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Crazy Badger

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Apr 1, 2008
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I had a close to 2yo iPhone replaced by the Apple Store in Glasgow after it stopped working and simply displayed a boot error message. No AppleCare so was well outside Apple's standard warranty.

The first offer from the Apple Genius was a replacement for £287 but then I questioned why this wasn't covered by the UK Consumer Rights Law and very quickly I was offered a free replacement there and then.

If you've bought it from Apple, worth a shot!
More recently, I took a pair of AirPods Pro into the Apple store in Edinburgh. These were bought in 2019 but had started to crackle when using in Noise Cancellation modes (fine otherwise). I'd been told this was a known problem, so took them in to see what they'd do. After some unknown tests out the back, they replaced both buds free of charge and quoted consumer law without me even asking the question. The case wasn't replaced, but that was still working fine, so a great result again and well played Apple. My partner is now using them as I'd bought a set of 2nd gen ones on a trip to the US a few months earlier (in fact it was them that alerted me to the known problem)
 

Abdichoudxyz

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I had an OWC Thunderbay 4-drive enclosure, that chugged along ok for a while, although I was never impressed with the build quality for the money. Then one of the Tb ports stopped working properly, and the drives would suddenly disconnect without warning. Sub-optimal. So I returned it, and as it was outside the 30 days thing, I had to accept a replacement. At this stage I had serious buyer's remorse anyway, as I felt it was a poor quality product for the price (very basic casing, poor manufacturing quality, no soundproofing, cheapo loud fan, rattly). Fortunately, the replacement was DoA, so I got to return it and demand a full refund; I claimed that the product was not 'fit for purpose' as the two copies I'd had were both very poor quality. I was dreading the retailer arguing and trying to fob me off with yet another one, but they accepted my claim and refunded me in full. So props to them. Put me off OWC products though.

Still needing some kind of enclosure, I bought a cheap Orico branded thing off The Internet™, which was surprisingly somewhat better in quality, although USB 3.1 rather than TB. Meh. It was a lot, lot cheaper.

Anyway point is, that if a product is faulty, it could be just one rogue item. 2 or more versions also being faulty could just be coincidence and bad luck, but could point towards a bad batch or just 'not fit for purpose'. So like more than one unit being faulty gives you a much better chance of getting a full refund. There's an awful lot of absolute crap out there in the consumer tech market; works ok for a while, then repeated heat/power cylces eventually leads to failure. Often outside of a warranty period. The problem with the '6 year rule' is how long a product is expected to last under 'reasonable use'. This is often quite an abstract concept; a manufacturer can argue that something like a set of headphones would only be expected to last two years, say. 'Lifetime' warranties are another one; they seldom mean the lifetime of the original owner. Such are quite popular in bicylce manufacturing for eg, but 'lifetime' can actually translate to just a few years. A lack of case law makes it difficult for any legal standards to be imposed on individual manufacturers, hence the 6 year rule. Manufacturers often have ways of getting out of having to cough up for warranties.
 
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