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Technology moves on. Get over it or wait until they stop developing new computers.:rolleyes:
 
The average useful life of desktop is 3-4 years. That's about how long it can handle the latest and greatest technology. Then there is a slow path to being obsolete. No 10.5 for another 3-4 months, then no 10.6 likely until 2009. I think you got your money's worth.

Laptops live's are generally a lot shorter, 1-2 years at the absolute max. They will never be made with all the lastest hardware that a desktop can be made with.

And I agree you got your money's worth, after all you bought a Mac. I have plenty of friends on g4 notebooks and they still work great for 80% of their daily needs.
 
I have a Rev. A CD BlackBook, and I love it. When I bought it I knew full well that Apple was planning on releasing 64-bit laptops, and I knew Santa Rosa was on the horizon, but I needed a new computer when i bought my MacBook and have no regrets. It does suck a little that with the Intel chips the product updates are a little more frequent than they were with the PowerPC chips, but that's life. The most sage and consistent advice given on this board is but if you need a computer, wait if you don't. Obviously you needed your CD MBP, so shut up and stop whining. It's a wonderful machine that will last you years... be happy with it.

Of course, they are suckers :rolleyes:

Never buy Rev A! How hard is it to understand?

That's ridiculous. If nobody bought Rev. A. machines there would never be a Rev. B. There are always early adopters, and we're always aware of what we may be getting ourselves into.
 
My dad has a CD machine and I have a C2D, honestly there is very little difference apart from heat. I think 90% of the performance difference (of which there is very little) is probably attributed to my better hard drive (160 vs his 80). Calm down and relax, your computer will still run Leopard fine. Think of all those people on powerbooks and ibooks, they're all going to run it too.
 
I think you should sell your current Mac as quickly as possible and buy the most recent version available, or at least buy the newest refurb the Apple store is offering, which would be a C2D.

Personally, I'm quite happy with my Macbook CD and will enjoy using it for several more years at which time I'll buy the latest and greatest and pass this one on to one of my children or my wife.
 
I feel a bit shunned by Apple. When I bought me CD laptop in June of last year, I thought it would last at least 3.5 years, well into college for me. Now, I am a bit put off at how Apple has marketed and developed its target releases and the Leopard OS.

Less than 7 months after releasing the 17in CD, they released the 17in 64 bit Merom; then 6 mo. after that, the SR. With leopard being marketed as such a huge discrepancy between 32 and 64 bit processing, it seems CD users will be in the dark once 10.6 is released, and also highly disadvantaged in 10.5 use. This goes without mentioning the countless faults and errors associated with the CDs including overheating, terrible LCDs, and processing whine, most of which has been repaired in the successive, 64 bit, models.

My Mac serves as my editing station as well. FCS2 has been optimized for 64 bit use. My Macbook PRO, designed to be used with these kinds of applications, quickly looses value when industry standards can no longer perform adequately on supposed PRO(FESSIONAL) workstations.

Sorry for the small rant but does anyone else feel as cheated as I do?

Everyone else has already told you about your whining, so I won't. From a switcher's point of view, Apple actually screws its customers less than other PC companies. Leopard is going to be supporting computers that were made up to six or seven years ago. Vista can't support compuers that were made six months ago. You have to remember that a computer is like a car: the minute you buy it, it loses money. Use your computer for as long as you can, and then buy a new one, just like you would a car, a toaster, whatever else you can think of.
You should also keep in mind that with technology, what's hot today is obsolete tomorrow.
 
no idea what your talking about, your computer can definitely last you the 3.5 years that you need it for college. Your machine is not that old, and can run things perfectly fine.
 
My current notebook is a Dell Cpx complete with a PIII 550 mhz processor with 512mb pc133 ram running xp pro. Some of the keys are literally missing off the keyboard, some of the keys don't work unless you pound them multiple times, some of the keys spit out 10 letters if you touch it lightly once, it gets hot super quick so the fan is always on and it sounds like screaming dying kittens. It has a 14.1 screen that has a odd splotch in the middle. I think it's dying pixels. The USB port on the back is 1.1 but its broken, it actually sparks when I try to plug something in. There isn't a network jack on the back nor a modem. There are two Cardbus slots but only one of them works, so I have to choose whether I want internet or usb. When I want to print something or update my ipod, I have to disconnect the ethernet so no internet for a few minutes. But other than that it suits my needs. I can go to the computer center at school to do video editing, autocad, etc. I can run office xp on it smoothly, can browse the internet well except if a page has lots of flash objects on it. It hangs for a bit then gets all choppy. Thankfully I use firefox with adblock so I can block most flash objects. And I can play all the spider solitaire I want glitch free! When I buy a mbp next month, it will be like going from the stoneage to now. While I admit, the evolution from a cd to a c2d was bigger than the usual upgrades from manufacturers, you still have a relevant computer IMO. Not the latest but still I'm sure your laptop doesn't freeze on flash intensive webpages like mine. It's like when I bought my first ipod. Monochrome 20gb right before the color ones came out. Once the color ones came out, mac stopped releasing firmware updates, etc for my ipod. It's life. Deal with it and move on.

and yes I'm typing it on it now.
 
The CD machines are awesome and will be great with Leopard. Relax.

Exactly. Our Core Duo imac and 2 macbooks are great machines, and there's no danger of them being obsolete any time soon - they already keep up with the workload they encounter, when they can't that's when they are obsolete - not just because apple have changed hardware.

Apple are a business, and are out to make money and therefore need to relaunch products at least once, twice a year in order to encourage 'NEW' sales. So is it any surprise they make revisions ? It's not like anything they have done since Core Duo is that revolutionary leap. Is a 2ghz core duo that obsolete over a 2ghz core duo 2 ? No of course it isn't.

It's just silly to get upset. If you are upset - take comfort in the knowledge that apple products hold their value well compared to other pc's and sell the machine and upgrade.

It's your choice......
 
Hi,

I have been really attempted to move up to the new macbook pro's but so far mine has been fine. I think if they redesigned the mbp casing, then I think I would go ahead with a purchase. So for now, I'm pretty content with having a machine that works great and looks pretty much the same as the most recent models. When they change the casing, that's when I'll make the move.

Let's enjoy whatever machine we have, they're good either way!
 
I got my first Apple computer, a 17'' revB G5 iMac, just shortly after Tiger was released in spring 2005. It was one of those sweeter updates with a good price/feature ratio. I did read this forum and it was received very positively - no hint of any reason to wait as far as I recall. (Sorry, I agree about ProstheticHead - you should have known.)

A month later the rumors started appearing. Flash forward six weeks or so after my purchase and Steve Jobs was announcing the switch to Intel at WWDC. Less than a year later the Intel iMacs were out.

Now don't get me wrong - my Mac's a great computer and I'm happy to have it. :) But I do wish I could run bootcamp for stuff like Microsoft DRM'd videos. And I got burned in terms of resale value today. I wouldn't regret it if I *had* to get a new computer then but in all honesty I didn't - I could and would have waited for Intel.

But guess what - these things happen. And at least I did get 7-8 months of good use of a computer I wouldn't have had during 2005. When I do make my next purchase I'll educate myself and do my best to time it right...but you can never be sure. That's just how the computer industry goes.
 
Being a bit clueless here, but how exactly will 64-bit make Leopard run better? Isn't it mostly about being able to address larger memory space? My understanding of 64 bit vista vs 32 bit is that there's really no difference in performance.

How will Leopard make 64 bit matter?
 
Being a bit clueless here, but how exactly will 64-bit make Leopard run better? Isn't it mostly about being able to address larger memory space? My understanding of 64 bit vista vs 32 bit is that there's really no difference in performance.

Agreed. It's not like the transition from 16-32 bit that enabled significant additional features on the Intel CPUs. The main core of the OS will remain 32 bit with optimisations for Intel 64-bit or Altivec for the PPC users out there.

Ask yourself this question - does your MBP do all the tasks you required when you bought it? If it does then stop whingeing and be happy. If it doesn't then why did you buy it? There's always something new around the corner and it's not as if Intel hid the fact they were working on Merom when the Core chips started to ship.

I'm perfectly happy with my MBPs performance after 15 months of ownership. It's not quite as fast as the new SR MBP, but it's close enough not to be able to notice. OK, so mine had Rev A issues and I took that chance. Apple changed the logic board out without argument and it's been fine since.
 
I feel a bit shunned by Apple. When I bought me CD laptop in June of last year, I thought it would last at least 3.5 years, well into college for me. Now, I am a bit put off at how Apple has marketed and developed its target releases and the Leopard OS.

Less than 7 months after releasing the 17in CD, they released the 17in 64 bit Merom; then 6 mo. after that, the SR. With leopard being marketed as such a huge discrepancy between 32 and 64 bit processing, it seems CD users will be in the dark once 10.6 is released, and also highly disadvantaged in 10.5 use. This goes without mentioning the countless faults and errors associated with the CDs including overheating, terrible LCDs, and processing whine, most of which has been repaired in the successive, 64 bit, models.

My Mac serves as my editing station as well. FCS2 has been optimized for 64 bit use. My Macbook PRO, designed to be used with these kinds of applications, quickly looses value when industry standards can no longer perform adequately on supposed PRO(FESSIONAL) workstations.

Sorry for the small rant but does anyone else feel as cheated as I do?

There are probably thousands feeling cheated, and millions who look at things in a more rational way. Did you expect Apple to stand still once you bought your Macintosh? When I bought my MacBook, I knew fully well that AMD had building 64 bit versions of their chips for quite a while, that a 64 bit version of Core Duo was on its way, and it was obvious that there would be a lot of 64 bit support in Leopard, since some was already present in Tiger.

And I still bought a 32 bit MacBook. Why? Because I didn't want to wait. Because I knew that whenever I bought, there would be something better round the corner. Because I knew that it will be fully supported for years to come.

So if you upgraded to Core2 Duo now, would you start another rant when MBPs with four core chips come out?
 
well..you have to look and see if any of the programs you will use even support 64 bit.
 
well..you have to look and see if any of the programs you will use even support 64 bit.

So true...it's like buying an HDTV without having any HD channels. I love how we keep trying to show the OP what we're talking about. I think it's time to close this pointless thread.
 
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