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wtf? was this app removed from the app store? i see it but can't buy it

Probably because it doesn't work. After numerous tries I get the following error: Could not communicate with server. Error Domain=NSURLErrorDomain Code=-1004 UserInfo=xxxxxx can't connect to host. You may not receive GMail push notifications.

This was a total rip off!
 
Push saves battery?

Since when?

Push NOTIFICATIONS might, but Push Email is a batter HOG on this phone.

They are two separate things often confused on this forum.

What are the differences? (no sarcasm, just wanted to know)
 
I have 4 Gmail accounts that I need to check so am not even going to try this until GPush supports more than one account. That seems to be a short-sighted limited -- I realize that this in only release 1.1.

I have several eMail accounts with different hosts. What I do, is in each of the accounts, set it up to Forward ALL mail to my Yahoo email account. This way, on my iPhone, I only have the Yahoo account turned on. I did set it up for most of the accounts, but don't have them 'On' under Settings/Mail/Accouns/(account name). I set the others up just in case there was a problem with Yahoo. Anyway, Yahoo handles the Push pretty well. Every once in a great while, the Push may stop, and the Manual 15 minute check takes care of it. Usually, powering down the iPhone, and restarting takes care of the Push not working.

I'm on a PC and only one regular email account didin't allow forwarding. That was Hotmail regular. You had to have Premium paid to allow forwarding. There is an Application that you can run on your PC that will allow you to check any number of email accoounts, grab the mail in that account, and forward it to another. That Application ran resident in the background on the PC.
 
What are the differences? (no sarcasm, just wanted to know)
Technically speaking, as far as code, I am not sure.

But this is what I do know:

1) I have had Push Notifications turned on for that AP app and a few others for ever. Haven't noticed a lot of battery drain.

2) When I was using MobileMe, and had Push Email turned on, it drained the battery MUCH faster than without.

I am just about certain that Push Email takes more battery than the Push Notifications because I think the Notifications only use battery when you are getting a notification.

So, in the case of this GPush app, if they could get it working right obviously, I think it would use far less battery than if we had Push Gmail right to the Mail.app like MobileMe does.

Hope that makes sense.
 
Just tried to buy GPush and it's no longer available. Please tell me the developer took it down to do further work and not Apple.
 
Push saves battery?

Since when?

Push NOTIFICATIONS might, but Push Email is a batter HOG on this phone.

They are two separate things often confused on this forum.

I'm confused then.

I always thought that Push email has the server initiated the connection with the phone once email arrived allowing the phone just sit there and listen for the connection. Fetching email would have the phone connect to the server on occasion to check if the server has emails to be delivered.

With those assumptions I thought that push would be less of a drain on the battery. I always had excellent battery life with my Blackberries.
 
Good news Tiverias Apps pulled GPush. Here is what they said on their Twitter account.

"GPush made it to the App Store, we are aware of a server issue & we temporarily pulled the App off the store while we work on the servers."

So hopefully it will be back up soon.
 
Push saves battery?

Since when?

Push NOTIFICATIONS might, but Push Email is a batter HOG on this phone.

They are two separate things often confused on this forum.

I don't think you have a good grasp of what you are really talking about.

Depending on how many emails you get per day, push email (ala IMAP Idle) can save A LOT of battery. Imagine lets say you get an email every 3 hrs. With a normal fetch (for example set to every 15 mins), Mail will check your email 12 times in 3 hrs. With Push, your mail will be checked once. When the email arrived. Naturally, there is a persistent connection kept alive, but it is pretty more damn efficient than checking every 15 mins even if you have no emails.

Apple doesn't need to implement push notifications for Mail, because Mail already runs in the background. It just needs to enable IMAP Idle. When an email arrives, they can show a simple pop up + badge just like the SMSs app.
 
With those assumptions I thought that push would be less of a drain on the battery. I always had excellent battery life with my Blackberries.

Correct.

Push saves battery?

Since when?

Push NOTIFICATIONS might, but Push Email is a batter HOG on this phone.

They are two separate things often confused on this forum.

The confusion continues... lol.

Push Email uses less battery. In fact, the GPush uses more battery than having it be native. Why? Because, even if you turn fetching off, you still need to manually fetch the email. At this point, it is the same as having push email, but then with the addition of the app that alerts, this uses an additional 20% more battery (according to apple, whether the % is correct, it uses some time of battery) that if it were just push on the native app.

This is the reason BlackBerry devices have great battery life, it's not constantly fetching data on intervals (15min 30min, etc...), it only using battery life to push when needed. With fetching, you may not have any email and you utilize battery life checking.
 
Technically speaking, as far as code, I am not sure.

But this is what I do know:

1) I have had Push Notifications turned on for that AP app and a few others for ever. Haven't noticed a lot of battery drain.

2) When I was using MobileMe, and had Push Email turned on, it drained the battery MUCH faster than without.

I am just about certain that Push Email takes more battery than the Push Notifications because I think the Notifications only use battery when you are getting a notification.

So, in the case of this GPush app, if they could get it working right obviously, I think it would use far less battery than if we had Push Gmail right to the Mail.app like MobileMe does.

Hope that makes sense.

so completely wrong and misinformed. dear lord stop talking about stuff you have no idea about.

anyway i kinda expected this thing to happen with gpush. its from a company with no other apps out and appears to be a pretty small team. hope this doesn't end up like that certain im'ing app that just completely ripped ppl off and vanished.
 
Just got this email from the devs...

On Saturday August 8, 2009 GPush made it into the App store.* We are currently experiencing a server issue and have temporarily pulled the app from the store while we work on the problem.*This is an issue with our servers not the application and we will not need to go through the approval process again. If you have already downloaded the application, please know we are working to resolve the issue as soon as possible.

Please check back here or follow us at http://twitter.com/GPush4iPhone

Thank you for your patience and understanding,

Team GPush
*
 
It was working great for me for the first few hours. It's now working right now. I guess they're fixing the servers.

I hope this isn't another mobilechat type thing. I doubt it since mobilechat never removed the app from the app store while it was having problems. Gpush has been removed pretty quickly so they can fix it. I guess that's a good sign that the developers are more concerned about getting it right than scamming people.
 
I don't think you have a good grasp of what you are really talking about.
Well, I happen to think I have a perfect grasp of what I am talking about. I currently own four iPhones and have done extensive battery testing with PUSH Email, FETCH Email and apps with PUSH Notifications. (Again, NOT the same thing as PUSH Email.)
Depending on how many emails you get per day, push email (ala IMAP Idle) can save A LOT of battery. Imagine lets say you get an email every 3 hrs. With a normal fetch (for example set to every 15 mins), Mail will check your email 12 times in 3 hrs. With Push, your mail will be checked once. When the email arrived. Naturally, there is a persistent connection kept alive, but it is pretty more damn efficient than checking every 15 mins even if you have no emails.
I never mentioned the word FETCH anywhere. Yes, Push is not as battery draining as FETCH. FETCH is the worst of the worst.

The confusion continues... lol.
Maybe you are confused? Because I am not confused at all.

Having Mobile Me, with Push email turned on, will drain more battery than just the GPush App running. (We will talk about getting the emails later.)

The added benefit of GPush is, if you don't like the blurb that is sent with the notification, then you don't have to check or download your email at all.

To each his own.

I think this is better because I can look at the notification, then decide whether to download the email manually by opening Mail.app, OR, I can not open Mail.app and not use any more battery.

And when I had push turned on with MobileMe, my battery life was horrendous. Couldn't even go a full work day on one charge. Now, I go the whole day with charge left.

Currently, I have that AP app with push turned on 24x7, and my battery does not drain.
 
Pushmail does the exact same thing as this yet can use any email. AND ITS FAST! AND, they dont have server problems.
 
Well, I happen to think I have a perfect grasp of what I am talking about. I currently own four iPhones

LOL

Well I own five iPhones so I must know more.....

Sorry just seemed like an odd statement :p


PS: I don't own five iPhones but have been employed as an engineer for MCI, Worldcom, and Verizon.

Having Mobile Me, with Push email turned on, will drain more battery than just the GPush App running. (We will talk about getting the emails later.)

Also with MobileMe....

My understanding from what has been said is that it maintains a persistent connection with the cloud and isn't Push as in the sense RIM does.

Again I might be wrong as I'm just going off my memory which isn't always the best these days.
 
My guess as to how GPush works is that it's just using the authenticated Gmail RSS unread feed. In order to act like a true push, it would have to be polling the RSS feed every second. Imagine the server resources needed to poll the Gmail RSS feed every second for every single one of the people that bought the app. If that's how the developer is implementing it, that's the reason the server is down. If they developed it a different way (some sort of pass-thru listener or something), then disregard everything I said :D But most push or instant notification options for Gmail use RSS (Google Notifier, Mailplane, etc).
 
Correct.



The confusion continues... lol.

Push Email uses less battery. In fact, the GPush uses more battery than having it be native. Why? Because, even if you turn fetching off, you still need to manually fetch the email. At this point, it is the same as having push email, but then with the addition of the app that alerts, this uses an additional 20% more battery (according to apple, whether the % is correct, it uses some time of battery) that if it were just push on the native app.

This is the reason BlackBerry devices have great battery life, it's not constantly fetching data on intervals (15min 30min, etc...), it only using battery life to push when needed. With fetching, you may not have any email and you utilize battery life checking.


Concerning the second part of your statement. That is only part of the reason BB have great battery life.
 
I emailed them about the popup refusing login, here's what I got:

On Saturday August 8, 2009 GPush made it into the App store. We are currently experiencing a server issue and have temporarily pulled the app from the store while we work on the problem. This is an issue with our servers not the application and we will not need to go through the approval process again. If you have already downloaded the application, please know we are working to resolve the issue as soon as possible.

Please check back here or follow us at http://twitter.com/GPush4iPhone

Thank you for your patience and understanding,

Team GPush
 
LOL

Well I own five iPhones so I must know more.....

Sorry just seemed like an odd statement :p


PS: I don't own five iPhones but have been employed as an engineer for MCI, Worldcom, and Verizon.
I only said that to eliminate any thoughts of a fluke malfunctioning phone.
Also with MobileMe....

My understanding from what has been said is that it maintains a persistent connection with the cloud and isn't Push as in the sense RIM does.

Again I might be wrong as I'm just going off my memory which isn't always the best these days.
You are correct.
 
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