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This is crap. it was running buttery smooth unnder 10.6.3
It's now running like crap under 10.6.4

I have a mac pro with a GTX285 and am getting less than 20FPS at 2560x1600 where as before I was getting over 70fps

*edit* I've just tried 4 different games.

All the same effect. Used to run great. Now runs *****.

Not happy jan

For one, make sure you aren't playing with bots as they are very CPU intensive and will make the game run slow no matter what graphical settings you are on.

Also, do the following:
Open Steam > Go to game library > select details view > right click any source game > select properties > set launch options and add the following line

+gl_bufmode 1 +gl_texclientstorage 1

I suggest everyone do this, not just those with Nvidia GPU's.
 
For one, make sure you aren't playing with bots as they are very CPU intensive and will make the game run slow no matter what graphical settings you are on.

Also, do the following:
Open Steam > Go to game library > select details view > right click any source game > select properties > set launch options and add the following line

+gl_bufmode 1 +gl_texclientstorage 1

I suggest everyone do this, not just those with Nvidia GPU's.

Can you tell us what those do?
 
So 10.6.4 is for Snow Leopard only? so those of us on 10.5.8 (late 2008 macbook) who have not bothered with Snow Leopard are left behind I take it...?
 
So 10.6.4 is for Snow Leopard only? so those of us on 10.5.8 (late 2008 macbook) who have not bothered with Snow Leopard are left behind I take it...?

Err... 10.6 is Snow Leopard and 10.5 is Leopard... so yes... 10.6.4 is Snow Leopard only...
 
So 10.6.4 is for Snow Leopard only? so those of us on 10.5.8 (late 2008 macbook) who have not bothered with Snow Leopard are left behind I take it...?
Surprised that the train leaves without you when you didn't even go to the station?
SL is so cheap and most of the improvements are performance related. Why has anyone held off on this particular update?
 
Surprised that the train leaves without you when you didn't even go to the station?
SL is so cheap and most of the improvements are performance related. Why has anyone held off on this particular update?

This was recently brought up in this thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/937438/

There are some of us who use our machines primarily for "work" and only game as a hobby. For me personally there is a single Apple bug that effects my primary photo editing application that has kept me from moving to 10.6. It is a simple bug (which makes it frustrating that Apple hasn't fixed it yet) but creates complications when I'm editing on deadline.

As nice as it would be to upgrade for better gaming performance I have to give priority to paying the bills.

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This was recently brought up in this thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/937438/

There are some of us who use our machines primarily for "work" and only game as a hobby. For me personally there is a single Apple bug that effects my primary photo editing application that has kept me from moving to 10.6. It is a simply bug (which makes it frustrating that Apple hasn't fixed it yet) but creates complications when I'm editing on deadline.

As nice as it would be to upgrade for better gaming performance I have to give priority to paying the bills.

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What photo editing application is that, and what makes you think Apple needs to fix it opposed to the software creator?
 
This was recently brought up in this thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/937438/

There are some of us who use our machines primarily for "work" and only game as a hobby. For me personally there is a single Apple bug that effects my primary photo editing application that has kept me from moving to 10.6. It is a simply bug (which makes it frustrating that Apple hasn't fixed it yet) but creates complications when I'm editing on deadline.

As nice as it would be to upgrade for better gaming performance I have to give priority to paying the bills.

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Hehe. Originally I had a clause covering people with specific bugs/issues like you, but i deleted it as I didn't think I'd be called out on it and its more of an effective statement without it. Oops. Seriously, everyone without a good reason not to upgrade really *should do*. The guy i was replying to said "So 10.6.4 is for Snow Leopard only? so those of us on 10.5.8 (late 2008 macbook) who have not bothered with Snow Leopard are left behind I take it…?"

"Have not bothered" implied to me that they just didn't get around to it. "Can't upgrade to" would imply there was a good explanation for it.
 
What photo editing application is that, and what makes you think Apple needs to fix it opposed to the software creator?

Oh here we go again. The application is Photo Mechanic and the bug is related to modal dialogs. The original Apple bug number is: 7226720

Hehe. Originally I had a clause covering people with specific bugs/issues like you, but i deleted it as I didn't think I'd be called out on it and its more of an effective statement without it. Oops. Seriously, everyone without a good reason not to upgrade really *should do*. The guy i was replying to said "So 10.6.4 is for Snow Leopard only? so those of us on 10.5.8 (late 2008 macbook) who have not bothered with Snow Leopard are left behind I take it…?"

"Have not bothered" implied to me that they just didn't get around to it. "Can't upgrade to" would imply there was a good explanation for it.

No you're right mixel, "have not bothered" is definitely in a different class then "specifically can't." I agree 100% with you, those who are not waiting for a particular compatibility reason have no excuse not to spend the $29 and upgrade.

I would like to see video driver updates to 10.5 for those in my situation but at the same time completely understand why Apple wants to focus solely on the current shipping version and there is nothing wrong with that.

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Oh here we go again. The application is Photo Mechanic and the bug is related to modal dialogs. The original Apple bug number is: 7226720

Just googled it and found the bug that pertains to is a spell check error that sometimes misses misspelled words. Must really set your world on fire.
 
Just googled it and found the bug that pertains to is a spell check error that sometimes misses misspelled words. Must really set your world on fire.

Man what is with you today? Let's make a deal here, unless you're a working photojournalist please don't assume you have any clue about my job functions. I'll do the same for whatever your profession is.

Yes it is a spell check bug that misses every single misspelled word unless you manually start the "Check Document Now" process. As I stated above it is a "simple" bug. However the behavior worked correctly in previous OS X versions so excuse me for expecting it to work in 10.6 and being annoyed at Apple for continuing to ignore it now that we're all the way to 10.6.4.

The simple facts are that it is an Apple bug (not related to any single program) and when I'm filing on deadline I don't have time to worry about it, I need things to "just work" like us Mac fans are used to saying.

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No difference for me. I wonder if any intrepid folks willing to look at changed files could tell us if apple actually pushed a driver update. I see lots of folks claiming 0-10 fps increases which to me seems well within the realm of noise.
 
Man what is with you today? Let's make a deal here, unless you're a working photojournalist please don't assume you have any clue about my job functions. I'll do the same for whatever your profession is.

Yes it is a spell check bug that misses every single misspelled word unless you manually start the "Check Document Now" process. As I stated above it is a "simple" bug. However the behavior worked correctly in previous OS X versions so excuse me for expecting it to work in 10.6 and being annoyed at Apple for continuing to ignore it now that we're all the way to 10.6.4.

The simple facts are that it is an Apple bug (not related to any single program) and when I'm filing on deadline I don't have time to worry about it, I need things to "just work" like us Mac fans are used to saying.

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I just find it rather odd that a spell check bug is holding you back from upgrading. If the entire application didn't work then sure, no way would I recommend upgrading. But for a problem as minuscule as that(that you still have ways of accessing, mind you, just not as easily) I really can't see the hold up.
 
I just find it rather odd that a spell check bug is holding you back from upgrading. If the entire application didn't work then sure, no way would I recommend upgrading. But for a problem as minuscule as that(that you still have ways of accessing, mind you, just not as easily) I really can't see the hold up.

If he's not upgrading, he clearly has his reasons.. it's that simple. It doesn't matter if you can't see the hold up. Not your problem at all.
 
If he's not upgrading, he clearly has his reasons.. it's that simple. It doesn't matter if you can't see the hold up. Not your problem at all.

This is a forum. He posts, I can reply. I said I found it odd that someone would not upgrade for as small of a problem that he has with it. No need to get your panties in a bunch.
 
I didn't upgrade as I am new to OSX / macs and didn't really understand what SL was, I assumed it was like going from Win7 Home to Ultimate and didn't even know how cheap it was.

That said I am going to grab it this week.
 
I didn't upgrade as I am new to OSX / macs and didn't really understand what SL was, I assumed it was like going from Win7 Home to Ultimate and didn't even know how cheap it was.

That said I am going to grab it this week.

You'll find it very worthwhile. Performance improvements, freed up HDD space, and, while these weren't touted much, useful new features added.
 
Performance is abysmal, cannot believe this stuff gets through QA.

have a clean 10.6.4 install on the latest MacBook Pro with 330m.

Must be addressed.
 
For one, make sure you aren't playing with bots as they are very CPU intensive and will make the game run slow no matter what graphical settings you are on.

Also, do the following:
Open Steam > Go to game library > select details view > right click any source game > select properties > set launch options and add the following line

+gl_bufmode 1 +gl_texclientstorage 1

I suggest everyone do this, not just those with Nvidia GPU's.

Ok. for one, No Bots. Secondly. If as I said it was running perfectly on 10.6.3, and the ONLY thing that was changed was 10.6.4 and it ran crap. Even if I were running bots and it was fine before and not fine after. It still makes that one change the fault does it not?

*edit*

either way. I've gone back to 10.6.3 until apple can assure me they've sorted it out.
 
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