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D.T.

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I bought their pants for my trip to Europe and I loved them. I could carry a ton of stuff and my wallet/phone were secure.

Neat, I had never heard of them, and for some reason, they kept showing up as an ad on one of my car forums. o_O I spent a little time on the site, and I would absolutely get some pants and/or shorts for an overseas trip - some of the reviews are amazing, where people had like their outer pockets opened, but because of the double/triple security, didn't have anything stolen.
 

MisterSavage

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Neat, I had never heard of them, and for some reason, they kept showing up as an ad on one of my car forums. o_O I spent a little time on the site, and I would absolutely get some pants and/or shorts for an overseas trip - some of the reviews are amazing, where people had like their outer pockets opened, but because of the double/triple security, didn't have anything stolen.

Yep, they'd have to get through velcro, a zipper, and if I'm feeling really paranoid a button flap. The pockets hold a ton of stuff and there are many of them.
 

TheIntruder

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Hiking pants/shorts typically have secured pockets of some kind, so there are many options there as well.

The pockets are also nice to keep things like passports readily at hand when passing through transit centers, and they're more comfortable than something like a pair of jeans to wear on the plane.

Avoiding being pick-pocketed is largely a matter of common sense. Don't appear flashy, use the front pocket, be vigilant in crowded places, don't carry a lot of cash or what you can't afford to lose, make a copy of your passport, etc.
 

Ruggy

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What do see really depends what sort of thing you like doing of course.
Yes, the Louvre and D'Orsey but the Musée Marmottan-Monet is the museum dedicated to Monet if that's the sort of thing you are interested in. Also, the Orangerie (which is at Tulerie) is the home to some of the biggest and most famous Monet waterlily works. There's a permenant exhibition there too, small but interesting.
Also there's the Musee Rodin at Metro Varenne. They've done it all up fairly recently. It's particularly nice in the summer though as the garden is one of the main attractions.
Invalides is another place you might like to visit. It's Napoleon's memorial of course so his tomb is there under the dome, but there's a pretty good collection of military armour.
Someone mentioned St Denis and the Basilisc and it is nice when you there to spend a bit of time wandering around Montrmatre which was the drinking ground of the impressionists and is a network of little cobbled streets with cafés and outside tables.
Someone also mentioned St Chapel and I agree, the windows are magnificent.
A tip about the museums: it's best to go online and check they are open. They have a habit of shutting at odd times like Tuesdays I think, and you can actually book a slot for exhibitions online so no queueing.
As for tips, well one of the nicest ways to get to the Tour Eiffel is to go to Trocodero (there's a museum there too I think photography from memory) and from the terrace, you get the best view of the tour. It's the real tourist view where you can have your picture taken with it in the backgroud. You can then walk down through the gardens to the tour (it's about a 15 minute walk though). The tour is a bit of a pain to get to on public transport anyway so it's quite a nice thing to do s Trocadéro is not far from the Etoile.
Another tip is starting at the Etoile ( Arch de Triumph) you take the bus 92 from Avenue Marceau. It goes right though the heart of Paris, around Concorde, across Pont Royal, past Les Invalides and the Ecole Miliitaire, past La Sorbonne and past the Père Lachaise cemetery It's great way of seeing the city and if you get a pass, you can jump on and off. As you can see, you can also get to a lot of the touristy places on that bus.
Some other really great places in my opinion is are for example Mariage Frères which is a salon de thé (rue du Bourg-Tibourgand) is probably the finest tea shop anywhere in the world (I had an argument with my brother about this he maintained it was Claridge's, so when I went there I asked them, 'Where do you get your tea if it's not a secret?' and they said, 'We get it from a little place in Paris called Mariage Frères.)
The old plantation salon is really special

Àlso Angelina (Rue de Rivoli) if you like hot chocolate. Usually really busy but probably not so many Japanese and Chinese tourists at the moment.

You are a tourist in a foreign city so therefore you will stand out like a sore thumb and be a target for pickpockets etc. Paris isn't a dangerous city but all strange cities are more dangerous for tourists so beware in very touristic locations particularly train stations and airports and try to blend in as much as possible as that's your best protection (baseball cap with shorts or mouse ears for example are a bit of a give away).
Chatelet is a huge station and can be a bit rough. Also Rue St Denis at night is the red light district.
More advice: the Champs Elysees isn't particularly interesting.You will want to walk along it probably but it really isn't that interesting.
Don't eat on the Champs Elysees as you will get terrible service and terrible food. Just go off the tourist track 100 yards and everything will be much better and cheaper.
Generally, you have to be really unlucky to eat badly in France but keep out of the restaurant chains and always choose a place that looks busy and ideally has locals in it.
Try to speak a bit of French and don't criticise France if you want good service.
Restaurants and Café include service charge so you only have to leave a small tip to be polite. If you leave 20ctms for a coffee and €1 for a tip in a restaurant that's enough.
Coffee shops are everywhere including Starbucks. The coffee is ok. I wouldn't say it's great in Paris (compared to Italy) but it isn't bad.
I would advise you to wander round the Quatier Latin for food. It's a nice place anyway. But again, keep off the main tourist drags just a bit and you'll eat much better.
Rue Mouffetard is famous for the food and has a street market.
Also Rue Montorgueil has a good street market. (I love Saint-Germain en laye by the way to whoever said that and I have lived there. I think the Sunday market is a really worth seeing)
One of the cheapest and best ways to get money is simply using your credit card to buy and using your credit card in an ATM machine.
And the water is perfectly safe to drink everywhere. Restaurants have to serve you tap water by law if you ask for it. It is biologically sound pretty much everywhere in France so I have complete confidence you won't get sick. It isn't as fantastic as that superb water you get in New York but you can drink it.
You mention the Moulin Rouge- never been in but it's the red light district along from Pigale so is a nighmare to get anywhere there by Taxi as it's completely packed. I've never felt unsafe walking along there to nightclubs (they have jazz clubs although New Morning is the place for Jazz) but you will be really hassled.
Galleries Lafayette and Printemps can be got to by the RER (Auber) or Opera on the Metro. They are worth visiting but you will see pretty much the same items in them as at home. There are also a lot of restaurants around Opera and along the Bd d'italie
If you are interested in high fashion then it's Avenue Montaigne you want.
 
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Scepticalscribe

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In a coffee shop.
What do see really depends what sort of thing you like doing of course.
Yes, the Louvre and D'Orsey but the Musée Marmottan-Monet is the museum dedicated to Monet if that's the sort of thing you are interested in. Also, the Orangerie (which is at Tulerie) is the home to some of the biggest and most famous Monet waterlily works. There's a permenant exhibition there too, small but interesting.
Also there's the Musee Rodin at Metro Varenne. They've done it all up fairly recently. It's particularly nice in the summer though as the garden is one of the main attractions.
Invalides is another place you might like to visit. It's Napoleon's memorial of course so his tomb is there under the dome, but there's a pretty good collection of military armour.
Someone mentioned St Denis and the Basilisc and it is nice when you there to spend a bit of time wandering around Montrmatre which was the drinking ground of the impressionists and is a network of little cobbled streets with cafés and outside tables.
Someone also mentioned St Chapel and I agree, the windows are magnificent.
A tip about the museums: it's best to go online and check they are open. They have a habit of shutting at odd times like Tuesdays I think, and you can actually book a slot for exhibitions online so no queueing.
As for tips, well one of the nicest ways to get to the Tour Eiffel is to go to Trocodero (there's a museum there too I think photography from memory) and from the terrace, you get the best view of the tour. It's the real tourist view where you can have your picture taken with it in the backgroud. You can then walk down through the gardens to the tour (it's about a 15 minute walk though). The tour is a bit of a pain to get to on public transport anyway so it's quite a nice thing to do s Trocadéro is not far from the Etoile.
Another tip is starting at the Etoile ( Arch de Triumph) you take the bus 92 from Avenue Marceau. It goes right though the heart of Paris, around Concorde, across Pont Royal, past Les Invalides and the Ecole Miliitaire, past La Sorbonne and past the Père Lachaise cemetery It's great way of seeing the city and if you get a pass, you can jump on and off. As you can see, you can also get to a lot of the touristy places on that bus.
Some other really great places in my opinion is are for example Mariage Frères which is a salon de thé (rue du Bourg-Tibourgand) is probably the finest tea shop anywhere in the world (I had an argument with my brother about this he maintained it was Claridge's, so when I went there I asked them, 'Where do you get your tea if it's not a secret?' and they said, 'We get it from a little place in Paris called Mariage Frères.)
The old plantation salon is really special

Àlso Angelina (Rue de Rivoli) if you like hot chocolate. Usually really busy but probably not so many Japanese and Chinese tourists at the moment.

You are a tourist in a foreign city so therefore you will stand out like a sore thumb and be a target for pickpockets etc. Paris isn't a dangerous city but all strange cities are more dangerous for tourists so beware in very touristic locations particularly train stations and airports and try to blend in as much as possible as that's your best protection (baseball cap with shorts or mouse ears for example are a bit of a give away).
Chatelet is a huge station and can be a bit rough. Also Rue St Denis at night is the red light district.
More advice: the Champs Elysees isn't particularly interesting.You will want to walk along it probably but it really isn't that interesting.
Don't eat on the Champs Elysees as you will get terrible service and terrible food. Just go off the tourist track 100 yards and everything will be much better and cheaper.
Generally, you have to be really unlucky to eat badly in France but keep out of the restaurant chains and always choose a place that looks busy and ideally has locals in it.
Try to speak a bit of French and don't criticise France if you want good service.
Restaurants and Café include service charge so you only have to leave a small tip to be polite. If you leave 20ctms for a coffee and €1 for a tip in a restaurant that's enough.
Coffee shops are everywhere including Starbucks. The coffee is ok. I wouldn't say it's great in Paris (compared to Italy) but it isn't bad.
I would advise you to wander round the Quatier Latin for food. It's a nice place anyway. But again, keep off the main tourist drags just a bit and you'll eat much better.
Rue Mouffetard is famous for the food and has a street market.
Also Rue Montorgueil has a good street market. (I love Saint-Germain en laye by the way to whoever said that and I have lived there. I think the Sunday market is a really worth seeing)
One of the cheapest and best ways to get money is simply using your credit card to buy and using your credit card in an ATM machine.
And the water is perfectly safe to drink everywhere. Restaurants have to serve you tap water by law if you ask for it. It is biologically sound pretty much everywhere in France so I have complete confidence you won't get sick. It isn't as fantastic as that superb water you get in New York but you can drink it.
You mention the Moulin Rouge- never been in but it's the red light district along from Pigale so is a nighmare to get anywhere there by Taxi as it's completely packed. I've never felt unsafe walking along there to nightclubs (they have jazz clubs although New Morning is the place for Jazz) but you will be really hassled.
Galleries Lafayette and Printemps can be got to by the RER (Auber) or Opera on the Metro. They are worth visiting but you will see pretty much the same items in them as at home. There are also a lot of restaurants around Opera and along the Bd d'italie
If you are interested in high fashion then it's Avenue Montaigne you want.

Terrific post with some excellent suggestions and ideas and recommendations.
 

Huntn

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What do see really depends what sort of thing you like doing of course.
Yes, the Louvre and D'Orsey but the Musée Marmottan-Monet is the museum dedicated to Monet if that's the sort of thing you are interested in. Also, the Orangerie (which is at Tulerie) is the home to some of the biggest and most famous Monet waterlily works. There's a permenant exhibition there too, small but interesting.
Also there's the Musee Rodin at Metro Varenne. They've done it all up fairly recently. It's particularly nice in the summer though as the garden is one of the main attractions.
Invalides is another place you might like to visit. It's Napoleon's memorial of course so his tomb is there under the dome, but there's a pretty good collection of military armour.
Someone mentioned St Denis and the Basilisc and it is nice when you there to spend a bit of time wandering around Montrmatre which was the drinking ground of the impressionists and is a network of little cobbled streets with cafés and outside tables.
Someone also mentioned St Chapel and I agree, the windows are magnificent.
A tip about the museums: it's best to go online and check they are open. They have a habit of shutting at odd times like Tuesdays I think, and you can actually book a slot for exhibitions online so no queueing.
As for tips, well one of the nicest ways to get to the Tour Eiffel is to go to Trocodero (there's a museum there too I think photography from memory) and from the terrace, you get the best view of the tour. It's the real tourist view where you can have your picture taken with it in the backgroud. You can then walk down through the gardens to the tour (it's about a 15 minute walk though). The tour is a bit of a pain to get to on public transport anyway so it's quite a nice thing to do s Trocadéro is not far from the Etoile.
Another tip is starting at the Etoile ( Arch de Triumph) you take the bus 92 from Avenue Marceau. It goes right though the heart of Paris, around Concorde, across Pont Royal, past Les Invalides and the Ecole Miliitaire, past La Sorbonne and past the Père Lachaise cemetery It's great way of seeing the city and if you get a pass, you can jump on and off. As you can see, you can also get to a lot of the touristy places on that bus.
Some other really great places in my opinion is are for example Mariage Frères which is a salon de thé (rue du Bourg-Tibourgand) is probably the finest tea shop anywhere in the world (I had an argument with my brother about this he maintained it was Claridge's, so when I went there I asked them, 'Where do you get your tea if it's not a secret?' and they said, 'We get it from a little place in Paris called Mariage Frères.)
The old plantation salon is really special

Àlso Angelina (Rue de Rivoli) if you like hot chocolate. Usually really busy but probably not so many Japanese and Chinese tourists at the moment.

You are a tourist in a foreign city so therefore you will stand out like a sore thumb and be a target for pickpockets etc. Paris isn't a dangerous city but all strange cities are more dangerous for tourists so beware in very touristic locations particularly train stations and airports and try to blend in as much as possible as that's your best protection (baseball cap with shorts or mouse ears for example are a bit of a give away).
Chatelet is a huge station and can be a bit rough. Also Rue St Denis at night is the red light district.
More advice: the Champs Elysees isn't particularly interesting.You will want to walk along it probably but it really isn't that interesting.
Don't eat on the Champs Elysees as you will get terrible service and terrible food. Just go off the tourist track 100 yards and everything will be much better and cheaper.
Generally, you have to be really unlucky to eat badly in France but keep out of the restaurant chains and always choose a place that looks busy and ideally has locals in it.
Try to speak a bit of French and don't criticise France if you want good service.
Restaurants and Café include service charge so you only have to leave a small tip to be polite. If you leave 20ctms for a coffee and €1 for a tip in a restaurant that's enough.
Coffee shops are everywhere including Starbucks. The coffee is ok. I wouldn't say it's great in Paris (compared to Italy) but it isn't bad.
I would advise you to wander round the Quatier Latin for food. It's a nice place anyway. But again, keep off the main tourist drags just a bit and you'll eat much better.
Rue Mouffetard is famous for the food and has a street market.
Also Rue Montorgueil has a good street market. (I love Saint-Germain en laye by the way to whoever said that and I have lived there. I think the Sunday market is a really worth seeing)
One of the cheapest and best ways to get money is simply using your credit card to buy and using your credit card in an ATM machine.
And the water is perfectly safe to drink everywhere. Restaurants have to serve you tap water by law if you ask for it. It is biologically sound pretty much everywhere in France so I have complete confidence you won't get sick. It isn't as fantastic as that superb water you get in New York but you can drink it.
You mention the Moulin Rouge- never been in but it's the red light district along from Pigale so is a nighmare to get anywhere there by Taxi as it's completely packed. I've never felt unsafe walking along there to nightclubs (they have jazz clubs although New Morning is the place for Jazz) but you will be really hassled.
Galleries Lafayette and Printemps can be got to by the RER (Auber) or Opera on the Metro. They are worth visiting but you will see pretty much the same items in them as at home. There are also a lot of restaurants around Opera and along the Bd d'italie
If you are interested in high fashion then it's Avenue Montaigne you want.
Even though I felt like I was butchering the language a "Pardon monsieur, parlez-vous Anglais?" went so far!

My last trip to France I used my iPhone English to French verbal translator and got some chuckles! :D
 
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MisterSavage

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My last trip to France I used my iPhone English to French verbal translator and got some chuckles! :D

In Switzerland I used Google Translate to translate English to Italian to tell the shop owners how much we loved their food. That got some smiles also!
 

MarcoPolo9999

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Are you dead set on visiting only Paris ? There are a lot of really nice cities, towns and villages in France. Paris is very touristy and fake, the city doesn't really have a "soul" in my opinion (I'm French). Strasbourg is a really authentic and beautiful city to visit.
A really nice region is Indre-et-Loire, lots of wine (Chinon, Vouvray, Saint-Nicolas-de-Bourgeuil), lots of cheese (best one is sainte-Maure-de-Touraine), Tours has the best rillettes in the world (don't let people from Le Mans tel you otherwise) and lots and lots of great restaurants. There are also a lot of castles to visit, trails to walk, forests and parks to explore, plus you get to meet """real""" authentic French people.

edit : just to clarify, Parisians are not any less French than the other French people but they're Parisian first and French second, I don't know if this is going to make sense to you but it is what it is.
 
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rhett7660

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Are you dead set on visiting only Paris ? There are a lot of really nice cities, towns and villages in France. Paris is very touristy and fake, the city doesn't really have a "soul" in my opinion (I'm French). Strasbourg is a really authentic and beautiful city to visit.
A really nice region is Indre-et-Loire, lots of wine (Chinon, Vouvray, Saint-Nicolas-de-Bourgeuil), lots of cheese (best one is sainte-Maure-de-Touraine), Tours has the best rillettes in the world (don't let people from Le Mans tel you otherwise) and lots and lots of great restaurants. There are also a lot of castles to visit, trails to walk, forests and parks to explore, plus you get to meet """real""" authentic French people.

edit : just to clarify, Parisians are not any less French than the other French people but they're Parisian first and French second, I don't know if this is going to make sense to you but it is what it is.

This is a bucket list item for the wife. She really wants Paris on this trip. We will be booking more in the future, but for this trip, Paris is where we will be going!
 

Huntn

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Based on my previous trip and a comment made in a discussion about it, and a near future trip to Paris, I previously mentioned getting day passes for the metro/train system and was told there were cheaper ways to get around, but I don’t remember. Anyone remember, or have advice on this? I might have to go dig up that in the State Your Vacation Location thread. :)
 

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Based on my previous trip and a comment made in a discussion about it, and a near future trip to Paris, I previously mentioned getting day passes for the metro/train system and was told there were cheaper ways to get around, but I don’t remember. Anyone remember, or have advice on this? I might have to go dig up that in the State Your Vacation Location thread. :)
Hmm, it really depends how much you want to use it and the answer is a bit complicated.
A day pass for tourists (from memory ) costs about €15 euros and for that you can use metro, bus, tram, and RER inside Paris ( zone 1 and 2) for the day. So you can for example, hop out of the metro and hop back in again when you like.
You can also buy a 'Carnet' of 10 single use tickets which costs about the same but they are only validated when you use them so if you stay a week and only think you'll use 10 tickets for example, then it's a lot cheaper for you.
It's a bit more complicated than that though because once you've put your ticket in the machine and entered the system, the ticket is only valid for 2 hours and for one trip. So, suppose you want to change lines, use the RER but stay in the system then you've no problem. But as soon as you go up into the street and leave the system, you need another ticket when you go down again and although theoretically, you should still be able to use a ticket on the metro then use it up top on a bus for the same journey, it's very difficult to prove (although usually inspectors are pretty good in my experience).
If you want to go outside Paris (la Defence for instance- zone 3) then you need a different ticket and you can get caught like that on the RER, and if you go into the suburbs, the airport, Disney, then you can go up to zone 5 and they you need a special ticket.
I think that is the cheapest way if you want to carefully watch what you are doing (and you have to keep a validated ticket until you are out of the system too) but frankly, it probably isn't worth it for the hassle when you have other things to think about unless you know you aren't going to use public transport much.
There are a lot of Ubers in Paris too and if you want to take a trip to another town, it's worth checking the very well used car sharing service called BlaBlaCar. You can get right down the other end of the country sometimes for €25
 

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Hmm, it really depends how much you want to use it and the answer is a bit complicated.
A day pass for tourists (from memory ) costs about €15 euros and for that you can use metro, bus, tram, and RER inside Paris ( zone 1 and 2) for the day. So you can for example, hop out of the metro and hop back in again when you like.
You can also buy a 'Carnet' of 10 single use tickets which costs about the same but they are only validated when you use them so if you stay a week and only think you'll use 10 tickets for example, then it's a lot cheaper for you.
It's a bit more complicated than that though because once you've put your ticket in the machine and entered the system, the ticket is only valid for 2 hours and for one trip. So, suppose you want to change lines, use the RER but stay in the system then you've no problem. But as soon as you go up into the street and leave the system, you need another ticket when you go down again and although theoretically, you should still be able to use a ticket on the metro then use it up top on a bus for the same journey, it's very difficult to prove (although usually inspectors are pretty good in my experience).
If you want to go outside Paris (la Defence for instance- zone 3) then you need a different ticket and you can get caught like that on the RER, and if you go into the suburbs, the airport, Disney, then you can go up to zone 5 and they you need a special ticket.
I think that is the cheapest way if you want to carefully watch what you are doing (and you have to keep a validated ticket until you are out of the system too) but frankly, it probably isn't worth it for the hassle when you have other things to think about unless you know you aren't going to use public transport much.
There are a lot of Ubers in Paris too and if you want to take a trip to another town, it's worth checking the very well used car sharing service called BlaBlaCar. You can get right down the other end of the country sometimes for €25
I’m heading out the door, and will digest this later today, with possible questions. thanks! :D
 

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I’m heading out the door, and will digest this later today, with possible questions. thanks! :D
And an afterthought, of course if there are 2 of you then having a Carnet of tickets can work out a lot more convenient as you can both use them wheres you'd both need a travel pass.
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Just a quick mention of the Coronavirus.
The numbers of cases have gone up in France to 190 as I write but so far none 'wild' in Paris.
That is, there are people that have been hospitalised in Paris, but there have been no cases reported coming from people that live in Paris or have caught it in Paris.
The case split into 4 groups: the biggest group is people that caught the virus in China and Italy and went into hospital when they got back.
There's a small knot in the alps from a guy that stopped off from China for a few days.
There's a knot in a couple of villages in the Oise about 50 miles North of Paris and that's been quarantined.
And there's a knot of cases around Carnac in Brittany.
There don't seem to be cases anywhere else at the moment but that could change of course.
 
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Another afterthought that might be useful to some:
It might be worth if you need epipen or something medical, to check the pharmacies.
The health service is very good for things like that and even medical testing is very quick and very cheap.
It's perhaps something you don't really want to think about on holiday but for example:
2x Epipen 0.3mg public price in the pharmacie= 75,78 euros
 

sabaron

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Looking at your list, you should also consider going to :

- Montmartre
- Le Marais district
- Graveyard of "Le Père lachaise"
- Walking down the Canal Saint Martin is also pretty nice
 

rhett7660

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Thank you everyone for the ideas and suggestions!!!! This has been a great help.

One last question... I have been reading about tipping and so far, there seems to be mixed reviews on tipping... Can someone give me a short answer... such as Yes or No as to tipping. This would be for like taxi rides or services at a restaurant.

Thanks again
 

Huntn

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For phone usage and navigation, the last time we went to France our iPhones with a T-Mobile service worked well, without undue expense for phone calls and unlimited data for GPS. I don’t renember having to make any changes like swapping out the SIM card or such, they just worked, but I will check with T-Mobile again before we leave. I have a dedicated GPS unit I bring, but the last time, my phone with a portable dash mount, did a better job, with more updated maps.

The only caveat is that phones require cell coverage and a dedicated gps unit, just requires gps. However the last time we went there and traveled between Paris and Normandy, there was always cell coverage.

Of note, the issue I am running into on a regular basis now with rental cars is Car Play, iPhone, and GPS navigation. . If the car has Car Play and you can't turn it off, it interferes with the display of the iPhones GPS map. The map does not display, but instead you get a list of turn instructions which is not satisfactory. The answer is to figure out how to turn off Car Play, but the last rental car a Nissan Rogue had no disable setting. The answer in that case is to find another USB port not directly under the radio which may require a longer USB cord or to bring a power cord that runs off the cigarette lighter.

Hmm, it really depends how much you want to use it and the answer is a bit complicated.
A day pass for tourists (from memory ) costs about €15 euros and for that you can use metro, bus, tram, and RER inside Paris ( zone 1 and 2) for the day. So you can for example, hop out of the metro and hop back in again when you like.
You can also buy a 'Carnet' of 10 single use tickets which costs about the same but they are only validated when you use them so if you stay a week and only think you'll use 10 tickets for example, then it's a lot cheaper for you.
It's a bit more complicated than that though because once you've put your ticket in the machine and entered the system, the ticket is only valid for 2 hours and for one trip. So, suppose you want to change lines, use the RER but stay in the system then you've no problem. But as soon as you go up into the street and leave the system, you need another ticket when you go down again and although theoretically, you should still be able to use a ticket on the metro then use it up top on a bus for the same journey, it's very difficult to prove (although usually inspectors are pretty good in my experience).
If you want to go outside Paris (la Defence for instance- zone 3) then you need a different ticket and you can get caught like that on the RER, and if you go into the suburbs, the airport, Disney, then you can go up to zone 5 and they you need a special ticket.
I think that is the cheapest way if you want to carefully watch what you are doing (and you have to keep a validated ticket until you are out of the system too) but frankly, it probably isn't worth it for the hassle when you have other things to think about unless you know you aren't going to use public transport much.
There are a lot of Ubers in Paris too and if you want to take a trip to another town, it's worth checking the very well used car sharing service called BlaBlaCar. You can get right down the other end of the country sometimes for €25
The plan right now is out of a 9 day trip (leaving 1 April) is to spend one day in Paris at the end of the trip. We’ve already done our “Paris” vacation. We’ll arrive, jump in a rental car and head out out of town, then return to Paris with one day spent down town before leaving. That one day down town, we’ll be going to several locations a couple of gardens/parks, Notre Dame, possible other places So my inclination is considering the Carnet if 10 passes which I assume can be shared, because it sounds like that would be half as expensive as 2 day passes? Option 2 would be to go for 2 day passes.
 
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@Ruggy you are a true font of useful information! I am 3 h 25 min or so from Paris by TGV and many of my students wish to visit the city the weekend so I will be passing this information on to them.
Thank you, I'm glad I can be useful.
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Thank you everyone for the ideas and suggestions!!!! This has been a great help.

One last question... I have been reading about tipping and so far, there seems to be mixed reviews on tipping... Can someone give me a short answer... such as Yes or No as to tipping. This would be for like taxi rides or services at a restaurant.

Thanks again
In France people aren't as big on tipping as you'd usually see in America.
In a restaurant, cafe or where hot food is served there is a service charge added by law (20%) so you don't have to add anything but it's usual to leave a small tip of maybe 20c for a coffee and maybe 50c or euro for a meal or more if you are really delighted with the service.
But there's absolutely no reason to leave more than that and they won't expect you to.
Taxis, yes round it up, if you have a haircut, same thing-I don't know why really.
I've never stayed in a hotel in Paris but it really isn't a tipping culture and there's a minimum wage by law so you don't have to make a big thing of it.
Hope that helps.
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Fir general info purposes, the last time we went to France our iPhones with a T-Mobile service worked well, without undue expense for phone calls and unlimited data for GPS. I have a dedicated GPS unit I bring, but the last time, my phone did a better job , with more updated maps.

Of note, the issue I am running into in a regular basis now with rental cars is Car Play and the iPhone. If the car has Car Play and you can't turn it off, it interferes with the display of the iPhones GPS map. The map does not display, but instead you get a list of turn instructions which is not satisfactory. The answer is to figure out how to turn off Car Play, but the last rental car a Nissan Rogue had no disable setting. The answer in that case is to find another USB port not directly under the radio which may require a longer USB cord or to bring a power cord that runs off the cigarette lighter.


The plan right now is out of a 9 day trip (leaving 1 April) is to spend one day in Paris at the end of the trip. We’ve already done our “Paris” vacation. We’ll arrive, jump in a rental car and head out out of town, then return to Paris with one day spent down town before leaving. That one day down town, we’ll be going to several locations a couple of gardens/parks, Notre Dame, possible other places So my inclination is considering the Carnet if 10 passes which I assume can be shared, because it sounds like that would be half as expensive as 2 day passes? Option 2 would be to go for 2 day passes.
Yes it sounds like sharing a Carnet would be perfect for you.
 
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Thank you everyone for the ideas and suggestions!!!! This has been a great help.

One last question... I have been reading about tipping and so far, there seems to be mixed reviews on tipping... Can someone give me a short answer... such as Yes or No as to tipping. This would be for like taxi rides or services at a restaurant.

Thanks again
My experience, no tipping.

France does not have a tipping culture. Workers, including waiters, taxi drivers, etc., are paid a good wage. Tips are neither expected or required - except perhaps in very touristy places where Americans tend to over tip, and that practice has resulted in some service workers expecting to be tipped
 

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My experience, no tipping.

France does not have a tipping culture. Workers, including waiters, taxi drivers, etc., are paid a good wage. Tips are neither expected or required - except perhaps in very touristy places where Americans tend to over tip, and that practice has resulted in some service workers expecting to be tipped

Thank you.
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In France people aren't as big on tipping as you'd usually see in America.
In a restaurant, cafe or where hot food is served there is a service charge added by law (20%) so you don't have to add anything but it's usual to leave a small tip of maybe 20c for a coffee and maybe 50c or euro for a meal or more if you are really delighted with the service.
But there's absolutely no reason to leave more than that and they won't expect you to.
Taxis, yes round it up, if you have a haircut, same thing-I don't know why really.
I've never stayed in a hotel in Paris but it really isn't a tipping culture and there's a minimum wage by law so you don't have to make a big thing of it.
Hope that helps.
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Yes it sounds like sharing a Carnet would be perfect for you.

Very much... thank you.
 
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That one day down town, we’ll be going to several locations a couple of gardens/parks, Notre Dame, possible other places So my inclination is considering the Carnet if 10 passes which I assume can be shared, because it sounds like that would be half as expensive as 2 day passes? Option 2 would be to go for 2 day passes.

A Carnet is just a loose bundle of individual tickets to use how you want.

But, they're just small slips of paper, not unlike the tickets handed out at arcades and raffles, so treat them accordingly.

And don't toss them before you leave the system, or you'll have to pay a fine if you encounter a fare check at a station exit.

Not sure how the Germans do it without losing their shirts, but their transit systems, which have no fare gates, and rely entirely on the honor system, are fantastic. Even with undercover spot checks, I have to wonder what percentage of riders are cheating.
 
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The carnet tickets will probably have a long validity period versus the day pass. You will have to accurately calculate the number of subway rides you will take during your stay. The more times you hop on/off, the more attractive the day passes are.

Depending on the transit system, the day pass might actually be a 24-hour pass, starting from the moment you walk through the first fare gate so read the fine print carefully.

I don't know specifically about what Paris offers at this moment, but some municipalities add other benefits to the tourist transit pass, like discounted admission to cultural attractions (museums, etc.). Again, you will need to look at your planned itinerary and figure out whether or not a tourist pass has other compelling reasons.

As for cellular data, look into My Truphone and Ubigi eSIM apps (assuming your phone has an eSIM). The My Truphone app has a 1 GB EU data plan valid for 30 days at US$6 (I just checked; they have plans with more data). If you use a credit card that doesn't have foreign transaction fees, that's all you'll pay.

Just make sure to vet your apps carefully for what can/cannot use cellular data. You don't want to be upgrading apps from the iOS App Store over cellular data and you probably want to think twice about vlogging 4K video as well.

When I travel to Europe, I get the 1 GB/30 day Truphone plan; my typical trips are 2-2.5 weeks. I usually do this while I'm waiting at the baggage carousel for my luggage. This means I don't need to hunt down a cellular carrier shop, most of which are closed on Sundays and outside normal retail business hours. I can go directly to the taxi stand or public transit station and my phone is connected. There's really little delay compared to an interminable activation delay period typical of physical SIMs.

I will point out that the My Truphone eSIM international service only offers cellular data. There is no voice nor text. For me, that's fine, I use Google Voice, I can use Google Hangouts for outgoing VoIP calls. Incoming calls I have forwarded to a free Talkatone account. SMS is handled by the Google Voice app.

It's difficult to express how awesome the Truphone EU cellular data plan is if you are visiting multiple European countries. 4-5 years ago, you'd be stuck visiting a mobile phone store every time you'd cross a border. Today you get smoothly handed off from one carrier to another when you cross EU borders.
 
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The carnet tickets will probably have a long validity period versus the day pass. You will have to accurately calculate the number of subway rides you will take during your stay. The more times you hop on/off, the more attractive the day passes are.

Depending on the transit system, the day pass might actually be a 24-hour pass, starting from the moment you walk through the first fare gate so read the fine print carefully.

I don't know specifically about what Paris offers at this moment, but some municipalities add other benefits to the tourist transit pass, like discounted admission to cultural attractions (museums, etc.). Again, you will need to look at your planned itinerary and figure out whether or not a tourist pass has other compelling reasons.

As for cellular data, look into My Truphone and Ubigi eSIM apps (assuming your phone has an eSIM). The My Truphone app has a 1 GB EU data plan valid for 30 days at US$6 (I just checked; they have plans with more data). If you use a credit card that doesn't have foreign transaction fees, that's all you'll pay.

Just make sure to vet your apps carefully for what can/cannot use cellular data. You don't want to be upgrading apps from the iOS App Store over cellular data and you probably want to think twice about vlogging 4K video as well.

When I travel to Europe, I get the 1 GB/30 day Truphone plan; my typical trips are 2-2.5 weeks. I usually do this while I'm waiting at the baggage carousel for my luggage. This means I don't need to hunt down a cellular carrier shop, most of which are closed on Sundays and outside normal retail business hours. I can go directly to the taxi stand or public transit station and my phone is connected. There's really little delay compared to an interminable activation delay period typical of physical SIMs.

I will point out that the My Truphone eSIM international service only offers cellular data. There is no voice nor text. For me, that's fine, I use Google Voice, I can use Google Hangouts for outgoing VoIP calls. Incoming calls I have forwarded to a free Talkatone account. SMS is handled by the Google Voice app.

It's difficult to express how awesome the Truphone EU cellular data plan is if you are visiting multiple European countries. 4-5 years ago, you'd be stuck visiting a mobile phone store every time you'd cross a border. Today you get smoothly handed off from one carrier to another when you cross EU borders.
The last time we were in France for a week, I made 2 short phone calls to let the proprietor of a property know we had arrived. As I recall phone calls on T-Mobile were $.25 a minute and data was free. Data for GPS navigation, it’s huge that it’s free with T-Mobile but realize not everyone has that.
 
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