Developers can specify the countries that they want their apps sold in, and they are able to exclude the US. Now if that is done, what can AT&T have to say about it? It'd be interesting to see how true the above actually is this way if something is resubmitted leaving the US out. I would go to say that the app would probably be denied again, even though AT&T would have no say in its status.
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Google's own Google Voice app rejected
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Apple are disgusting when it comes to control. I know everyone here thinks Apple are innocent here, but they are not. Apple doesnt like anything stepping on their toes; why do you think Netflix took years to get to Mac? Because Apple wouldnt license their DRM tools. What about DIVX on Apple TV? Oh, and Blu Ray.. LOL
Why is everyone surprised?
Oh and if you think Spotify will get through.. You're embarrassing yourself. But that will be AT&T's fault right? Fools....
The US has at least 60% of all iPhone users. Why is Googe or anyone else going to release an app excluding a majority of iPhone users if it is not a language issue. Google simply won't bother. I'm not even sure how widely available Google Voice is around the world. It's essentially pointless.
Apple has no vested interest in Google Voice rejected. The revenue sharing deal is over now. It clearly affects the carrier. Having a single non carrier phone number means you are no longer tied to that carrier for that phone number. You can also send free SMS's which AT&T constantly robs us on.
Apple deserves blame as well but its for shaking hands with the devil and not allowing apps on the store for frivolous reasons.
No flaws or anything have really made me mad with my iPhone thus far but this really makes me mad. We can access GV from the web, they can't stop us from texting from there, they already approved GV Mobile and Voicecentral and even though they now pulled those off what difference did they find in Google's to decide to pull them all? Though I'm glad I installed GV Mobile when I did last week, it's not really doing it for me and I was really looking forward to an official Google app. Hopefully Apple comes around.
whats funny is that the GV (unoffical) app was in the store for like a year and now it gets pulled because the offical app is rejected.
The best thing we as users can do is keep voicing ours opinions often and loudly. If there is enough of a stink they will change their minds.
The best thing we as users can do is keep voicing ours opinions often and loudly. If there is enough of a stink they will change their minds.
I don't agree. Apple doesn't have a "contract" with Google to use their maps. Anyone can write an app and incorporate Google Maps - they're free. The real reason for the delay was probably because AT&T didn't have their GPS subscription service/app ready. Kind of funny, GPS is allowed and then AT&T has the first App out. It makes you wonder who really is making the decisions about this phone? I can't wait until exclusivity is over. It's sort of like indentured servitude.
you think Verizon is any better? go read howardforums about how VZ locks some phones down, makes you buy special VZ cables to connect to a PC to grab photos off your phone, charges extra to unlock bluetooth, etc etc
iphone isn't perfect but it's a lot better than Verizon. at least with the iphone i can put any movie file on it and play it or buy a movie through itunes and keep it for myself. with VZ and it's Get it Now you are screwed.
This is just AT&T fighting off Google that likes to leech on other companies' networks and content
I think I've just about had it with the control Apple has here, and the way AT&T uses their relationship to do this. Cripple SlingPlayer, cripple Skype, block Google Voice, etc. I"m getting a myTouch 3G next week when it's released, and odds are I'll be leaving AT&T.
I remember thinking when the App Store was first launched that stuff like this would end up happening, and sure enough it's happening over and over again.
I know it's not Apple, it's AT&T. I will no longer be giving my business to AT&T. I understand I'll be getting less of a phone, but I will not support this crap any longer.
I remember thinking when the App Store was first launched that stuff like this would end up happening, and sure enough it's happening over and over again.
I know it's not Apple, it's AT&T. I will no longer be giving my business to AT&T. I understand I'll be getting less of a phone, but I will not support this crap any longer.
Um, not sure whether you guys have noticed yet... but the google Voice website, which always worked just fine in Safari on the iPhone, now says "your phone is not supported"!!
They really do suck... and I can't believe that they can get away with such anti-competitive practices...
They really do suck... and I can't believe that they can get away with such anti-competitive practices...
lol @ all you att haters if u got a problem with att then drop your service and go pickup your locked down vzw phone. im happy with att and im glad they have the iphone my discount is amazing and i rarely have call issues. it sucks they MAY have had a hand in the rejection but such is life.. im sure it will be on cyida (gv dialer, gv mobile) at least.
More customer dis-satisfaction from Apple.
I've been using Sean Kovac's DV Mobile for almost 2 weeks now. It's great as it gives quick access to my GV voicemail, settings, etc.
So, is Apple going to do what Amazon did with the Kindle recently and remotely remove my DV Mobile application?
I've been using Sean Kovac's DV Mobile for almost 2 weeks now. It's great as it gives quick access to my GV voicemail, settings, etc.
So, is Apple going to do what Amazon did with the Kindle recently and remotely remove my DV Mobile application?
just as much apples fault as att. love how you guys always point the finger at att 1st. apple could never do anything wrong right!
It is as much Apple's fault as AT&T. It is their product. It ultimately, though, doesn't matter who's fault it is. Either way the iPhone doesn't have the most significant apps and those they have are crippled. I'll leave it up to the consumer as to which they prefer: A beautiful product in hardware and software or a phone which uses apps to their fullest potential.
Let's put it this way. If Apple didn't have agreements with carriers and just sold the iPhone as an unlocked phone you put your SIM card into, we wouldn't have any of these problems. SlingPlayer and Skype would work over cellular data, and Google Voice would likely be in the App Store. AT&T is the biggest problem here, and Apple has to do what AT&T says as far as these apps go.
It's not the end of the world. As others have said, you can still access Google voice's mobile web page. Bookmark this in your iPhone:
Yes, it's not as nice as a native app, but it's not bad, either. There does, however, seem to be an issue accessing google contacts --for some reason, most of mine aren't accessible from the GV mobile web page.
(side note: https is recommended)
Yes, it's not as nice as a native app, but it's not bad, either. There does, however, seem to be an issue accessing google contacts --for some reason, most of mine aren't accessible from the GV mobile web page.
(side note: https is recommended)
It doesn't matter. It is still Apple's fault. This is the Apple iPhone. They are still signing exclusive deals (see China Unicom). The best solution is for this phone to be available on all carriers. Instead Apple is going for the cash and crapping on its users in the process. Apple's greed is turning them into M$.
Did you miss the iPhone 3.0 OS Preview video? Apple stated very clearly that they have a contract with Google for using their Maps and those maps can't be used for GPS developers at all. Those maps are licensed to Apple only, and using their Map App to get direction or location is not the same as actually using the maps. Devs are allowed to call on Map API as wrapper (calling location data and map app returning the value as a pic of the map with the pin on it), but they're not allowed to use the maps itself.
Also just because Google Maps is free does not mean a dev can do anything with it. People have to follow their TOS and APIs and there are limits to how much transactions can occur.
Apple IIRC didn't allow GPS apps because there was no GPS API in place before 3.0. Apple do not like people using undocumented APIs.