There was time, way back when, that I might have agreed with this sentiment. Now, I see no benefits. It's literally poison for the mind, imo.
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Hackers Threaten to Release Reddit Data Unless API Changes Are Rolled Back
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wanha
macrumors 68030
Interesting.
While I don't disagree that social media has a lot of drawbacks and is probably a net negative for society, I find - for example - the ability to get multiple informed perspectives on an unfolding real-world event in a matter of seconds to be incredibly valuable.
Even the best expert in the world can only provide you with one perspective, so to easily and cheaply get access to multiple informed perspectives is amazing.
laptech
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If Reddit does IPO then in my opinion expect it to change the way it handles user accounts because reddit has ad's at the current moment and if these ad's are not making reddit enough money then where is the next biggest source of revenue? yep, the users. reddit has millions upon millions of users just waiting to have their data harvested but it would need reddit to change it's user accounts to prevent people creating anonymous accounts. Just think of all that user data for the selling, it would make reddit a fortune selling it to data marketers, universities, advertisers and data analytics companies. If reddit were to go down that route, it would also make them more of a prime target for hackers because hackers would be licking their lips at such a prospect, millions and millions of user data ripe for harvesting and selling on the black market.
jonnysods
macrumors G3
rhett7660
macrumors G5
Nothing like snarky comments about world events to gather and harvest karma points! Now granted, not all are that way, but there is a lot!!!
I stopped using reddit awhile ago and I am glad I did.
zilchfox
macrumors 6502
wanha
macrumors 68030
Yeah Reddit was never my cup of tea either, I've always preferred Quora and Twitter (although for very different purposes)
mjs916
macrumors 65816
“any and all retribution”? I could see maybe losing a lot of users or money, but ANY and ALL? What if some deranged person took it upon themselves to physically harm him, you’d be ok with that over this?
I don’t get how people support this hack. Sure, Reddit is the bad guy for pulling the rug and charging an astronomical amount for it back, that can’t possibly be sustained by any developers but they have every right. Users should simply take these 30 days to organize and find a new home.
My account will be closed on July 1st.
Apollo has 1.3 million active monthly users. Reddit has over a billion. Apollo didn't make reddit so popular.
laptech
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Is there any evidence of this? I've seen it mentioned in a post on a different thread about reddit and no evidence was given there either, just someone saying the same thing you are. I've just spend the last 1hr searching the internet and cannot find anything hence why my question.
The reason of him being a mod is very important given the blackout situation because being a mod/ex mod would give him insight into what it is like to be a mod and yet not a single journalist writing about him has mentioned about him being being a mod of a banned subreddit because given the current public focus of reddit right now, such information is clearly public information worthy but yet I've only seen the accusation of him being a mod of a banned subreddit here in MR. Maybe I am not putting the correct search words into the search browsers.
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Hacking and ransoming are in many ways forms of kidnapping. I have always believed that they should be treated harshly as such, including in extreme cases, as capital crimes.
BigMcGuire
macrumors G4
Here... just because you asked, which is the first step - https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/06/api-pricing-protests-caused-reddit-to-crash-for-3-hours/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...ly-paid-amid-api-price-protest-plans-layoffs/
"Reddit will charge $0.24 per 1,000 requests or $12,000 for 50 million. For comparison, Imgur charges $500 per month for 7.5 million requests per month or $10,000 monthly for 150 million requests per month, and Twitter charges $42,000 for 50 million tweets." (First Link)
"Selig said Reddit is charging $12,000 for 50 million requests, compared to $166 for Imgur. " (Second Link)
This was all over MSM weeks ago...
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BigMcGuire
macrumors G4
Your definition of cesspool is very different than most peoples... lol.
While Reddit has some great places, it has more "cesspools" than Macrumors has ever had/has. You don't have MSM calling out Macrumors for allowing blatant racism, or child .... or NSFW Hardcore threads...
Or you just trying to get attention with a statement like that? 😛.
If this is the case how is Huffman getting away with publicly defaming the developer of Apollo, RIF and Infinity based on complete lies?
I don't read MSM news.
So, reddit is charging more than Imgur, but less than Twitter. Doesn't seem so outrageous.
psac
macrumors 6502a
No personal knowledge of this, but I've it said that yes, technically he was, but only because at that time, a third party could make someone else a mod of a subreddit without their consent. So someone had made him a mod after the public scrutiny already hit about that sub. So supposedly the real answer on this is "not really."
No one is against them charging money for API access. Its the absurd pricing which is in question here. I respect Twitter and Musk far more than Reddit and Huffman because Musk outright came out and said he wanted third party apps gone. Huffman states he does not want Reddit to be like Twitter and he wants to work with third party devs but behind the scenes is doing the same thing Musk did
The overwhelming majority are just consumers of content. The users of third part apps are power users of Reddit and moderators who are entirely responsible for user generated content and keeping the subreddit free of spam and unproductive content. The official app lacks the features and the visual design which enabled the said content to be produced and moderated. Without the unpaid efforts of the moderators, every subreddit would become a cesspool. Forcing these guys away and installing puppets of the Reddit admin also wouldn't work because the people who made content just wouldn't accept these new mods.
The minority is what was responsible for the content being produced and the majority do not have the entitlement to expect the producers and moderators of content to just follow Reddit like a dog.
BigMcGuire
macrumors G4
Well then I envy you about your MSM comment. While my consumption of MSM has significantly declined over the last 7 years (because I believe it has declined itself significantly) I still check out WSJ, ArsTechnica, Economist, and a local news station here where I live.
As for your comment about excessive API thread calls cost - I'm reading that Reddit is pricing their API more than double the revenue they make per user.
Reddit will charge hefty fees to the many third-party apps that access its data
According to one developer, Reddit will charge $12,000 for 50 million API requests, a high price relative to many peers.
"The company will charge $12,000 for 50 million API requests, a high price relative to many of its peers."
I do not vouch for this site, I tried doing some research on average API calls: https://nordicapis.com/how-expensive-is-an-api-call/
https://cloud.google.com/api-gateway/pricing - Obviously not really applicable cuz we're talking Cloud Storage here but just for observation:
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cocky jeremy
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A billion.. If you count bots, maybe. And I didn't say ONLY Apollo. I said third party apps.
WarmWinterHat
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I use some social media (only Instagram, at the moment), but I use it follow people I personally know. I don't use it for news, or to follow influencers or streamers. If they aren't in my contact list (on my phone), I don't want to see them.
I truly cannot understand how people who use an app feel entitled to it. You're not! We are users, we do not own any single social media app, be it Twitter, Facebook, Tik Tok or Reddit. We might disagree with how they are managed or the changes they introduce, and it's up to you to use or not use if not in compliance, but you cannot and should not forced said apps to change to your particular liking. That's not the way...
bigjnyc
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Or..... you can just stay off them? And let others who do find them useful.... use them.... Or should we just go ahead and get rid of everything in the world that you don't like or don't personally find useful?
WarmWinterHat
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There is something to be said for the massive negative effects of social media on society, and individuals.