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HenryDJP

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If $9.99 translates to £9.99 in the UK, then no. I'm not excited. I'll keep using Spotify.

If they allow playlists and albums be be imported from Spotify, then I might be tempted to stream given it'll be a native and more integrated app.
While that would be great I don't see how this could work perfectly seeing as it's not guaranteed that both Spotify and Music will have the same library.
 

valleian

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I'm really excited too, it's pretty much a steal for all the music and content you're getting. I understand that Spotify has student pricing, so I'd get it for about half the cost of Apple Music, but for double the price, you get double the music! And we all know what kind of power Apple has, so I expect it to get even better as time goes on. Apple seems really ambitious about this and wants this to succeed, so why not give it a whirl anyway? 3 free months?!?!? That's amazing, and it's all integrated into one Music app, so there's even better implementation, the UI of the Music app looks top notch (that's more than can be said about Spotify), plus on top of all of that, the integration into iOS is probably it's killer app (if we exclude the vastness of the iTunes Library), so that another app I don't need now.

Off topic, but we also get a redesigned Music app out of this, so this can be counted as a win for non-streaming people/people content with their current subscription. I know I hear enough moaning about the stock Music app on a daily basis from these forums...
 
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While that would be great I don't see how this could work perfectly seeing as it's not guaranteed that both Spotify and Music will have the same library.

You don't see how it would work, or don't see how it should match perfectly? Best efforts works for me.
 

HenryDJP

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You don't see how it would work, or don't see how it should match perfectly? Best efforts works for me.

Yeah, so say for example (while this is more or less a joke) your Spotify playlist had a bunch of Taylor Swift songs and then you import your whole playlist to Music that doesn't have Taylor Swift. In this situation importing playlists won't be a perfect match which will end up with a bunch of lost songs. I actually do hope Apple offers the ability to import from Spotify but unless both companies offer the same music it may not be a satisfying experience and people should be prepared for that.
 

matrix07

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Every. Single. Song on iTunes is going to be available for us to listen to for just $9.99. I don't know about you but iTunes has every song I would want to listen to and more, whereas my current subscription is limited with many albums having bizarre gaps of missing songs because for some reason they aren't available in my country (UK).

I am excited : )

Plus all the new music that will come to iTunes in the future.. :yummy:
 

Paradoxally

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Yeah, so say for example (while this is more or less a joke) your Spotify playlist had a bunch of Taylor Swift songs and then you import your whole playlist to Music that doesn't have Taylor Swift. In this situation importing playlists won't be a perfect match which will end up with a bunch of lost songs. I actually do hope Apple offers the ability to import from Spotify but unless both companies offer the same music it may not be a satisfying experience and people should be prepared for that.

Your Spotify playlist won't have a bunch of Taylor songs because Taylor isn't even on that platform. :p

The thing is, if a playlist has lost tracks, I can buy/download what's missing with AM, and it will actually go ahead and upload those local tracks so I can stream (just like iTunes Match does now).

With Spotify, you can sync local tracks to your iPhone, but it's a more cumbersome workaround. And you'll have to save all those local tracks offline with Spotify, you can't stream those (so if you don't have much space left on your device, this is a big issue).
 

6836838

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Yeah, so say for example (while this is more or less a joke) your Spotify playlist had a bunch of Taylor Swift songs and then you import your whole playlist to Music that doesn't have Taylor Swift. In this situation importing playlists won't be a perfect match which will end up with a bunch of lost songs. I actually do hope Apple offers the ability to import from Spotify but unless both companies offer the same music it may not be a satisfying experience and people should be prepared for that.

Yeah, I get it. So best efforts. That's fine with me.
 

matrix07

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Looks that way. Apple would have surely mentioned The Beatles as a selling point. They also would have made it clear that anything in the iTunes Store would be available in Apple Music. I think this is the biggest misconception and a potential deal breaker for some to switch from Spotify.

How you come to that conclusion? It's unlikely to have "less" songs than Spotify.
 

HenryDJP

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Your Spotify playlist won't have a bunch of Taylor songs because Taylor isn't even on that platform. :p

The thing is, if a playlist has lost tracks, I can buy/download what's missing with AM, and it will actually go ahead and upload those local tracks so I can stream (just like iTunes Match does now).

With Spotify, you can sync local tracks to your iPhone, but it's a more cumbersome workaround. And you'll have to save all those local tracks offline with Spotify, you can't stream those (so if you don't have much space left on your device, this is a big issue).

Well yeah, in the beginning of my post you quoted I did say it was a "joke" more or less followed by the Taylor Swift comment. It's amazing how she's got so much power in such a short time being in the business. I wonder if her head has swollen at all? :D

Of course it won't be a major problem for people to merge playlists from Spotify over to Apple but you know how it is (especially with some people here on this forum), people will merge their playlist from Spotify to Music then find out something wasn't available on Music and come here to complain, instead of accepting the inevitable that nothing is perfect. :)
 

Ferc Kast

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So, here's my question about the newly branded Apple Music: is it just the Beats1 service that has the subscription fee attached, or will iTunes Radio now have too? Just wondering since I use iTunes Radio on a regular basis, and would love to continue using it for free if possible.
 

bushido

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i will check it out to see if it has any impact on my battery life cuz with spotify i can literally watch the percentage drop
 

Ke1ington

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So, here's my question about the newly branded Apple Music: is it just the Beats1 service that has the subscription fee attached, or will iTunes Radio now have too? Just wondering since I use iTunes Radio on a regular basis, and would love to continue using it for free if possible.

That was a concern of mine as well.

My hopes are that we can continue listening with ads at no charge in addition to the subscription service.
 

ThatsMeRight

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So, here's my question about the newly branded Apple Music: is it just the Beats1 service that has the subscription fee attached, or will iTunes Radio now have too? Just wondering since I use iTunes Radio on a regular basis, and would love to continue using it for free if possible.
I believe iTunes Radio (and the Beats1 Radio Station) remain free.
 

_Refurbished_

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How you come to that conclusion? It's unlikely to have "less" songs than Spotify.

I came to this conclusion from postings by Bloomberg and The Verge.

Apple didn't mention that the entire iTunes Library would be included, which would be a major selling point for someone looking to switch services. I don't think anyone thinks Apple Music will have less songs than Spotify. That wouldn't make any sense.
 

placidity44

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Spotify has been absolutely great to me. Haven't bought music or downloaded anything in ages. I'll leave spotify for apple music because of the integration with iOS, every itunes song available, radio and 14.99 for a family membership.
 

daijholt

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If it is really the full library I will switch for sure. I have been kinda trying to get away from spotify since it took them like 3-4 month to update their app for the iPhone 6 resolution...
Spotify's app is the most irritating thing I've ever used. I can save an album easily to my library, but what if I don't like it and want to remove it? Click the remove button?

Not so. I can remove each song individually, or I have to search for the artist, then find the album, then tap the "green save" button to turn it grey to remove it. This is especially annoying when an artist has multiple albums of the same name on spotify (deluxe editions and whatnot) which, for some bizarre reason, spotify choose to label exactly the same. Ive no idea if its deluxe or not until i view the track list and see the bonus tracks at the bottom.

The quality of the streaming service they provide is generally great, but good riddance to both spotify and deezer for their complete lack of common sense in app design.
 

matrix07

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I came to this conclusion from postings by Bloomberg and The Verge.

Apple didn't mention that the entire iTunes Library would be included, which would be a major selling point for someone looking to switch services. I don't think anyone thinks Apple Music will have less songs than Spotify. That wouldn't make any sense.

But you said "I think this is the biggest misconception and a potential deal breaker for some to switch from Spotify." which equally didn't make sense. Why it's a potential deal breaker when Apple Music has more or less the same library, the same single user pricing, but everything else could be miles better due to tight integration with the OSs?
Plus, any paid switchers will save their fee for three months.

What to lose?
 
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bigjnyc

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I wonder what will happen if you download a bunch of songs for offline listening and then cancel your subscription. will Apple delete those songs from your device....
 
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