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Has anyone tried playing a ATV2 preset encoded movie on an ATV1 (using the 23.9 framerate)?

I would also like to know the answer to this.

Thanks!
 
I really like Handbrake.. i use it to rip dvd's of television programs so i can watch them on my ipod. What would be the best setting to rip dvd's to watch them on my television? I'm looking for the best quality with a smaller filesize.. any help would be appreciated.. thanks
 
I really like Handbrake.. i use it to rip dvd's of television programs so i can watch them on my ipod. What would be the best setting to rip dvd's to watch them on my television? I'm looking for the best quality with a smaller filesize.. any help would be appreciated.. thanks

I'm ripping them with the new ATV 2 preset, and I think it's great. Very good quality, and the file size is decent (roughly 1.5GB for a 2 hour movie, or thereabouts).

Edit: Actually, just under 1.7GB for 2 hours.
 
Great job on the update. The DTS transfer is a very welcome addition. Thanks for all the hard work.
 
I'm ripping them with the new ATV 2 preset, and I think it's great. Very good quality, and the file size is decent (roughly 1.5GB for a 2 hour movie, or thereabouts).

Edit: Actually, just under 1.7GB for 2 hours.

Thanks!
 
HUge audio quality drop when going from dts to ac3

Well, you are converting one lossy format to another. That said, I haven't experienced what I would characterize as a "huge quality drop" in my DTS -> AC3 conversions. If I have to convert DTS, I always use 640kbps AC3.
 
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I'm ripping them with the new ATV 2 preset, and I think it's great. Very good quality, and the file size is decent (roughly 1.5GB for a 2 hour movie, or thereabouts).

Edit: Actually, just under 1.7GB for 2 hours.


I've tried ripping a DVD(HEAT 2hr 43mins) using the new Apple TV2 preset and the only application that can play the ripped m4v is the latest version of VLC!

It imports no problem to iTunes and opens up but the video freezes and the sound continues.

The ripped handbrake file is 1.78GB

any ideas?

thanks
 
I've tried ripping a DVD(HEAT 2hr 43mins) using the new Apple TV2 preset and the only application that can play the ripped m4v is the latest version of VLC!

It imports no problem to iTunes and opens up but the video freezes and the sound continues.

The ripped handbrake file is 1.78GB

any ideas?

thanks

I'm guessing it's your computer. What are you using?
 
Love the new release, the DTS to ac-3 conversion is a great feature. The only problem that I have is that this does not work with other multi-channel formats (Dolby Digital Plus, WMA Pro, Dolby TruHD), although Handbrake can decode the streams but it only gives me a 2-channel aac track. Does anyone have a solution for this, as I have a lot of HD DVDs lying around that feature Dolby Digital Plus audio. The strange thing is that Handbrake let's me select the ac-3 conversion on each of these formats but the resulting file has no sign of an ac-3 track...
 
How does this compare in terms of quality compared to say remuxing the MKV to an MP4?
 
I've previously used the universal preset for my encodes, i'm a complete noob to this and not too much of a scrutanise every pixel kind of guy, i have an iphone 4, ipad and apple tv2, is is much better to use the apple tv 2 preset than the universal or is the difference too small to notice (NB ripping standard definition DVD's)
 
I've previously used the universal preset for my encodes, i'm a complete noob to this and not too much of a scrutanise every pixel kind of guy, i have an iphone 4, ipad and apple tv2, is is much better to use the apple tv 2 preset than the universal or is the difference too small to notice (NB ripping standard definition DVD's)

There is a HUGE difference between the universal preset and the ATV2 preset for HD content and an easily noticeable difference for SD stuff like DVDs. Since you have the iPhone 4, iPad, and ATV2 I don't see any reason for you to use universal other than smaller file sizes but since the ATV2 preset uses High Profile which is a more efficient encoding method than what the Universal preset uses, you get more "bang for your buck".
 
TY for the help, i've asked people before and they've just come back with use this or that preset, change the ugamaflip rating to -84 googols but make sure the space time flux capacitor is reversed so not to create a paradox of 24534 rhens and if you don't your MBP will swallow itself in the blink of an eye and your left with a vista machine!
 
TY for the help, i've asked people before and they've just come back with use this or that preset, change the ugamaflip rating to -84 googols but make sure the space time flux capacitor is reversed so not to create a paradox of 24534 rhens and if you don't your MBP will swallow itself in the blink of an eye and your left with a vista machine!

They were right. That's another route to go. :D
 
TY for the help, i've asked people before and they've just come back with use this or that preset, change the ugamaflip rating to -84 googols but make sure the space time flux capacitor is reversed so not to create a paradox of 24534 rhens and if you don't your MBP will swallow itself in the blink of an eye and your left with a vista machine!

Too Friggin' funny! :D

Like you, I'm a total noob to handbrake. In the past (on a PC) I used AnyDVD but my rips are/were TS_Video files. I am almost finished setting up a ATV Gen1 with Boxee/XMBC/Navi-X. Trying to figure out how to point it to an external HDD that's connected to my mac.

But anyway... I have two questions; first, if I use ATV2 presets for handbrake, how does that affect the movie because I thought all DVDs are produced with 24FPS not 30? Second question... can you burn a copy of a handbraked movie that will play in a portable DVD player? Taking grandkids on a roadtrip soon, and with a 2 & 6 year old, no way they are handling the original DVDs in the back seat LOL! Get my drift?
 
But anyway... I have two questions; first, if I use ATV2 presets for handbrake, how does that affect the movie because I thought all DVDs are produced with 24FPS not 30?

The ATV2 preset limits the fps to no more than 30. If it's already below 30, it'll keep that fps. So if the source is 24 fps, it will say 24 fps.

Second question... can you burn a copy of a handbraked movie that will play in a portable DVD player? Taking grandkids on a roadtrip soon, and with a 2 & 6 year old, no way they are handling the original DVDs in the back seat LOL! Get my drift?

You can, but DVD's generally take mpeg2, so it'll end up being converted again by the DVD software. You probably won't notice much quality difference (the kids definitely won't), but it can be time-consuming.

I'm not sure since I haven't done it, but it may be faster to make the DVD copy from the original DVD if you want to do a lot of them. (Most DVD software make this easy.)
 
Since you have the iPhone 4, iPad, and ATV2 I don't see any reason for you to use universal other than smaller file sizes but since the ATV2 preset uses High Profile which is a more efficient encoding method than what the Universal preset uses, you get more "bang for your buck".

Am I understanding you correctly that the ATV2 preset will play correctly in the iPhone4, iPad and ATV2?

If those are the only devices I want my media to be played on, would the only potential benefit of the Universal preset be smaller file sizes?

Also, will the ATV2 preset play on the original ATV?
 
Am I missing something or does HandBrake have a menu selection for the exact settings perhaps depicting the output file size or associating it with ATV1 or ATV2 or whatever? Or does one just select the slider and bring it up to 100%. Sorry... just not getting it.
 
With apologies if I am jumping in here...

Am I understanding you correctly that the ATV2 preset will play correctly in the iPhone4, iPad and ATV2?

Yes, as all three devices can take up to 30fps. However, for the iPhone4, you are wasting storage space as the file is at a resolution higher than the iPhone can display, whereas a file encoded specifically for the iPhone will be at its maximum resolution and therefore smaller.


If those are the only devices I want my media to be played on, would the only potential benefit of the Universal preset be smaller file sizes?

Yes. But you will have a file that has been averaged down, so it will still be bigger than a file encoded specifically for the iPhone, and still at a lower resolution than a file encoded specifically for the ATV2 and iPad. I.e. the worst of both worlds.


Also, will the ATV2 preset play on the original ATV?

Possibly, but not for certain. ATV2 can handle up to 30fps, whereas the ATV1 is limited to 25fps. Most BD movies, for example, are at 23.xxx fps, so both versions of the ATV would be able to play a 720p encode of that movie. BUT, the ATV2 preset in Handbrake will allow the frame rate to go up to 30fps if that is the rate on the source file - and the resultant encode will be too much for the ATV1 to handle.


FWIW, I have an iPhone 3GS, an iPad and some ATV1s. I make two versions of each rip - one using the ATV preset and one using the iPhone / iPod preset. I opt for iTunes to feed the "HD" version to the ATV and iPad, with the "SD" version going to the iPhone.
 
I have a lot of devices but I'll choose ATV2 as my master and use it for everything else. If it doesn't play then I'll use the ATV2 file as the source to encode down to that lesser format.

I also know this is being picky but I like renaming my .m4v files to .mp4. I still will import them into iTunes but I like having them in the finder as .mp4s to default with the Quicktime Player. Until I can tag my video correctly, I prefer having all my video accessible from the finder until I am ready to import it into iTunes.
 
I also know this is being picky but I like renaming my .m4v files to .mp4. I still will import them into iTunes but I like having them in the finder as .mp4s to default with the Quicktime Player. Until I can tag my video correctly, I prefer having all my video accessible from the finder until I am ready to import it into iTunes.

Just set all your m4v files to open in Quicktime Player by default, instead of iTunes.
 
With apologies if I am jumping in here...
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Thanks for the explanations. Some time ago I started using the Universal preset for all future DVD encodings, as well as replacing my original versions on an as-needed basis. My thought was that the quality of the Universal preset looked great on my ATV, and I wouldn't need to manage multiple encodings for different devices.

Since I rarely ever put more than one or two videos on my iPhone 4 at a time, the potential space savings from using the iPhone specific preset isn't really important to me. So now I am considering just using the ATV2 preset for everything, as long as the files aren't too much bigger than the Universal preset. And since I don't have Blu-Ray discs, I am not worried about 720p encodes at higher than 25fps.
 
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