Guy who hacked the iPhone: Sellout?

[Diviant]

The guy who's now all over the news for hacking the iPhone seems like a pretty big sellout to me, and not very hacker-like at all. True hackers do what they do for themselves and the user-base, not to get all over the news and make a quick buck. This kid is flaunting his "1337 hacking abilities" all over the news, and it's obvious he was not the only contributor to this project. I'll be dollars to donuts that he contributed only a small part to the development of the hack, and is taking all the credit.

I'm very disappointed.

 

[altruisticbeing]

quick buck?

singular? how about $100m on ebay for his efforts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230164884672

 

[7on]

singular? how about $100m on ebay for his efforts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230164884672

I am trying to get a hold of eBay right now as I am sure many of these bids are fraudulent. Please do not bid if you do not intend to buy.

one character

 

[D1G1T4L]

Who is he selling out too? Does it matter? The videos I've seen he has thanked everyone on the team. They do need someone to speak on their behalf.

 

[Canuck4]

Usually hackers stay away from the spotlight of the media, this guy seems like an attention seeker....

 

[D1G1T4L]

I love how we stereotype hackers as someone who doesn't want attention.

 

[Canuck4]

In most cases, you dont see the dude that hacked windows vista and such on the news usually

 

[D1G1T4L]

In most cases, you dont see the dude that hacked windows vista and such on the news usually

They aren't the first..........yet oddly we all know who Kevin Mitnick is. Yes not the first but first to be heavily chased.

Putting a hack out for vista or XP is nothing. Now the OS X wifi hack we did hear alot about didn't we

What about the misdirect flaw on the iPhone. Yup heard about that also.

The first is usually pretty proud.

 

[Canuck4]

True, but do we hear just about the hack or the hackers name and face on TV?
And wouldnt they be liable for lawsuits by big companys if they alter/hack their products to be used illegally?
I wouldnt want to risk it

 

[D1G1T4L]

True, but do we hear just about the hack or the hackers name and face on TV?
And wouldnt they be liable for lawsuits by big companys if they alter/hack their products to be used illegally?
I wouldnt want to risk it

What law is being broken?

 

[wako]

I dont think this guy is selling out at all. The guy (or actually team) DEVELOPED a software and they are now wanting to sell it. What is the difference between them and Apple not wanting to give out iWork or OSX out for free? Nothing.

Just because the guy (or team) made a hacking tool doesnt mean it has to be free. Sellout? No, a guy trying to make a living or trying to make a buck? yeah....


And what law is being broken here? DMCA probably...

 

[Kamera RAWr]

I did not see the coverage where he appears to be taking all the credit as some of you have suggested, but I have seen video where he gave credit to the members of the team. Why should we hate on him for selling the one iPhone? Surely that's fair enough. Perhaps he even plans to share the proceeds amongs his partners.

 

[Canuck4]

I dont know, Im sure big companys like Apple, Microsoft etc.. could go after individuals hacking their products? No?
Cause in the end its costing them money.

What law is being broken?

 

[D1G1T4L]

I dont know, Im sure big companys like Apple, Microsoft etc.. could go after individuals hacking their products? No?
Cause in the end its costing them money.

Would go after them how? Have them arrested? What for?

 

[Canuck4]

Lawsuit maybe?

 

[StealthRider]

And what law is being broken here? DMCA probably...

Nope - the ability to unlock cellphones is specifically protected under the current terms of the DMCA.

Hey, the guy put in a lot of work, and developed a product that's useful to people. Why shouldn't he get paid?

 

[D1G1T4L]

Lawsuit maybe?

What would be the grounds?

 

[phungy]

Can it go any higher than 99,999,999?

 

[Sobe]

I thought hackers were routinely hired by software and security companies for big money.

 

[/dev/toaster]

I am going to laugh my ass off at him when his house is raided next week and hes arrested for DMCA violations.

He is so asking for it ...

 

[jecapaga]

I thought hackers were routinely hired by software and security companies for big money.

No, those would be lawyers.

 

[wako]

Nope - the ability to unlock cellphones is specifically protected under the current terms of the DMCA.

Doesnt seem like it now since AT&T is threatening to take legal action for "copyright infringement and illegal software dissemination."

 

[StealthRider]

Doesnt seem like it now since AT&T is threatening to take legal action for "copyright infringement and illegal software dissemination."

Well then they're going to get smacked down, as they should.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061124-8280.html

 

[zap2]

Nope - the ability to unlock cellphones is specifically protected under the current terms of the DMCA.

Well yes, but AT&T/Apple might be able to get around it.

DMCA protects ones right to unlock his/her "for the sole purpose of lawfully connecting to a wireless telephone communication network"

But this guys sole purpose isn't to connect to a cell phone network. Its also to make $$

(read more about that issue here http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/24/know-your-rights-is-it-illegal-to-unlock-my-iphone/)

 

[StealthRider]

On the other hand, he hasn't started selling it yet - they don't have any reason to sue until Monday