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Technarchy

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May 21, 2012
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Very well put

Sadly most apple fans do point to sales vs Samsung but really that's not the whole picture

For what it's worth even if Apple sold a trillion iPhones I would never give up my S6 for a iPhone 6 because I don't think the iPhone 6 is a good product.

Not for my needs at least.
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
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the real question is why they cant get more market share.
www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp

iphone 6 plus was a savior for apples market share. but where are all new customers? and apple has no competitor selling ios-devices.

why sales are fine? clever marketing and they can sell the same device twice for you. they do a phone now, it's a new, there is just some new thing(s) to call it a new, better, amazing phone. (6plus was actually something new) But, they dont put all things at the same time. they save something for the next model. A year later they have a new, amazing phone, which is basicly the same as the old one (e.g. 5 and 5s) but it is enough differend to call it as a new, amazing thing. if there isnt nothing, they dont hesitate to call a new air-thin volume button as a amazing volume button and people are sold. it is already a year ago when they bought the phone, they are ready to buy a new one! you dont need to do much, just tiny changes.

think about air and air2. what is the main difference? 2gig ram (and touchID) why didnt they put 2gig ram to air in the first place? because they needed a device which they can sell again a year later. 2gig ram was amazing new thing for air. then think about the difference between 5 and 5s. just a new processor and touchID. that was enough.

it is not hard to quess that in their next phone there is a 2gig ram. why they didnt put that to iphone6? they needed to save the ram for the next model to sell it again a year later when people are ready to buy again. trust me there is this new amazing 2gig ram which revolutionizes the ios experience with ios9.

it is a pretty clever marketing that they have managed to create: you really dont expect to get much from apple, but just enough to buy it. when samsung for example announces a new phone, you are always expecting something real revolutionary or you are disappointed, because you have got used to it that samsung gives you always something new.

They definitely hold back features strategically. Could they have put 2gb ram and force touch into the 6/6+? I would bet they could have easily, but saved it for the S. I don't doubt other companies do exactly the same thing, but Samsung in its desperation seems to be pulling out all the stops. I'm curious what the S6 plus is all about though, and what they held back for it. I'm still baffled how they don't think they piss off consumers releasing an update for a flagship phone 4-6 months after release, but this is the OEM that has dozens and dozens of different models. I'll bet if they only sold 2 flagships, a S6 edge same as today's offering, and a S6 edge plus phablets with a stylus, they would sell a LOT more. They could keep a variety of lower end, cheaper android handsets, but put all their marketing, fabrication, sourcing and R&D into those flagships similar to how Apple does.
 

spinedoc77

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Just to correct that...

People keep making statements like that but they are flawed analogies because they do not bare in mind that the $10,000 price tag is not about the device itself - after all it's same tech hardware as cheaper model - but it's the cost of the gold itself which is a high priced commodity.

There are plenty of shops in Dubai who will sell you a Galaxy Edge in 'Real Gold' for up-to $10k asking too.

You are the consumer, if you want an Apple watch (I don't) then you are not given a sole 10k SKU.

So these false analogies people keep making in forums (not just here) are missing key information based on the price of commodities.

Whilst the Apple watch may date - arguably the 10k gold version will retain high value based on its gold weight alone.

I agree with you, of course precious metal has an intrinsic value separate from whatever it encases. But whatever is encased has an intrinsic value as well. You can gold encase an apple watch, or you can gold encase a hand made Rolex watch. Take away the gold and you have 2 very different intrinsic values. The value of that gold plated apple watch is 99.9% related to the gold itself, with that .01% depreciating sharply the longer you own it and the technology gets outdated. In the case of the Rolex the value of the watch minus the gold appreciates in value substantially.

Of course there is no equivalent to smartphones as there are "high end" cell phone makers at this time.
 
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