a case because I've never scratched or shattered my iPhone 4, and this is proving to be far more resilient than the 4 and even the GS3. Just concede that the iPhone is the better built phone already.

Far more resilient? Uh, if you just bought one then you've only had it a few hours. Kind of hard to make a statement like that until you have owned for more than 5 minutes. And let's see the phone after a week. Every single reviewer has said the same thing. The iphone 5 scratches and dents easily. If you consider that better than my phone that still looks brand new and has never had a case on it, then I would have to say you should see a psychologist.
Just admit that Apple failed with this phone, ios6 and maps. People will still buy anything with an Apple logo on it though, even if it looks like a stretched turd, is missing standard hardware, can't do basic functions, is sandboxed, and has terrible nav and mapping software. My S3 will be more capable of a phone than the iphone 7 at this rate. Maybe in 2 years you'll be able to open a file or attach documents to an email.

 

[ethana]

Take an iPhone 4S with iOS 6 and a Galaxy Nexus stock Android 4.1 and put them next to each other and run Geekbench. The iPhone scores mid-600s, the Nexus scores 1000+.

Now scroll the view to see the details of the test. The iPhone is smooth as silk, the Nexus is choppy as hell.

THIS is why benchmarks don't matter. It's about how the OS utilizes the components, NOT how much raw processing power you have.

Another good test is to put the game Ski Safari side-by-side and watch them. You'll see the same results.

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[Vegastouch]

The excuses Android fans are able to produce still amazes me. Like a preference for glossy plastic over high-precision, machined aluminum. And how 5 hours of web browsing time is a feature worth touting. That's quite horrid. I can admit to the perks of Android, but you guys will go to preposterous lengths to reject the iPhone.

As for those last three. The display uses next-generation technology (in-cell touch) and will display colors far more accurately. Your GS3 panel is marred by grossly over saturated colors and the Pentile subpixel configuration. 64 GB of storage on a phone is high. And I'm on AT&T, so I'll be doing voice and data simultaneously, thanks.

You know whats funny? Is you dont even know what your talking about. Your repeating what you most likely read from Apples website. You keep saying "high-precision, machined aluminum". They have you sold at least. Aluminum is aluminum and it is all machined with precision. What do you think? HTC has somebody handcrafting it?
Apples aluminum back isnt any high precision or machined any better than anyone elses.

And ill tell you something else. With that aluminum back you didnt get NFC and why others have been using the ploycarbonate plastic so they can use NFC. You wont see aluminum on the next iPhone if it gets NFC then what will you say? Let me guess at that. You will say...their plastic is "high precision plastic and it is machined", ...or maybe they have some magic mold for it.....which you will say means it is better

I have said over and over again that i like the iPhones and they are good devices but prefer Android over it but you are getting ridiculous now. Who cares if somebody likes plastic over aluminum? Aluminum is slippery.

 

[3bs]

You know whats funny? Is you dont even know what your talking about. Your repeating what you most likely read from Apple website. You keep saying "high-precision, machined aluminum". They have you sold at least. Aluminum is aluminum and it is all machined with precision. What do you think? HTC has somebody handcrafting it?
Apples aluminum back isnt any high precision or machined any better than anyone elses.

And ill tell you something else. With that aluminum back you didnt get NFC and why others have been using the ploycarbonate plastic so they can use NFC. You wont see aluminum on the next iPhone if it gets NFC then what will you say? Let me guess at that. You will say...their plastic is "high precision plastic and it is machined", ...or maybe they have some magic mold for it.....which you will say means it is better

I have said over and over again that i like the iPhones and they are good devices but prefer Android over it but you are getting ridiculous now. Who cares if somebody likes plastic over aluminum? Aluminum is slippery.

I for one prefer plastic as well.

 

[Vegastouch]

I for one prefer plastic as well.

Thing is, i dont have a preference. If i like the phone and it has a aluminum back, so be it....but it is going to get a case on it so i can grip it because the first gen iPhone had that and it was damn slippery.
My Wifes HTC Radar has a high precision, machined aluminum back as well and it is slippery too.

I dont really care if they have a plastic back because i get a case or a different back cover or both ..and if it means it has some better technology because of the plastic back, ...even better!

Im sure zbarvian had a iPhone 3GS and its plastic back that was 12.3mm thick and loved it

 

[Vegastouch]

I read yesterday that the battery in the iP5 is actually smaller than in the 4S. Not by much but the battery in the iP5 is 1424mAh, not 1440. That also helps in making it slimmer though not by much by every little bit helps.

Apples battery is much longer than the Samsung GS3's is, and others ive seen that have a removable cover but it takes up half the space in the phone which is probably why there is no room for a NFC inductor.

 

[Dontazemebro]

@ zbarvian, all the reviews I've seen says the battery is on par with the 4s, maybe slightly better but not really significant. If so, it should be slightly better than the S3 depending on which version you're referring to. I know for a fact the HTC One XL battery lasts a whole day with moderate use and after custom rom tweaks can pretty much go for a day & half.

This is what I normally get with light/moderate usage with over 4hrs screen on time.



BTW - any phone with heavy usage will drain like a sieve, which is why I never really use it as a barometer to gauge battery life.