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Has Apple Blown Off Their CD Consumers?

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Jeef690

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Oct 25, 2006
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I feel a bit shunned by Apple. When I bought me CD laptop in June of last year, I thought it would last at least 3.5 years, well into college for me. Now, I am a bit put off at how Apple has marketed and developed its target releases and the Leopard OS.

Less than 7 months after releasing the 17in CD, they released the 17in 64 bit Merom; then 6 mo. after that, the SR. With leopard being marketed as such a huge discrepancy between 32 and 64 bit processing, it seems CD users will be in the dark once 10.6 is released, and also highly disadvantaged in 10.5 use. This goes without mentioning the countless faults and errors associated with the CDs including overheating, terrible LCDs, and processing whine, most of which has been repaired in the successive, 64 bit, models.

My Mac serves as my editing station as well. FCS2 has been optimized for 64 bit use. My Macbook PRO, designed to be used with these kinds of applications, quickly looses value when industry standards can no longer perform adequately on supposed PRO(FESSIONAL) workstations.

Sorry for the small rant but does anyone else feel as cheated as I do?
 
That's how the computer industry works... A few years ago (12-15 maybe, really, not that many) I paid $2000 for an intel 386 based computer that wouldn't run Windows 3.1... A lot of computers sold last year won't run Windows Vista. OS X 10.4 is a great OS, heck I still have my Ti PowerBook G4 running 10.3 and perfectly functional.
 
You knew what you were getting when you bought it. You knew that you were getting a 32 bit computer and you knew that 64 bit computers were coming sometime in the future. Apple is not cheating you because you got a computer with the exact specs that you paid for.

Look, computers will always get newer because technology keeps improving. Apple is not screwing you over by releasing new computers as better components become available. Do you really expect Apple to not take advantage of new features (like 64 bit) because they sold 32 bit computers just a while ago? That would be unfair to the people buying now and there would be whining about it. Just deal with it. That's life.
 
You bought a 32 bit chip and now you're annoyed they've released 64 bit ones? Leopard works for both.
 
Jeef690 said:
Sorry for the small rant but does anyone else feel as cheated as I do?
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Apple isn't "shunning" its previous consumers. It's optimizing their technology to utilize the benefits of all their lines of computers, be it 32 or 64-bit. The point is that, yes, you will see increased performance on a 64-bit machine, but you shouldn't notice a hit on your 32-bit machine.

What's wrong with that? It's like saying that, since they're putting in place multithreading APIs, and multithreading their apps, they're shunning their single-core/processor users. It's just not true.

Talking about 10.6, which is probably years away, is very premature at this point. Remember Steve Jobs did mention that they were going to slow down the release cycle of OS X after this release (but who takes his word for anything these days?).

Jeef690 said:
This goes without mentioning the countless faults and errors associated with the CDs including overheating, terrible LCDs, and processing whine, most of which has been repaired in the successive, 64 bit, models.
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What does this have to do with anything? The two are mutually exclusive -- they fixed the problems in the updated revisions of the hardware, and it lies outside the fact that the hardware contains a 64-bit processor.
 
lol.

You're bitching because Apple is advancing with the technology in their computers?

You knew what you were buying and that 64-bit were just around the corner (or you should have if you did proper research), and you decided to buy it anyways.
 
10.5 will still work, just not with 64 bit. They aren't putting you at a disadvantage, but they are giving other people an advantage. They could have just stopped making computers for six months instead of using Core Duo chips. You got the best technology from the time and there's something better now. Too bad. That's life. In one year, there will be something a lot better than the current Core 2 Duo macbook pros, but it's not something to get all upset about.
 
I really feel sorry for the CD MacBook Pro users.... I really do.

Each time I see one of those poor schmucks with their aluminium tin like casings... a kitten dies. It is instantly apparent when you see the sleek heat vents under the wifi antenna that the C2D MBPs are much more superior computers...

The vents actually look good!
 
The average useful life of desktop is 3-4 years. That's about how long it can handle the latest and greatest technology. Then there is a slow path to being obsolete. No 10.5 for another 3-4 months, then no 10.6 likely until 2009. I think you got your money's worth.
 
zioxide said:
lol.

You're bitching because Apple is advancing with the technology in their computers?

You knew what you were buying and that 64-bit were just around the corner (or you should have if you did proper research), and you decided to buy it anyways.
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Exactly, if you charge into buying a computer before researching about what is just around the corner, then it is your own fault that you are missing out on the advantages that the newer hardware have (that you should have waited for)
 
I still don't get what you're all talking about. Explaining that computers eventually get outdated? Well yeah... but, CDs are not going to be outdated by Leopard. Why do we keep talking about this?

Leopard is going to run on systems as old as G4s for christ sake. What is that, like, 1999?
 
I dont understand the idea that time should stand still because you bought a new notebook. At the time you thought you were hot stuff because you had the latest/greatest, right? Well, sadly time marches on and Apple has to keep up with Intel's latest offerings these days. And I think it's a good thing.

Okay, so you are "stuck" with a Core CPU. I can understand the frustration of some of the features you think you are going to miss out on. But really, by the time it matters, you'll likely have moved on to another machine.

Imagine the guy who bought a G4 1.67ghz Powerbook two weeks before the Intel's came out. Talk about being 'shunned'.

My Core2Duo Macbook Pro is no longer top of the line. But it works just as well as it did the day before the new models were announced. And when it no longer does what I need it to, I'll buy a new one.
 
Apple shouldn't be releasing C2D computers, and should make Leopard work better on 32-bit. The newer 64 bit computers should actually be penalized with Leopard. Their new slogan should be:

"Leopard....works even better the older computer you have!"
 
macjonny1 said:
Apple shouldn't be releasing C2D computers, and should make Leopard work better on 32-bit. The newer 64 bit computers should actually be penalized with Leopard. Their new slogan should be:

"Leopard....works even better the older computer you have!"
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How do you propose that scheme would work to keep AAPL in business?
 
macjonny1 said:
Apple shouldn't be releasing C2D computers, and should make Leopard work better on 32-bit. The newer 64 bit computers should actually be penalized with Leopard. Their new slogan should be:

"Leopard....works even better the older computer you have!"
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Actually, Leopard will. They have increased the threading and multi-core usage in Leopard so there should be less beachballing.
 
Jeef690 said:
I feel a bit shunned by Apple. When I bought me CD laptop in June of last year, I thought it would last at least 3.5 years, well into college for me. Now, I am a bit put off at how Apple has marketed and developed its target releases and the Leopard OS.

Less than 7 months after releasing the 17in CD, they released the 17in 64 bit Merom; then 6 mo. after that, the SR. With leopard being marketed as such a huge discrepancy between 32 and 64 bit processing, it seems CD users will be in the dark once 10.6 is released, and also highly disadvantaged in 10.5 use. This goes without mentioning the countless faults and errors associated with the CDs including overheating, terrible LCDs, and processing whine, most of which has been repaired in the successive, 64 bit, models.

My Mac serves as my editing station as well. FCS2 has been optimized for 64 bit use. My Macbook PRO, designed to be used with these kinds of applications, quickly looses value when industry standards can no longer perform adequately on supposed PRO(FESSIONAL) workstations.

Sorry for the small rant but does anyone else feel as cheated as I do?
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iDive hit the nail right on the head. The computer industry moves extremely fast. You're purchase will always become quickly out of date no matter how much money you sink into it. There will always be something newer and faster out there.
 
Don't worry, I felt shunned too.

If anybody should feel shunned, it should be someone in my situation!

Way back in the day when Apple first came out with the iMac G5 iSight, I went ******* for it and the various other features that it boasted.

However, not three months after I purchased my iMac, Apple brought out the new intel iMacs which put mine to shame. The Apple employees showed no remorse to me and left me with no options but to sit with my now out-dated machine.

Basically I was shunned as well. But you know, that's life when it comes to the world of computers. Sure, I was pissed off. I didn't want anything to do with Apple for quite a while after that. But I've warmed up to them again, though I'm using intense caution when deciding on a new computer! :)
 
Oh Grow Up!!

What a whiny post that was. I've been involved with the computer industry for a good number of years and I've never seen a company hold back from a technology update because they might annoy a few people who just bought a system.

I purchased my current computer (PB G4 1 GHz) 5 days before they announced a speed jump to 1.25 GHz. Now the technology has moved ahead to 2.4 GHz, Dual core, 64 bit capable chips and guess what? My poor underprivileged G4 can still run the software that I need (Audio editing). I don't feel cheated, in point of fact I've stayed just about current for running software for over 4 years on one system, this really speaks to how good Apple hardware really is.

I've just put in an order for a 15" 2.4 GHz MBP to replace my PB G4, this should give me another 3 to 4 years of worry free computing.

Their are two constants in the computing industry that I'm sure everyone has seen:

1) That technology constantly evolves and improves.
2) That the newest improved version will arrive on the shelves approximately 2 weeks after you purchase the latest system, regardless of how long you wait to purchase.

Sopranino
 
Newbs. :rolleyes:

Leopard works fine with what you have. It works fine with my G4 laptop and G5 iMac. FCS2 will work fine with what you have as well. A quick search on this forum would have saved you this very embarrassing post. ;)
 
ProstheticHead said:
If anybody should feel shunned, it should be someone in my situation!

Way back in the day when Apple first came out with the iMac G5 iSight, I went ape**** for it and the various other features that it boasted.

However, not three months after I purchased my iMac, Apple brought out the new intel iMacs which put mine to shame. The Apple employees showed no remorse to me and left me with no options but to sit with my now out-dated machine.

Basically I was shunned as well. But you know, that's life when it comes to the world of computers. Sure, I was pissed off. I didn't want anything to do with Apple for quite a while after that. But I've warmed up to them again, though I'm using intense caution when deciding on a new computer! :)
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no offense but you bought a computer after apple announced they were going to transition their product line to intel chips. what were you expecting?
 
Also, don't worry too much. All SR owners who view the world as you do will join you in the Mr. Grumpy Victim line early in 2008.

Sorry, but your computer is awesome and very powerful, and your post is just whiny and rather contemptible. You have one of the most incredible laptops ever made. Enjoy it.
 
I'm sure Leopard will run just fine on your 32-bit machine and I'm very confident 10.6 will aswell.

However anyone who care knew they where 32-bit, and that a 64-bit version would get released, noone forced you to buy anything with the core duo. It where still better than Pentium-M which would had been the alternative.
 
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