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Health, Good Practises, and Exercise

Richard8655 said:
I'm just wondering about your fasting program. Is it to lose weight or for health reasons, or both? It takes a lot of discipline to fast as there's hunger much of the time. Unless with protein power and electrolyte drinks that can be mitigated somewhat.

Why not try a daily exercise program like swimming laps for an hour every day. Then just eating regular, modest portion meals eliminating fatty, greasy, and fried foods and sweets, and switching to a lean diet.

I found that approach worked fairly well for me, losing 25 pounds in a couple months. Fasting would be a bit of suffering for me, but it might work well for you or others as I never really tried it. So not wanting to pass judgement on that either.
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I'm seeking to lose weight for both weight loss and health. I'll disagree in that I am not experiencing "a lot" of hunger. Really not hungry at all, believe it or not. How old are you? I'm 72. I work out 3 times a week, a combination of swimming and gym mat work and weights.

Long gone are the days where just exercise would make me drop weight quickly. Now it's all about calorie intake, although exercise is still very beneficial. For one thing, when fasting exercise forces your body into ketosis faster. I used to be slim and trim, but as I've aged, what I used to do is not enough because my metabolism has slowed. When I was young, running 5 miles, 3 times a week, and I could eat whatever I wanted, at my prime weighted 165lb, @ 5'10", but a month ago I clocked in at 230 dressed. I was 185lb in high school before going out for football. In college I started putting on weight, playing cards in the common room at night with a personal fridge to eat cheese, pepperoni, or ordering a Pizza from Little Caesars and eating the whole thing myself! In college I picked up dedicated running and dropped down to 165-170 lb as described above. This was my routine, but when in my late 30s, my metabolism slowed, and I slowly started adding weight, gaining a couple lbs a year adds up over 4 decades. Plus my knees and back bothered me so running was out, walking was in for a while, but it did not control my weight.

I swear I'm not a big eater, but I have a sweet tooth. I've been dieting off and on for decades and this has failed due to what I attribute as my sweet tooth. Back around 2005ish, I dropped 20 lbs with Atkens diet, but then I slowly gained it back. It's a horrible diet for long term. I have discipline for a while, but then I slip into old habits, and it's not like I'm eating half a cake or a pie, or a bag of cookies. One measly piece of cake, daily seems to put me over. I skipped breakfast for a while, and that did not seem to do it.

While fasting, I currently have lost 10 lb with 3 weeks of fasting twice a week. It's taken me no discipline to speak of to follow the fast. I start it after a high protein breakfast, and I was eating again, breakfast the next morning, a 24 hr fast. But the last 2 times, I eat breakfast and then don't eat until dinner the next day, about a 30 hr fast.

I drink a lot of liquid. On the first day, I drink red roboos tea, water, coffee which works great as an appetite suppressant, and electrolyte drinks from powder and water, and so far, I've had no issues with being tempted to break my fast. For me this is really easier than dieting, which is a 24/7 watch your calories. With fasting I go without, and then can eat normally on my non-fast days.

But the very interesting thing is that this is working so well, that that I've been motivated to "be good" on my normal days. I'm shunning sweets for the most part, except for choices between a couple of small ginger snaps, a small cup of prepackaged pudding, or just 15 calorie peppermint life savers, no more than a couple. This is a huge reduction in calories from eating pie, or cake, 400-500 calories a piece.

So this is where I'm at. So far so good! 😁 I'm using the Body Fast App, it has a free version and a paid coached version that promises you'll lose weight 30% faster. But for now I'm satisfied with trying this on my own. I think you can subscribe for the coached version for a year for about $70 or a month for a couple of $, which is not bad. After I've done it myself for 2 months, I'll consider enrolling.

Here are some links I've acumulated for anyone who is interested:
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I just turned 73. I hear what you're saying. As I've read, metabolism slows down as we age (as you mentioned). I think the mistake I and many make is we still eat as if we're in our 20's with the same calorie intake. So maybe what you're doing with fasting is a good approach.

For myself, I never believed dieting was nearly as good as regular, moderate meals coupled with exercise. I increased the exercise intensity and frequency to 5 days a week (swimming). As a note, I also have a sweet tooth hard to control. Little Caesars (we have one nearby too) and all pizza is crossed off the list here. And gradually eliminating all wine and beer.

I eventually came down from close to 190 to 165 at 5'9". Long walks have also helped and are quite enjoyable. Used to run but developed unexplained symptoms. Also planning on bicycling on our extensive bike paths this summer. But sounds like your combo diet/exercise plan may work out well and wishing the best on that.

Links look interesting and will check them out.
 
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@Huntn @Richard8655 Apologies for the OT - not a question about health, but am curious. I am 66, about to retire soon(ish), and am pondering downsizing my computing setup in old age. Wondering if either of you did anything like that? Of course, maybe you "retired in place" and didn't need to change a thing! But I am contemplating possibly moving to a warm tropical island (dunno which one yet) and the prospect of dragging along 2 RAIDs, a Synology NAS, several Macs and a couple of big monitors is, err, somewhat daunting ...

Feel free to DM me if you don't want to derail the thread.
 
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Riot Nrrrd said:
@Huntn @Richard8655 Apologies for the OT - not a question about health, but am curious. I am 66, about to retire soon(ish), and am pondering downsizing my computing setup in old age. Wondering if either of you did anything like that? Of course, maybe you "retired in place" and didn't need to change a thing! But I am contemplating possibly moving to a warm tropical island (dunno which one yet) and the prospect of dragging along 2 RAIDs, a Synology NAS, several Macs and a couple of big monitors is, err, somewhat daunting ...

Feel free to DM me if you don't want to derail the thread.
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Good subject and glad you brought it up. I don't know about @Huntn, but I didn't change my setup too much since I retired in 2013. Basically, just have a 2022 Mac Mini (with a couple external drives) and a few iPads. I hardly ever sit in front of the computer (Mac Mini), but instead use an iPad for all online needs (news, information, finances, ordering items, music, videos, etc.). The Mac Mini is mainly the iTunes repository for music and the few movies I have.

As far as moving, your plans for a warm tropical location sound great. My plans are to move soon to Europe. Likely the UK, and more likely Isle of Man there. Reasons include low tax rate and the political situation here in the U.S. Also always wanted to live in another country. We have neighbors who are making plans for a move to Panama (also a nice, warm location for you to consider!) for similar reasons.
 
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@Richard8655 Thank you for the reply. It sounds like you are already 'pared down' to the point where carting your Mac/iPad setup around the world shouldn't prove too difficult. Maybe that's what I need to aim for ...

If you move will you ditch whatever monitor you have on your Mac mini and just pick up a new one locally?

P.S. Just to try and keep this vaguely on-topic I went to the Cook Islands about a year and a half ago. It was an eye-opener. I walked along the beach almost every night for 35-40 minutes which really got my steps in. At one point I got a notice on my iPhone that was basically "Are you OK? You've tripled your average number of steps this week" (I think it was 7,500-8,000), lol.

On the other hand I rented a bike my first full day there. I only got 3 miles out or so before the pothole-riddled roads (even along the side of the road where I was riding) got so bad that my right hand ended up going numb and two fingers stayed that way for several days. (Not to mention being sterilized by the banana seat.) I stuck to scooters after that ...
 
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Riot Nrrrd said:
@Huntn @Richard8655 Apologies for the OT - not a question about health, but am curious. I am 66, about to retire soon(ish), and am pondering downsizing my computing setup in old age. Wondering if either of you did anything like that? Of course, maybe you "retired in place" and didn't need to change a thing! But I am contemplating possibly moving to a warm tropical island (dunno which one yet) and the prospect of dragging along 2 RAIDs, a Synology NAS, several Macs and a couple of big monitors is, err, somewhat daunting ...

Feel free to DM me if you don't want to derail the thread.
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No changes for me when I retired. On my desk, I have a 32” monitor, run by a PC Tower I use for gaming. On the corner of my desk, I have room for a 2016 MBP, which is used for typical computer tasks, bills, finances, doctors, shopping, forums, records and documents, zero gaming. In my family room, I’m using an iPad, to type this message, shop, surf, forums, MyChart (medical), etc.
 
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Huntn said:
I'm seeking to lose weight for both weight loss and health. I'll disagree in that I am not experiencing "a lot" of hunger. Really not hungry at all, believe it or not. How old are you? I'm 72. I work out 3 times a week, a combination of swimming and gym mat work and weights.

Long gone are the days where just exercise would make me drop weight quickly. Now it's all about calorie intake, although exercise is still very beneficial. For one thing, when fasting exercise forces your body into ketosis faster. I used to be slim and trim, but as I've aged, what I used to do is not enough because my metabolism has slowed. When I was young, running 5 miles, 3 times a week, and I could eat whatever I wanted, at my prime weighted 165lb, @ 5'10", but a month ago I clocked in at 230 dressed. I was 185lb in high school before going out for football. In college I started putting on weight, playing cards in the common room at night with a personal fridge to eat cheese, pepperoni, or ordering a Pizza from Little Caesars and eating the whole thing myself! In college I picked up dedicated running and dropped down to 165-170 lb as described above. This was my routine, but when in my late 30s, my metabolism slowed, and I slowly started adding weight, gaining a couple lbs a year adds up over 4 decades. Plus my knees and back bothered me so running was out, walking was in for a while, but it did not control my weight.

I swear I'm not a big eater, but I have a sweet tooth. I've been dieting off and on for decades and this has failed due to what I attribute as my sweet tooth. Back around 2005ish, I dropped 20 lbs with Atkens diet, but then I slowly gained it back. It's a horrible diet for long term. I have discipline for a while, but then I slip into old habits, and it's not like I'm eating half a cake or a pie, or a bag of cookies. One measly piece of cake, daily seems to put me over. I skipped breakfast for a while, and that did not seem to do it.

While fasting, I currently have lost 10 lb with 3 weeks of fasting twice a week. It's taken me no discipline to speak of to follow the fast. I start it after a high protein breakfast, and I was eating again, breakfast the next morning, a 24 hr fast. But the last 2 times, I eat breakfast and then don't eat until dinner the next day, about a 30 hr fast.

I drink a lot of liquid. On the first day, I drink red roboos tea, water, coffee which works great as an appetite suppressant, and electrolyte drinks from powder and water, and so far, I've had no issues with being tempted to break my fast. For me this is really easier than dieting, which is a 24/7 watch your calories. With fasting I go without, and then can eat normally on my non-fast days.

But the very interesting thing is that this is working so well, that that I've been motivated to "be good" on my normal days. I'm shunning sweets for the most part, except for choices between a couple of small ginger snaps, a small cup of prepackaged pudding, or just 15 calorie peppermint life savers, no more than a couple. This is a huge reduction in calories from eating pie, or cake, 400-500 calories a piece.

So this is where I'm at. So far so good! 😁 I'm using the Body Fast App, it has a free version and a paid coached version that promises you'll lose weight 30% faster. But for now I'm satisfied with trying this on my own. I think you can subscribe for the coached version for a year for about $70 or a month for a couple of $, which is not bad. After I've done it myself for 2 months, I'll consider enrolling.

Here are some links I've acumulated for anyone who is interested:
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I’m Fasting- 2 Days a Week, 31 hr per session, 1 month later: Started 9Mar at 228 lb, Chest 46”, Waist 44”, Hips 44”.
6 APR: Weight 215 lb, Chest 44”, Waist 42”, Hips 42”.
 
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Huntn said:
No changes for me when I retired. On my desk, I have a 32” monitor, run by a PC Tower I use for gaming. On the corner of my desk, I have room for a 2016 MBP, which is used for typical computer tasks, bills, finances, doctors, shopping, forums, records and documents, zero gaming. In my family room, I’m using an iPad, to type this message, shop, surf, forums, MyChart (medical), etc.
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@Huntn Thanks for the response. Sounds like you "retired in place" and didn't move or need to change a thing. (I'm envious. I have way too much computer 'stuff'.)
 
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@Huntn Thanks for the response. Sounds like you "retired in place" and didn't move or need to change a thing. (I'm envious. I have way too much computer 'stuff'.)
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We made our move in anticipation of retiring, downsizing into a smaller house, which 10 years later, we still have clutter that we brought with us, that in the former bigger house was not so apparent, but we still need to get rid of it… 🤔 The biggest sacrifice was losing our basement, and I can only fit one car into our 2 car garage. 😳 My office is the same, a storage room with a desk in the corner.
 
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Sorry about that! I'm a subscriber and I always forget that for others that there will be that paywall. If you have a library card, your public library may provide access to the online news database which includes articles from The Washington Post and other national and international newspapers. Check your library's website to see if they do.
 
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Fasting- Woke up this morning, weighed in at 210 lb, a milestone of sorts, have not been at this weight for a decade. I’m doing a challenge, currently on a 56 hr fast. It’s been easy, and am not overstating. I’ll hit 56 hr tomorrow morning when I wake up, then eat breakfast.

Incorporating your sleep time into the fast seems like a smart way to get more hours in that pass quickly. So I’ll eat dinner and then start the fast. Tonight is my third period of sleep for this fast.

As I see it, the key to succeeding at fasting and not suffering, which may not play out for everyone the same way, is to stay hydrated, including lots of water, electrolyte powder mixed in with a couple of the glasses of water, some green/black tea and/or coffee as appetite suppressants, and more water. Avoid artificial sweetened drinks as they can trigger hunger, although the things I’ve read indicates a 0 calorie soda pop will not break your fast.

Not drinking electrolytes, you could end up with a headache. I also take vitamin supplements including a multi-vitamin, magnesium, potassium, calcium and Vitamin D3. And I think working out helps with any potential loss of muscle mass. Besides working in the yard, I work out 3 times a week in the pool and gym.

During this current fast, I worked out yesterday and felt slightly weaker for a time at the beginning of the workout, but recovered during that period. I’lm not a heavy lifter of weights, 50 lbs for arms, and 100lbs for core exercises. Mondays and Fridays, I swim 2100 meters.

Next, an even bigger milestone is 200lbs. :)
 
Based on my own experiences, what harms me the most has been processed foods of all kinds, both plant and animal-based, sugars and salts (regardless of being natural or lab-created), as well as starches as the ones included in the store-bought protein bars and drinks, chocolate and other candy and bars, the "delicious" cream filled donuts, and so on. The other side of the sugars are salts. It means no store-bought salad dressings, but my own made with either extra virgin olive oil/apple cider vinegar or oil and lemon juice, plus unsalted Italian or other spices.

I stopped drinking any store-bought juices, except for unsweetened tart cherry juice, or pomegranate juice, or perhaps cranberry juice. No more pizza, and other foods that contain processed ingredients.

My main problem for me is the consuming of processed carbs, specially the sugary ones above, or salty ones, or a combination of the two. There was no fasting of any kind in my life, except for the fasting I have been engaged with for about a year now. This fasting is the absence of "gracing" between nutritious meals. The only snacking in between are an apple, or a couple small pieces of watermelon, or 6 almonds and 1/2 walnut per day, or a small orange, or a piece of cucumber, and so on. Another snack between meals is a small bowl (such as the ones used for desserts) full of natural or organic popcorn (air popped) without any additives including salt and sugar. Instead of salt and sugar, I sprinkle the warm popcorn with some olive oil and maybe powdered paprika, or other spice such as onion or garlic powder, etc.

Since I have to be cautious about consuming too much protein from dairy products and nuts or seeds or plant-based that can be detrimental to my kidneys, I am starting to regulate my protein/carb intake to both plant and animal-based as follows: wild caught pacific salmon, wild-caught pacific low to no-salt sardines or herring. Ezekiel bread or home-made bread, egg whites (no yolks). Instead of dairy milk I have switched to small portions of almond, or coconut, or oat milks that have no added sugars. I have been eating green-leafy salads, that contain raw spinach or beet-root leaves, too. Slowed down the consumption of nuts and seeds to a very small amounts of walnut (1-1/2 walnut per day), pumpkin seeds (1 tbs per day), brazil nuts (still eat one per day), macadamia nuts are high in fat but I eat 2 per day, 6 or so almonds. Avocado perhaps 2-3 times per week, depending on the season.

The bottomline: as we get old our guts and other internal organs can't handle all the junk we have become used to from childhood. Yes, the same products that have been modified by the food industries for so mane years- sponsored by the medical and pharmaceutical industries. But unlike a lot of old timers who for whatever reasons were not affected by it, a generation or two of Americans have been succumbing to chronic internal organ and immune system diseases (gut, pancreas, heart, liver, kidneys). The incidence of fatty liver decease has nearly become an epidemic in the US in recent years, and so CKD in older adults.

The list is to long, so I will stop here :)
 
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Based on my own experiences, what harms me the most has been processed foods of all kinds, both plant and animal-based, sugars and salts (regardless of being natural or lab-created), as well as starches as the ones included in the store-bought protein bars and drinks, chocolate and other candy and bars, the "delicious" cream filled donuts, and so on. The other side of the sugars are salts. It means no store-bought salad dressings, but my own made with either extra virgin olive oil/apple cider vinegar or oil and lemon juice, plus unsalted Italian or other spices.

I stopped drinking any store-bought juices, except for unsweetened tart cherry juice, or pomegranate juice, or perhaps cranberry juice. No more pizza, and other foods that contain processed ingredients.

My main problem for me is the consuming of processed carbs, specially the sugary ones above, or salty ones, or a combination of the two. There was no fasting of any kind in my life, except for the fasting I have been engaged with for about a year now. This fasting is the absence of "gracing" between nutritious meals. The only snacking in between are an apple, or a couple small pieces of watermelon, or 6 almonds and 1/2 walnut per day, or a small orange, or a piece of cucumber, and so on. Another snack between meals is a small bowl (such as the ones used for desserts) full of natural or organic popcorn (air popped) without any additives including salt and sugar. Instead of salt and sugar, I sprinkle the warm popcorn with some olive oil and maybe powdered paprika, or other spice such as onion or garlic powder, etc.

Since I have to be cautious about consuming too much protein from dairy products and nuts or seeds or plant-based that can be detrimental to my kidneys, I am starting to regulate my protein/carb intake to both plant and animal-based as follows: wild caught pacific salmon, wild-caught pacific low to no-salt sardines or herring. Ezekiel bread or home-made bread, egg whites (no yolks). Instead of dairy milk I have switched to small portions of almond, or coconut, or oat milks that have no added sugars. I have been eating green-leafy salads, that contain raw spinach or beet-root leaves, too. Slowed down the consumption of nuts and seeds to a very small amounts of walnut (1-1/2 walnut per day), pumpkin seeds (1 tbs per day), brazil nuts (still eat one per day), macadamia nuts are high in fat but I eat 2 per day, 6 or so almonds. Avocado perhaps 2-3 times per week, depending on the season.

The bottomline: as we get old our guts and other internal organs can't handle all the junk we have become used to from childhood. Yes, the same products that have been modified by the food industries for so mane years- sponsored by the medical and pharmaceutical industries. But unlike a lot of old timers who for whatever reasons were not affected by it, a generation or two of Americans have been succumbing to chronic internal organ and immune system diseases (gut, pancreas, heart, liver, kidneys). The incidence of fatty liver decease has nearly become an epidemic in the US in recent years, and so CKD in older adults.

The list is to long, so I will stop here :)
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So far I’ve been very pleased with intermittent fasting, came off the last session weighing 207. I woke up this morning with a slight headache, and drank a glass of electrolyte powder in water. Headache went away. This has been the most effective weight loss regimen I’ve ever experienced. What’s best is that theres no pacing the kitchen mulling off what least calorie item I can eat, including fighting hunger cravings, and a sweet tooth.

During a fast, sticking to approved liquids, and avoiding artificial sweetened drinks, I suffer virtually no hunger cravings, which is a huge plus.
 
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So far I’ve been very pleased with intermittent fasting, came off the last session weighing 207. I woke up this morning with a slight headache, and drank a glass of electrolyte powder in water. Headache went away. This has been the most effective weight loss regimen I’ve ever experienced. What’s best is that theres no pacing the kitchen mulling off what least calorie item I can eat, including fighting hunger cravings, and a sweet tooth.

During a fast, sticking to approved liquids, and avoiding artificial sweetened drinks, I suffer virtually no hunger cravings, which is a huge plus.
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What I do first thing after getting up, and before breakfast is to drink a 12 oz glass of slightly warm water with a few drops of lemon, at least 10 minutes before breakfast. Cucumber, apple, water melon, and others hydrate one's body. However, if I were to sweat a lot during exercise (aerobics, running, weight lifting, and so on), I would add electrolyte to my water.

It has been a little difficult for me to not "forage" for sweets and other snacks between meals. I love eating European and other delicious dark chocolate. This is has been a long lasting love for me, so I had to go cold turkey on it. :)

I no longer add creamers nor sugars of any kind to my coffee, and only brew decaf, but only drink about 6 ounces of black and warm-hot coffee per day. Fully caffeinated coffee or teas raise my blood pressure, and although decaf is lower in caffeine, it still retains some of it. I refrain from drinking too much of green and black teas however, just because some can contain folates. But there are no concerns with fresh ginger root and some other herbal teas, including bagged lemon ginger teas. High blood pressure and insulin resistance can create all kinds of health problems such as chronic kidney disease (CKD), among others.

By the way, raw spinach can be quite problematic for CKD patients, but eaten with moderation and always cooked (boiled in water) can lessen the amounts of oxalates and potassium that are bad for one's kidneys. In this case a great portion these elements are leached into the water during the boiling process. Boil and drain well before eating, and in moderation. Small portion, maybe once a week? No idea; I just don't eat spinach like I used to when I was younger an watched Popeye and Olive Oil shows. I always hated spinach, so it is not a big loss for me, but I just love the taste of the extra virgin "olive oil."
 
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Anyone here that has a treadmill at home?

I’ve had one for about 10 yrs - in periods I’ve used it more and other times it’s been less.
I also do a lot of different Yoga since way back., and getting outdoors and running are always great.
But the weather here isn’t always luring me out, particular not in winters.
That’s why I bought it, so I've never regretted that purchase.

But lately it have start to give me problems, so I checked with a company what it would cost to give it a service. Not overly expensive - like 20% of buying a new - but is it really worth it to a 10 yr old machine? That’s my question?

So my thoughts have wandered if it seem better to buy a new one, there’s some good on sales, on campaigns etc.
But then, what I’m gonna do with this old one?
Companies that I asked if they would take care of my old if I bought a new from them, said no.

So I might go with the service anyway....?
Treadmills are not that complicated tech - it may be great for many more yrs if I get it fixed now?
 
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Anyone here that has a treadmill at home?

I’ve had one for about 10 yrs - in periods I’ve used it more and other times it’s been less.
I also do a lot of different Yoga since way back., and getting outdoors and running are always great.
But the weather here isn’t always luring me out, particular not in winters.
That’s why I bought it, so I've never regretted that purchase.

But lately it have start to give me problems, so I checked with a company what it would cost to give it a service. Not overly expensive - like 20% of buying a new - but is it really worth it to a 10 yr old machine? That’s my question?

So my thoughts have wandered if it seem better to buy a new one, there’s some good on sales, on campaigns etc.
But then, what I’m gonna do with this old one?
Companies that I asked if they would take care of my old if I bought a new from them, said no.

So I might go with the service anyway....?
Treadmills are not that complicated tech - it may be great for many more yrs if I get it fixed now?
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My wife and I walk on a treadmill-at home-that we purchased 20 years ago. We haven't replaced it with a new one that has more features, since this one has the following: increase/decrease the incline, speed, shows laps or distance both with red LEDs and digital numbers. It also allows for one to check one's pulse and things like that.

You would have to consider the following:
a. The cost for repairing and maintaining the existing treadmill, plus if you can repair it yourself or perhaps a friend, etc.

b. The cost of a new treadmill that has the basic functions you will need, or a fancier (has more features) and more expensive treadmill.

c. You can always donate the old one to a nonprofit organization, or to a friend, family members, and so on.

If my wife and I had to buy a new treadmill to replace the existing one, we would choose a basic one that has a powerful motor, and just the necessary features we need (no bells and whistles). It is the same when buying cameras and things like that, in that the latest models aren't always superior to the nearest model they are replacing.
 
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My wife and I walk on a treadmill-at home-that we purchased 20 years ago. We haven't replaced it with a new one that has more features, since this one has the following: increase/decrease the incline, speed, shows laps or distance both with red LEDs and digital numbers. It also allows for one to check one's pulse and things like that.

You would have to consider the following:
a. The cost for repairing and maintaining the existing treadmill, plus if you can repair it yourself or perhaps a friend, etc.

b. The cost of a new treadmill that has the basic functions you will need, or a fancier (has more features) and more expensive treadmill.

c. You can always donate the old one to a nonprofit organization, or to a friend, family members, and so on.

If my wife and I had to buy a new treadmill to replace the existing one, we would choose a basic one that has a powerful motor, and just the necessary features we need (no bells and whistles). It is the same when buying cameras and things like that, in that the latest models aren't always superior to the nearest model they are replacing.
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Thanks for your input - I totally agree the less fancy, more powerful are better.
I'm considering options now....and letting it be processed.
No real hurry - I have a gym-card, and I do lots of yoga too.
It's leaning towards repairing the one I have. I like that it is less complicated and quite powerful, not a fancy brand either. That's why I bought it and have really liked it. I don't need a lot of training programs etc. - I can use it in my own way.
Donating it to a good cause, have been on my mind too.
I will let you know later what happened 😀
 
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