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Dextor143

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Guys,
I just bought a 27" retina and one thing i noticed is how slow the damn fusion drive is, what is my option? should i return and get an ssd one or i can take it somewhere and get a ssd installed?
 
Guys,
I just bought a 27" retina and one thing i noticed is how slow the damn fusion drive is, what is my option? should i return and get an ssd one or i can take it somewhere and get a ssd installed?

You have two options:
1) Buy a SATA aftermarket SSD & take it to an authorized apple service center to be installed. The speeds will be around 500MBPS

2) Return & buy one with the SSD in it. The speeds will be closer to 2500MBPS, but cost a little more
 
From your pots, was this a 1TB Fusion Drive? When I used the 128GB 3TB Fusion Drive it was fine. The current 1TB Fusions have a mammoth 24GB PCI-e Flash Drive, won't even hold less than 50% of the avergae operating system with limited applications.
 
I could not believe that Apple is still delivering a spinning hard drive with one of the most expensive desktop computers money can buy in 2018. SSDs did not cost so much more than spinners today so there is not reason to disappoint the customers and create a bad image for a really good product with this....
 
Agreed. Fusion Drive was a clever engineering solution when it came out, and (barely) tolerable when it offered 128GB SSD matched to high capacity spinning rust, but not only was worsened to 24GB, it was kept to hit a price point long after it should have been axed. Ever decreasing SSD costs have made it look what it is:

A cynical bean counter's solution to reducing the bill of materials at the expense of the (often uninformed) customer experience.

Forget the iPhone battery class actions, I'd like to see Apple stung for a few $billion for treating their iMac customers with such contempt:

"Can't afford our extortionate prices for a bit more SSD capacity? Fine, we'll make you suffer."
 
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You also have another option. My wife has an old imac and to speed it up due to the slow harddrive I simply bought her a 100$ external Samsung SSD T5 drive - connected it to the mac via USB - and cloned her startup drive onto it - so not even a reinstall is required and all this can be done with mac os internal tools. Then you can change the startup drive to your external drive and still use the internal drive for some data storage and you will have the SSD speed on your OS. Since then she never said that her imac feels slow again - so this is a quick and easy cheap alternative.
 
You also have another option. My wife has an old imac and to speed it up due to the slow harddrive I simply bought her a 100$ external Samsung SSD T5 drive - connected it to the mac via USB - and cloned her startup drive onto it - so not even a reinstall is required and all this can be done with mac os internal tools. Then you can change the startup drive to your external drive and still use the internal drive for some data storage and you will have the SSD speed on your OS. Since then she never said that her imac feels slow again - so this is a quick and easy cheap alternative.

This is a good idea for an old iMac but not for a new one within the return time frame....You loose the elegance of the AiO concept and exchange it for a cable and box clutter on the desk....
 
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you know, i have to say something about the fusion drive as it relates to my experiences on the PC side. when apple came out with the 1TB fusion drive and 128gb ssd, i remember thinking to myself, woah that's overkill. Every fusion drive on the PC at that time came with like 16gb of ssd on board. when apple cut it down to 24gb, people threw up their arms, but the PC fusion drives all cut down to 8GB instead. Difference? everybody RAVES about fusion drives on the PC side, but because of apple's cut, the mac side was filled with unhappiness and complaints.

I don't personally care either way since I go straight SSD no matter what. I just think it's funny dichotomy.
 
Agreed. Fusion Drive was a clever engineering solution when it came out, and (barely) tolerable when it offered 128GB SSD matched to high capacity spinning rust, but not only was worsened to 24GB, it was kept to hit a price point long after it should have been axed. Ever decreasing SSD costs have made it look what it is:

A cynical bean counter's solution to reducing the bill of materials at the expense of the (often uninformed) customer experience.

Forget the iPhone battery class actions, I'd like to see Apple stung for a few $billion for treating their iMac customers with such contempt:

"Can't afford our extortionate prices for a bit more SSD capacity? Fine, we'll make you suffer."


Not about making people suffer about offering decent performance at a lower price for the average consumer, I agree that it should have at least 128gb SSD but its a very elegant solution (software solution so any 2 drives you have installed can be seen as 1 volume and the OS will automatically arrange the most used apps onto the fastest drive for you, great for adding a sata ssd in the future and having an all ssd fusion drive.) for those that will use their imac for the normal day to day stuff, with a load of media storage where they will rarely see slowdown but can still store all those pointless 4k videos they take on their iphone. If fast storage and top specs are important to you pay for the upgrades the same as any other maker charges for ssd upgrades.
 
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This is a good idea for an old iMac but not for a new one within the return time frame....You loose the elegance of the AiO concept and exchange it for a cable and box clutter on the desk....

Absolutely true but if he wants an easy fix and money is a concern - then this option gives you great performance for just 100$ - and you can hide the small SSD behind the imac ;)
 
Return it asap. You only have 2 weeks from the date or purchase in the US (or 15 days in Canada).

Don't use a T5 as a boot drive. Instead, get a new iMac with SSD, and then buy an external hard drive or external SSD as needed.
 
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Yeap! Ditch the fusion. It's good for awhile, then you realize it sucks.
 
It is stupid that moving to an SSD makes an iMac CTO. Never understand why Apple no longer stocks ant decent configs of Macs. Not that long ago they always had a high end machine in stock, now it's only the base models.
 
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IF you're truly dissatisfied with the performance of the fusion drive, then RETURN IT and order one with an SSD inside.

Otherwise, you're not going to be happy.
There really is no other course of action.

Advisory:
You MUST order an iMac with an internal "straight" SSD from Apple's "build-to-order" page at store.apple.com. So... getting one will take a little longer. But it's worth the wait.
I doubt many (any?) of the brick-n-mortar Apple Stores will carry them in stock (might be worth asking).

There may be a -few- online retailers who order and keep stock of iMacs pre-configured with SSDs.
You could try portableone.com (no financial interest, just a satisfied customer here).
 
B&H has just about every configuration you might want in stock. They have always been my go to if I know exactly what I want. I bought my iMP from the local Apple store since I wasn't confident in my choice and I wanted an easy return path if necessary. Turns out I had to return it for another one, so it worked out.
 
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Agreed. Fusion Drive was a clever engineering solution when it came out, and (barely) tolerable when it offered 128GB SSD matched to high capacity spinning rust, but not only was worsened to 24GB, it was kept to hit a price point long after it should have been axed. Ever decreasing SSD costs have made it look what it is:

A cynical bean counter's solution to reducing the bill of materials at the expense of the (often uninformed) customer experience.

Forget the iPhone battery class actions, I'd like to see Apple stung for a few $billion for treating their iMac customers with such contempt:

"Can't afford our extortionate prices for a bit more SSD capacity? Fine, we'll make you suffer."
Unfortunately SSD pricing has remained fairly static over the past year or so.
 
you know, i have to say something about the fusion drive as it relates to my experiences on the PC side. when apple came out with the 1TB fusion drive and 128gb ssd, i remember thinking to myself, woah that's overkill. Every fusion drive on the PC at that time came with like 16gb of ssd on board. when apple cut it down to 24gb, people threw up their arms, but the PC fusion drives all cut down to 8GB instead. Difference? everybody RAVES about fusion drives on the PC side, but because of apple's cut, the mac side was filled with unhappiness and complaints.

It's because Apple didn't reduce the cost of the 1TB Fusion Drive (or the cost of the iMac where it is the base configuration) so Apple is increasing their margins at the cost of (possible) performance.
 
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