Gs8 oreo final released!

[grkm3]

Just a heads up the final oreo build has leaked for us galaxy phones with the 835 soc.

I'm on Verizon and loaded it no problem and man it's running so perfectly.

It's like a brand new phone!

 

[jamezr]

Just a heads up the final oreo build has leaked for us galaxy phones with the 835 soc.

I'm on Verizon and loaded it no problem and man it's running so perfectly.

It's like a brand new phone!

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Awesome! Can't wait for it to come to the Note 8! This update probably will make the S8 run faster and improve battery life too

 

[Aneres11]

I wonder why it takes so long for Samsung devices to get the latest Android OS?

Still, this is great news!

 

[grkm3]

I wonder why it takes so long for Samsung devices to get the latest Android OS?

Still, this is great news!

Believe it or not it takes a while.i was on the beta 2,3 and 4 of oreo and there were many issues with it.starting with beta 4 I felt it almost as good as 7.0 and beta 5 was finally worth using as a daily driver.

Not even 2 weeks after beta 5 we have a final non beta build.

 

[IowaLynn]

Odd you have final as I just got b5 on S8+ (factory unlocked on AT&T).

 

[grkm3]

Odd you have final as I just got b5 on S8+ (factory unlocked on AT&T).

You can get non beta also it came out 1 week after beta 5

Cra1 is first non beta build!

Here is a page with links to get it.you have to flash back to latest 7.0 official to install as it won't install on a beta build as it's an ota update that looks for latest official 7.0 to install on.

On the Verizon cra1 build they got rid of Dolby atmos so its definitely a final build as the beta had it.

https://lifehacker.com/how-to-get-the-galaxy-s8-android-8-0-oreo-update-ahead-1821878689

And a pic of the thread on red edit

 

[convergent]

I wonder why it takes so long for Samsung devices to get the latest Android OS?

Still, this is great news!

Because they don't want to go through 4 point releases to get it right, like Apple. I'd rather they take the time and get it right personally.

 

[Aneres11]

Because they don't want to go through 4 point releases to get it right, like Apple. I'd rather they take the time and get it right personally.

I guess you’re a Samsung user with that way of thinking then?!

If I had a Samsung I’d want Oreo as soon as possible, and would find it incredibly frustrating if I bought my phone in March / April and didn’t have the latest OS almost a year on...
It’s one of the many things I dislike about Samsung phones.

 

[convergent]

I guess you’re a Samsung user with that way of thinking then?!

If I had a Samsung I’d want Oreo as soon as possible, and would find it incredibly frustrating if I bought my phone in March / April and didn’t have the latest OS almost a year on...
It’s one of the many things I dislike about Samsung phones.

And what exactly are your clamoring to get in Oreo? I have seen no features in Oreo that will change my life. It is being tested. When its ready, it will be made available.

I was using Apple for several prior devices and it was annoying getting so many point releases. Then when you got a quick update, many of the Apps weren't yet updated, and if they were you had a whole pile of app updates to do too. I am not lacking any features I need at this point, so stability to me is as important as having the "latest", when the "latest" has nothing of substance in it.

My Note 8 has more usable features that provide tangible value than anything Oreo is adding, so I'll take that over having the "latest". Clearly having the latest, without regard to what the latest does for you, is most important. So go with iOS, which is the best way to always have the latest.

 

[Aneres11]

And what exactly are your clamoring to get in Oreo? I have seen no features in Oreo that will change my life. It is being tested. When its ready, it will be made available.

I was using Apple for several prior devices and it was annoying getting so many point releases. Then when you got a quick update, many of the Apps weren't yet updated, and if they were you had a whole pile of app updates to do too. I am not lacking any features I need at this point, so stability to me is as important as having the "latest", when the "latest" has nothing of substance in it.

My Note 8 has more usable features that provide tangible value than anything Oreo is adding, so I'll take that over having the "latest". Clearly having the latest, without regard to what the latest does for you, is most important. So go with iOS, which is the best way to always have the latest.

Well personally I like the shade in the notification bar for apps like Spotify etc. I also like the notification dots although I know Samsung already adds it's own notification splodge.
Adaptive icons are also pretty cool.

Also, it's clear that Samsing taking their time with updating their devices to the LATEST operating system doesn't bother you. And good for you. But I think if you were to ask 100 Samsung users if they would like Oreo at the same time as other Android devices, like the Pixels, most would say yes. Which is my point.

You can carry on enjoying Nougat though.

 

[grkm3]

Well personally I like the shade in the notification bar for apps like Spotify etc. I also like the notification dots although I know Samsung already adds it's own notification splodge.
Adaptive icons are also pretty cool.


Also, it's clear that Samsing taking their time with updating their devices to the LATEST operating system doesn't bother you. And good for you. But I think if you were to ask 100 Samsung users if they would like Oreo at the same time as other Android devices, like the Pixels, most would say yes. Which is my point.

You can carry on enjoying Nougat though.

No body has oreo yet its installed on less than 0.3% of android devices

This chart is of Jan 8 2018

 

[Aneres11]

No body has oreo yet its installed on less than 0.3% of android devices

This chart is of Jan 8 2018 View attachment 746215

Yeah I know this.
It’s one of the things about Android that I find frustrating, personally.

 

[grkm3]

Yeah I know this.
It’s one of the things about Android that I find frustrating, personally.

Google puts out the base core and it does go through about 20 updates before its prime time ready.

My nexus would have an update once a week at times and was plagued with battery issues and a whole crap load of other small issues that literally take a year to fix and by the time they are fixed the next version is out.

Samsung does it right.they put out rock solid builds and already went through 5 betas of oreo before they have a 1st non beta build.

With every update samsung does the phones get a lot faster and better and it dont need any updates for a long time other than the monthly security patches they push.

This oreo build I'm on makes my cell feel like a new phone.while every apple update slows there phones down and needs 10 updates to get it as stable as the year before.

 

[jamezr]

No body has oreo yet its installed on less than 0.3% of android devices

This chart is of Jan 8 2018 View attachment 746215

Those are horrible numbers. There no way Google is proud of those number. I wish Google had the same control Apple does as far as updates go.

 

[JaySoul]

I guess you’re a Samsung user with that way of thinking then?!

If I had a Samsung I’d want Oreo as soon as possible, and would find it incredibly frustrating if I bought my phone in March / April and didn’t have the latest OS almost a year on...
It’s one of the many things I dislike about Samsung phones.

I used to think like that and got really frustrated at Samsung's slowness...

Then they released that update for the Galaxy S5. And it bricked a lot of devices!

As long as they regularly do normal software updates, and get out Security updates quite frequently, I'm fine. I just want the phone to actually WORK.

Take your time, get Oreo 99% right straight from the first release. Look at Apple, they REALLY had a lot of issues with iOS11. Half the people I know who got it hated it for the first 2 months.

 

[Aneres11]

I used to think like that and got really frustrated at Samsung's slowness...

Then they released that update for the Galaxy S5. And it bricked a lot of devices!

As long as they regularly do normal software updates, and get out Security updates quite frequently, I'm fine. I just want the phone to actually WORK.

Take your time, get Oreo 99% right straight from the first release. Look at Apple, they REALLY had a lot of issues with iOS11. Half the people I know who got it hated it for the first 2 months.

Yeah see I don’t get the  comparison. If I’m talking about Android Oreo, iOS doesn’t really factor into my thinking. I’m not really comparing those operating systems, or how timely they’re updated.

I’m more about the fact that Oreo is available on other Android devices, yet Samsung, probably the biggest seller of Android devices, seem to be one of the last. It’s all I’m saying. I agree it needs to be right etc but does it really take 8-9 months?

I work for a bank and I monitor social media for reasons I won’t bore you with. When Oreo hit, I put together a report based on some issues that consumers were having who had updated or were in the Beta.
The mobile / digital team couldn’t care less. They said come back to us in March time when Samsung get it as over 80% of Android customers using mobile banking are Samsung users.

I just think they could be quicker getting it right and getting it on devices sooner, but that could just be me.

 

[IowaLynn]

b6 is being rolled out, likely the release candidate build assuming nothing turns up.

 

[grkm3]

b6 is being rolled out, likely the release candidate build assuming nothing turns up.

Can you post the build ?

I have a feeling it's the same one Verizon put out last week without the Dolby atmos support

 

[IowaLynn]

b6 is as usual rolling out in UK before US. And I got b5 2ZQLK a week ago.

 

[grkm3]

b6 is as usual rolling out in UK before US. And I got b5 2ZQLK a week ago.

The build I posted is newer as those are still beta builds.they have the letter z and when installing they say they are beta builds.

The non beta build starts with the letter c and is cra1 meaning first non beta build.

Does that latest beta still have Dolby atmos? The cra1 build completely got rid of Dolby

Also the cra1 build was never intended to be released early.it got leaked out by accident on Samsung's servers

Edit this is nuts cra5 just got leaked also.someone is leaking them lol

Verizon won't Ota those until next year !
[doublepost=1515698926][/doublepost]Looks like 2 more leaks after cra1

They put another beta in between 2 final builds.

 

[convergent]

Those are horrible numbers. There no way Google is proud of those number. I wish Google had the same control Apple does as far as updates go.

They are and they aren't. Android has about 85-90% of the market. Much of that is Android "feature phones" that people get free and are never going to update. My father law has one. Apple only makes flagship phones, and they also have total control and annoy the users into upgrading whether they want to or not. Given the marketshare differences, that chart tells me that there are probably way more Android phones on the latest release (before Oreo) than iPhones.

I am very comfortable with the way Samsung is proceeding. Get it right, then roll it out. I don't want a half dozen point releases. There is absolutely nothing in Oreo that I care about and if I never get it I wouldn't care that much.

 

[jamezr]

They are and they aren't. Android has about 85-90% of the market. Much of that is Android "feature phones" that people get free and are never going to update. My father law has one. Apple only makes flagship phones, and they also have total control and annoy the users into upgrading whether they want to or not. Given the marketshare differences, that chart tells me that there are probably way more Android phones on the latest release (before Oreo) than iPhones.

I am very comfortable with the way Samsung is proceeding. Get it right, then roll it out. I don't want a half dozen point releases. There is absolutely nothing in Oreo that I care about and if I never get it I wouldn't care that much.

I disagree.....I think Google should have more control over Android updates...including security patches. I think Android phones should be on the latest or the second latest OS version.
I think Google should push out security patches without carrier or OEM being in the middle. As long as the patch doesn't interfere with the Android "skin" OEMs have installed.
This will help create a Android standard user experience across all makes and models. This will also ensure that Android as a whole is patched and secure to the latest patches. There is no excuse for not having the latest security patches....none.....

No matter if you don't know anyone that has been effected by a security exploit or not. Then just how will the end user know if they have been exploited? Their phone could be leaking all the information on the phone to the dark web and the user will never know......

Sorry..I work in IT security and there is no excuse for not being patched for the latest exploits and vulnerabilities....
It is irresponsible and negligent to the consumers who buy the products.

This applies to all phones...no matter if they are flagship or a budget devices. They should all get security patches and OS updates. Then to be honest the budget devices need to have the same effort to be protected as more expensive devices. The customers that buy lower cost phones can ill afford to have financial information leaked from a known...un patched exploit.

 

[Klyster]

My Note 8 is on December security patch.
For Samsung, that's not too bad lol.

But I agree with the sentiment that its the security patch updates that are more pressing than the OS update.
I didn't care a few years ago when I didn't really use the phone for payments and I was a solitary me, by myself.
Now I have a family and use my phone for payments, I care more about security.
Exploits seem more sophisticated, why take chances?
I don't care if it's an security update every day or week, as long as there is one.
I'm so glad they are able to do security patches separately from the OS though, that would bug me if it were a full system redo each time.

And yeah, just because a phone is cheap, there's no excuse, cheap phones can still be used by people with heaps of cash, I know quite a few well off people who use cheap phones.

As for Oreo, I'm not too fussed as long as it improves my phone and doesn't bottle anything.

My Note 8 still runs like the beast I purchased, any performance increases will just be a bonus.
I can't think of much I want more out of my phone?

I do know I like the Samsung UX and I'm not at all interested in a "Google" experience, that's what Pixels and such are for, but they're not for me.

 

[IowaLynn]

I disagree.....I think Google should have more control over Android updates...including security patches. I think Android phones should be on the latest or the second latest OS version.
I think Google should push out security patches without carrier or OEM being in the middle. As long as the patch doesn't interfere with the Android "skin" OEMs have installed.
This will help create a Android standard user experience across all makes and models. This will also ensure that Android as a whole is patched and secure to the latest patches. There is no excuse for not having the latest security patches....none.....

No matter if you don't know anyone that has been effected by a security exploit or not. Then just how will the end user know if they have been exploited? Their phone could be leaking all the information on the phone to the dark web and the user will never know......

Sorry..I work in IT security and there is no excuse for not being patched for the latest exploits and vulnerabilities....
It is irresponsible and negligent to the consumers who buy the products.

This applies to all phones...no matter if they are flagship or a budget devices. They should all get security patches and OS updates. Then to be honest the budget devices need to have the same effort to be protected as more expensive devices. The customers that buy lower cost phones can ill afford to have financial information leaked from a known...un patched exploit.

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[LIVEFRMNYC]

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Unfortunately, that doesn't apply to the GS8, but only phones that are released with Oreo and up.