Other than the occasional Moto 360, I do not see many smartwatches in the wild (I travel a decent amount for work). Apple will be the marketshare leader on day 1. I fail to see how that equates to "late to the game".
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Has anyone consider another smart watch?
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Other than the occasional Moto 360, I do not see many smartwatches in the wild (I travel a decent amount for work). Apple will be the marketshare leader on day 1. I fail to see how that equates to "late to the game".
Has anyone consider another smart watch?
I don't doubt that they will outsell all the other manufacturers combined. They will also most likely popularise smart watches just as they did smartphones, tablets and MP3 players. However they were slow off the mark (for better or worse). Their watch is better and it should be because they say back and watched what everyone else was doing and set about perfecting what was already on the market.
I don't doubt that they will outsell all the other manufacturers combined. They will also most likely popularise smart watches just as they did smartphones, tablets and MP3 players. However they were slow off the mark (for better or worse). Their watch is better and it should be because they say back and watched what everyone else was doing and set about perfecting what was already on the market.
I hate to tell you but the rumor of iWatch started long before that. The rumor of iWatch with many fitness sensors reached intensity when Aple released iPod nano with watch face.. in 2010.
Apple even hired a wearable expert in 2011, I believe. Showing Apple has full interest in wearable and with iPod nano with watch face just released last year it convinced many people then that Apple has worked on a watch type computer. (He worked there for a couple of years then resigned to work with Google.)
At that point, Samsung and LG already had wearables for sale.
False. Samsung and LG didn't have smart watch on sale on 2010, or even 2011. Not even close.
In the article, what they didn't believe was Jobs' claims for battery life.
(Apple obtains their internet battery figures by only getting email once an hour, and a canned web page from a local server every three minutes.)
You're right, of course not.
Wearables date back to at least the 1980s. There's no doubt that every major company has been working on wearables since at least the turn of the century. Along the way, some actually sold products to get a feel for the market.
Samsung and LG had put out touch based smartwatch/phones in 2009.
Sony-Ericsson had LiveView in 2010.
Motorola had Motoactv in 2011.
Sony had their own SmartWatch series in 2012-13.
Samsung brought out their first Gear watch in 2013.
Yep. See Samsung Touch above. Also they had a previous version in 2004. If I were at my main computer, I could post more, but I'm borrowing this one.
The Galaxy gear came out in September of 2013, and I believe the common rule is these devices are in R&D for 2 years before they make it to market. So if that is true the Gear was being developed in 2011 about the same time Apple was just researching the idea of an AW. I am not saying Samsung was first with the idea, or for that matter better (there watches have been terrible), but Apple was not the only company thinking about wearables back in 2011.
I like the Microsoft Band, has 2 day battery life, plus a nice touch screen. It's a tad wide across the wrist, but as it's a band then you can wear it with a normal watch on the other wrist and not feel silly.
Plus the Microsoft Band works cross platform, it also has more sensors like one that tells you when you've been in direct sunlight for too long.
I would maybe be interested in the Microsoft Band or the second version of it, cheaper too which is nice.
Plus the Microsoft Band works cross platform, it also has more sensors like one that tells you when you've been in direct sunlight for too long.
I would maybe be interested in the Microsoft Band or the second version of it, cheaper too which is nice.
Apple researched for AW long before that. Do you think Apple put watch face on iPod nano in 2010 just for fun? The 2011 timeline is Tim Cook greened light the project after Steve's death.
I know but these guys can't comprehend the fact that Apple may not have been the first, or that their idea some how lead to the rest of the industry following their lead. I will give it to Apple for pushing the industry with smartphones, and tablets. Maybe the same will be true with the smartwatch, but they sure did not lead the industry to the market. They did not even consider it until after others had tried.
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So look at what you are saying. Apple's research stared with the Nano in 2010. The Apple watch will not be released until April of 2015. That is 5 years after they research started. The Gear was released back in 2013. When do you think Samsung started researching for that? Long before 2010.
Apple brought MP3 players a bit more into the public eye, but people were using Napster for a while before the iPod. Arguable if they will do the same with smart watches after all the news coverage Pebble have had, and Apple has never popularised the Smart Phone, it was in the public eye and very popular for years before Apple arrived.
I don't think Joe public are that aware of smart watches and they are not in wide spread use right now. If Smart watches take off then I think that the Apple watch will play a large role in that. However as I said Apple are late to the game. pebble, samsung and Android wear have been at it for years.
Tim Cook is claiming that the Apple watch is his baby and that it has nothing to do with Jobs. It was conceived after Jobs died. Therefore that puts it at 2011 at the earliest point. Look I own a lot of Apple products (iPhone, iPad, macbook air, apple TV) and am 99 % certain that I will be getting the apple watch. However Apple were not the first on this. Pebble and many of the android OEM's were way ahead of Apple here. I think the Apple watch looks the most polished and seems to be more functional than android wear, but perhaps less functional than the gear S or LG urbane LTE.
Isn't that what I said? Earliest point to started the product, not the research though. Big company like Apple didn't just green light something out of nothing. It's clear that iPod nano is the test water for iOS watch, but perhaps someone need to see something concrete to believe its existence, not being able to read between the lines but that's OK.
But this is not what the crux of the argument though. The argument is Android Wear started as the reaction of iWatch rumors, and clearly iWatch rumours existed long before Tim Cook green lighted it. It was intensely rumoured when Apple released iPod nano in 2010, but started way before that.
BTW, when Samsung greenlighted the Gear?
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Did the Gear have something you think need a lot of plannings and researching? Did Samesung ever developed the product as thoroughly as Apple? Did it just release Samsung Pay because of all those intense research in Samsung HQ?
Did it has the history to?..
Just because Samsung can clone iPhone doesn't mean it has the same corporate culture. Maybe you can't see the difference between these 2 companies but that's why you failed to grasp the technology landscape.
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And now we see your true agenda. Everybody copies Apple and Apple are the first and best at everything.
I'm sure if the iPad pro comes out with it's stylus you will try and tell us that Samsung had heard rumours of Apple relasing the iPad pro and therefore rushed to bring the original galaxy note to the market in 2011 just to beat Apple.
All of the Android OEM's also started making are screen devices way back in 2010 because despite Steve Job's protestations against larger screens they knew that Apple were perfecting a larger screened iPhone and therefore were rushing to put theirs out first.
Did I say that?
Didn't Samsung clone iPhone? or Apple just went to court for fun.
Please tell me with a straight face that Samsung never clone iPhone.
A lot of the patents that Apple claimed that Samsung infringed have been invalidated and some of those decisions are likely to be overturned.
In addition, don't forget that Apple were also found guilty of infringing Samsung's patents so I guess that makes Apple copy cats too?
Patent is patent. I don't care about what was going on in court. I ask for your opinion. Did Samsung clone iPhone or not. Yes or No will do. Don't dance around please.
Did Samsung clone blackberries? and Motolora before that? and Tyson vacuum cleaner?
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Imo no they didn't copy Apple.
You were the one who mentioned the court cases as evidence that Samsung had copied Apple. Now you seem to be disregarding said court cases as they don't quite back up your claims and paint Apple themselves in a less than positive light.
So now you are saying Apple puts in more work to release their products than Samsung. Maybe be true, but I am not sure you can prove that. Just because you did not like the Gear does not mean they put a lot of time and research into it. It's not like the Gear was completely useless.
Honestly though are you just here to tell us how Apple was the first at everything, and Samsung and others just react to Apple? I mean that just sounds like fanboy talk. I am not saying you are, but that naive way of thinking is crazy. Apple has always been a reactions to the market, but then they prefect the tech and the rest are reacting to that. The iPhone was a reaction to the smartphones, the iPad was a reaction to the tablet industry, and the AW will be a reaction to the smartwatch industry. I will agree that Apple changed the way we looked at all of these things, but it does not change the fact that Apple was reacting to a market that was already there.
Just because Apple had a watchface on the Nano does not mean they were thinking of smartwatches before anyone else. Please give me proof that was the case. I am pretty sure that will be some hard evidence to find. How can you prove Samsung or anything other OEM was not developing wearable tech before Apple? We don't hear about these products until they are close to coming to market.
Yep. Like I said, everyone had a wearable project going on somewhere in the background. Apple tends to wait to get serious and come in until the technology and market is becoming ripe and/or a threat.
Both are reasons why they jumped into smartphones. They foresaw that phones could eventually replace iPod sales (which they largely have). They even rushed into pushing out the Motorola ROKR (aka "iTunes phone"), because many people were already carrying their music in their smartphones by 2005.
Re: timelines. The talk about 2010 reminds me of the fact that the Pebble designers even started long before, doing a smartwatch for Blackberry that was revealed a YEAR BEFORE the iPod nano came out with watchfaces:
As the saying goes, the proof is in the pudding. Just looks at the products from these companies objectively and you will see for yourselves.
I'm here to discuss about one topic only, and that is there were rumours of Apple watch (then in the name of iWatch) long long before anyone released the new kind of smart watch. In fact, in some forums when Samsung released the Gear people thought Apple had fooled them to do so and Apple itself will never make a watch.
Please stop put words in my mouth like Apple always the best or the first. It's really tiresome. Thank you.
Wow so your proof is no proof at all. If you can't provide any real evidence to support your claims then I won't waste my time.
You have not been discussing one topic. First you might want to look at the title of the topic. You will see its says "Has anyone considered another smartwatch". Which seems to suggest we are here to talk about all the smartwatches on the market.
I in fact am not putting words in your mouth. You have said from the beginning that Apple started research on the AW back in 2010 when the iPod nano was released with a watchface. You told me that the android wear or Samsung smartwatches were a reactions to Apple rumors of entering into the smartwatch category. All of which sounds like you are saying Apple had the idea first, and all the other OEMs copied it.
You are really trying to prove your point by saying there were rumors that Apple fooled Samsung into making the Gear, and had no planes to make a smartwatch. Were do you get this from? I think you are just starting to make things up as you go. Also doesn't that contradict your idea that Apple was planning the AW back in 2010? If they were researching and developing AW ideas back in 2010, then how would they trick Samsung into making a smartwatch? They were making one.
Huh? You can't see for yourselves that Apple and Samsung are different? Then it's no wonder you failed to grasp the technology landscape. Talking to you would waste my time. You don't know about Apple. You don't even know about Samsung. All you know is one company making a watch at this year and another making a watch at that year.. so adios. Like I said from the beginning, feel free to believe what you want to believe but don't think for a sec that with this kind of knowledge, your belief warrant beginning the conversation with "I hate to tell you but.."
You don't have anything to tell anyone yet.
I don't care about the topic. I came here because of your "I hate to tell you.." rambling.
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