Google now a convicted criminal!

[Oletros]

So what's left of the lawsuit that was supposed to bury Android ?

9 lines of code (rangeCheck) which could have been written by a 12 year old according to the judge and are worth nothing according to Oracle lawyers, and a question about the copyrightability of APIs which everyone in the industry agrees would be a completely bad thing. Not to mention the EU already ruled it non-copyrightable.

Where are the billions in damages now ? This as all been a big farce by Oracle and anyone that was rooting for them is now stuck with their feet firmly entrenched in their mouthes.

And where are those big injunctions predicted by Mueller?

 

[ChazUK]

Mueller tweeted it yesterday.

Jury doesn't find Google to infringe two Oracle patents -- but the litigation is far from over bit.ly/JIf9jV Copyright is and was key

It was all about Copyright....... /s

 

[KnightWRX]

Mueller tweeted it yesterday.



It was all about Copyright....... /s

Copyright that was completely gutted and is now about a "make or break" the whole industry question and 9 lines of code. Yes Florian, Mr. "I'm on Oracle's payroll". He needs to shut up.

 

[Oletros]

Copyright that was completely gutted and is now about a "make or break" the whole industry question and 9 lines of code. Yes Florian, Mr. "I'm on Oracle's payroll". He needs to shut up.

He still wishes that Judge Alsup rules that API's can be copyrighted

Wel, at the same time, he says that Judge Alsup has misguided the jury

 

[KnightWRX]

Wel, at the same time, he says that Judge Alsup has misguided the jury

Of course he would say that, he's admitted to being employed by Oracle. He's simply pitching the company line. They're probably preparing their appeal right now.

 

[ellaimac]

Google wins...

UPDATE!!! Mashable reports that Google wins in Oracle lawsuit http://mashable.com/2012/05/23/google-wins-oracle-suit/

“Today’s jury verdict that Android does not infringe Oracle’s patents was a victory not just for Google but the entire Android ecosystem,” Google said in an e-mailed statement to Mashable.

 

[KnightWRX]

UPDATE!!! Mashable reports that Google wins in Oracle lawsuit http://mashable.com/2012/05/23/google-wins-oracle-suit/

“Today’s jury verdict that Android does not infringe Oracle’s patents was a victory not just for Google but the entire Android ecosystem,” Google said in an e-mailed statement to Mashable.

Hum, you're a couple of posts late. There's still the issue of the copyright claims to discuss. Your article offers nothing new and mashable obviously has no understanding of the case.

 

[Oletros]

A federal judge has declined to revisit Oracle’s claims that Google’s infringed on its patents in building the Android mobile operating system.

Wired

From the order:
"For this reason, a reasonable jury could have rejected every word of his testimony."

"A reasonable jury could have found his many “mistakes” in his report merely to be convenient alterations to fix truthful admissions earlier made before he realized the import of his admissions.
"
Ouch

 

[Oletros]

And now Google is not a convicted criminal, Judge Alsup has ruled that the 37 API's are not copyrighteable, so Google hasn't infringed it.

It's a pitty that the ruling is only for this 37 API's and not for all API's

 

[KnightWRX]

And now Google is not a convicted criminal, Judge Alsup has ruled that the 37 API's are not copyrighteable, so Google hasn't infringed it.

It's a pitty that the ruling is only for this 37 API's and not for all API's

So, the lawsuit that was supposed to bury Google and Android comes down to : rangeCheck, 9 lines of code that a "high schooler" could've written according to the judge and that are "worthless" according to Oracle's lawyers.

Wonder what the damage award over it is going to be, if any. Oracle is going to want to appeal this.

I wonder what Florian Mueller is thinking right now about that giant foot in his mouth.

Also quite funny the OP didn't come back to this thread... where's the gloating now ?

 

[Oletros]

I wonder what Florian Mueller is thinking right now about that giant foot in his mouth.

Mueller is totally out of reality:

Against this background, it's fair to say that even he (Judge Alsup) is clearly unsure of the defensibility of his ruling on appeal, even though he certainly didn't make that concession in the order itself.

http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/05/judge-says-google-only-used.html

 

[ellaimac]

Hum, you're a couple of posts late. There's still the issue of the copyright claims to discuss. Your article offers nothing new and mashable obviously has no understanding of the case.

The case is almost dismissed.

As said: The judge reportedly dismissed the jurors and the third phase of the trial, which would have covered damages if Google was found guilty.

 

[maflynn]

The case is almost dismissed.

I'm not trying to quibble on semantics but I think the difference is enough. The jury found that google did not infringe two Java-related patent and the judge ruled ruled that the structure of the Java APIs that Oracle was trying to assert can't be copyrighted at all.

Its not a dismissal but a ruling against Oracle, they will be appeallnig as stated.

I think they were found guilty of copying one function which they can only collect statutory damages.

A nice write up on this is on Ars

 

[KnightWRX]

I'm not trying to quibble on semantics but I think the difference is enough. The jury found that google did not infringe two Java-related patent and the judge ruled ruled that the structure of the Java APIs that Oracle was trying to assert can't be copyrighted at all.

Its not a dismissal but a ruling against Oracle, they will be appeallnig as stated.

I think they were found guilty of copying one function which they can only collect statutory damages.

A nice write up on this is on Ars

The rangeCheck function I mentionned. And damages for that are in question, seeing how it's only 9 lines which can hardly be written in another way. Even Oracle's lawyers agree it's mostly worthless. Groklaw remains the best source of information about the case :

http://www.groklaw.net

Groklaw is written by a judicial technician, someone with an actual background in law. It has all the pacer documents, eye witness "liveblogs" of the trial, etc.. Much better coverage than a tech blog can provide.