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I'm just wondering about your fasting program. Is it to lose weight or for health reasons, or both? It takes a lot of discipline to fast as there's hunger much of the time. Unless with protein power and electrolyte drinks that can be mitigated somewhat.

Why not try a daily exercise program like swimming laps for an hour every day. Then just eating regular, modest portion meals eliminating fatty, greasy, and fried foods and sweets, and switching to a lean diet.

I found that approach worked fairly well for me, losing 25 pounds in a couple months. Fasting would be a bit of suffering for me, but it might work well for you or others as I never really tried it. So not wanting to pass judgement on that either.
I'm seeking to lose weight for both weight loss and health. I'll disagree in that I am not experiencing "a lot" of hunger. Really not hungry at all, believe it or not. How old are you? I'm 72. I work out 3 times a week, a combination of swimming and gym mat work and weights.

Long gone are the days where just exercise would make me drop weight quickly. Now it's all about calorie intake, although exercise is still very beneficial. For one thing, when fasting exercise forces your body into ketosis faster. I used to be slim and trim, but as I've aged, what I used to do is not enough because my metabolism has slowed. When I was young, running 5 miles, 3 times a week, and I could eat whatever I wanted, at my prime weighted 165lb, @ 5'10", but a month ago I clocked in at 230 dressed. I was 185lb in high school before going out for football. In college I started putting on weight, playing cards in the common room at night with a personal fridge to eat cheese, pepperoni, or ordering a Pizza from Little Caesars and eating the whole thing myself! In college I picked up dedicated running and dropped down to 165-170 lb as described above. This was my routine, but when in my late 30s, my metabolism slowed, and I slowly started adding weight, gaining a couple lbs a year adds up over 4 decades. Plus my knees and back bothered me so running was out, walking was in for a while, but it did not control my weight.

I swear I'm not a big eater, but I have a sweet tooth. I've been dieting off and on for decades and this has failed due to what I attribute as my sweet tooth. Back around 2005ish, I dropped 20 lbs with Atkens diet, but then I slowly gained it back. It's a horrible diet for long term. I have discipline for a while, but then I slip into old habits, and it's not like I'm eating half a cake or a pie, or a bag of cookies. One measly piece of cake, daily seems to put me over. I skipped breakfast for a while, and that did not seem to do it.

While fasting, I currently have lost 10 lb with 3 weeks of fasting twice a week. It's taken me no discipline to speak of to follow the fast. I start it after a high protein breakfast, and I was eating again, breakfast the next morning, a 24 hr fast. But the last 2 times, I eat breakfast and then don't eat until dinner the next day, about a 30 hr fast.

I drink a lot of liquid. On the first day, I drink red roboos tea, water, coffee which works great as an appetite suppressant, and electrolyte drinks from powder and water, and so far, I've had no issues with being tempted to break my fast. For me this is really easier than dieting, which is a 24/7 watch your calories. With fasting I go without, and then can eat normally on my non-fast days.

But the very interesting thing is that this is working so well, that that I've been motivated to "be good" on my normal days. I'm shunning sweets for the most part, except for choices between a couple of small ginger snaps, a small cup of prepackaged pudding, or just 15 calorie peppermint life savers, no more than a couple. This is a huge reduction in calories from eating pie, or cake, 400-500 calories a piece.

So this is where I'm at. So far so good! 😁 I'm using the Body Fast App, it has a free version and a paid coached version that promises you'll lose weight 30% faster. But for now I'm satisfied with trying this on my own. I think you can subscribe for the coached version for a year for about $70 or a month for a couple of $, which is not bad. After I've done it myself for 2 months, I'll consider enrolling.

Here are some links I've acumulated for anyone who is interested:
Links
 
I just turned 73. I hear what you're saying. As I've read, metabolism slows down as we age (as you mentioned). I think the mistake I and many make is we still eat as if we're in our 20's with the same calorie intake. So maybe what you're doing with fasting is a good approach.

For myself, I never believed dieting was nearly as good as regular, moderate meals coupled with exercise. I increased the exercise intensity and frequency to 5 days a week (swimming). As a note, I also have a sweet tooth hard to control. Little Caesars (we have one nearby too) and all pizza is crossed off the list here. And gradually eliminating all wine and beer.

I eventually came down from close to 190 to 165 at 5'9". Long walks have also helped and are quite enjoyable. Used to run but developed unexplained symptoms. Also planning on bicycling on our extensive bike paths this summer. But sounds like your combo diet/exercise plan may work out well and wishing the best on that.

Links look interesting and will check them out.
 
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@Huntn @Richard8655 Apologies for the OT - not a question about health, but am curious. I am 66, about to retire soon(ish), and am pondering downsizing my computing setup in old age. Wondering if either of you did anything like that? Of course, maybe you "retired in place" and didn't need to change a thing! But I am contemplating possibly moving to a warm tropical island (dunno which one yet) and the prospect of dragging along 2 RAIDs, a Synology NAS, several Macs and a couple of big monitors is, err, somewhat daunting ...

Feel free to DM me if you don't want to derail the thread.
 
@Huntn @Richard8655 Apologies for the OT - not a question about health, but am curious. I am 66, about to retire soon(ish), and am pondering downsizing my computing setup in old age. Wondering if either of you did anything like that? Of course, maybe you "retired in place" and didn't need to change a thing! But I am contemplating possibly moving to a warm tropical island (dunno which one yet) and the prospect of dragging along 2 RAIDs, a Synology NAS, several Macs and a couple of big monitors is, err, somewhat daunting ...

Feel free to DM me if you don't want to derail the thread.
Good subject and glad you brought it up. I don't know about @Huntn, but I didn't change my setup too much since I retired in 2013. Basically, just have a 2022 Mac Mini (with a couple external drives) and a few iPads. I hardly ever sit in front of the computer (Mac Mini), but instead use an iPad for all online needs (news, information, finances, ordering items, music, videos, etc.). The Mac Mini is mainly the iTunes repository for music and the few movies I have.

As far as moving, your plans for a warm tropical location sound great. My plans are to move soon to Europe. Likely the UK, and more likely Isle of Man there. Reasons include low tax rate and the political situation here in the U.S. Also always wanted to live in another country. We have neighbors who are making plans for a move to Panama (also a nice, warm location for you to consider!) for similar reasons.
 
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@Richard8655 Thank you for the reply. It sounds like you are already 'pared down' to the point where carting your Mac/iPad setup around the world shouldn't prove too difficult. Maybe that's what I need to aim for ...

If you move will you ditch whatever monitor you have on your Mac mini and just pick up a new one locally?

P.S. Just to try and keep this vaguely on-topic I went to the Cook Islands about a year and a half ago. It was an eye-opener. I walked along the beach almost every night for 35-40 minutes which really got my steps in. At one point I got a notice on my iPhone that was basically "Are you OK? You've tripled your average number of steps this week" (I think it was 7,500-8,000), lol.

On the other hand I rented a bike my first full day there. I only got 3 miles out or so before the pothole-riddled roads (even along the side of the road where I was riding) got so bad that my right hand ended up going numb and two fingers stayed that way for several days. (Not to mention being sterilized by the banana seat.) I stuck to scooters after that ...
 
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@Huntn @Richard8655 Apologies for the OT - not a question about health, but am curious. I am 66, about to retire soon(ish), and am pondering downsizing my computing setup in old age. Wondering if either of you did anything like that? Of course, maybe you "retired in place" and didn't need to change a thing! But I am contemplating possibly moving to a warm tropical island (dunno which one yet) and the prospect of dragging along 2 RAIDs, a Synology NAS, several Macs and a couple of big monitors is, err, somewhat daunting ...

Feel free to DM me if you don't want to derail the thread.
No changes for me when I retired. On my desk, I have a 32” monitor, run by a PC Tower I use for gaming. On the corner of my desk, I have room for a 2016 MBP, which is used for typical computer tasks, bills, finances, doctors, shopping, forums, records and documents, zero gaming. In my family room, I’m using an iPad, to type this message, shop, surf, forums, MyChart (medical), etc.
 
I'm seeking to lose weight for both weight loss and health. I'll disagree in that I am not experiencing "a lot" of hunger. Really not hungry at all, believe it or not. How old are you? I'm 72. I work out 3 times a week, a combination of swimming and gym mat work and weights.

Long gone are the days where just exercise would make me drop weight quickly. Now it's all about calorie intake, although exercise is still very beneficial. For one thing, when fasting exercise forces your body into ketosis faster. I used to be slim and trim, but as I've aged, what I used to do is not enough because my metabolism has slowed. When I was young, running 5 miles, 3 times a week, and I could eat whatever I wanted, at my prime weighted 165lb, @ 5'10", but a month ago I clocked in at 230 dressed. I was 185lb in high school before going out for football. In college I started putting on weight, playing cards in the common room at night with a personal fridge to eat cheese, pepperoni, or ordering a Pizza from Little Caesars and eating the whole thing myself! In college I picked up dedicated running and dropped down to 165-170 lb as described above. This was my routine, but when in my late 30s, my metabolism slowed, and I slowly started adding weight, gaining a couple lbs a year adds up over 4 decades. Plus my knees and back bothered me so running was out, walking was in for a while, but it did not control my weight.

I swear I'm not a big eater, but I have a sweet tooth. I've been dieting off and on for decades and this has failed due to what I attribute as my sweet tooth. Back around 2005ish, I dropped 20 lbs with Atkens diet, but then I slowly gained it back. It's a horrible diet for long term. I have discipline for a while, but then I slip into old habits, and it's not like I'm eating half a cake or a pie, or a bag of cookies. One measly piece of cake, daily seems to put me over. I skipped breakfast for a while, and that did not seem to do it.

While fasting, I currently have lost 10 lb with 3 weeks of fasting twice a week. It's taken me no discipline to speak of to follow the fast. I start it after a high protein breakfast, and I was eating again, breakfast the next morning, a 24 hr fast. But the last 2 times, I eat breakfast and then don't eat until dinner the next day, about a 30 hr fast.

I drink a lot of liquid. On the first day, I drink red roboos tea, water, coffee which works great as an appetite suppressant, and electrolyte drinks from powder and water, and so far, I've had no issues with being tempted to break my fast. For me this is really easier than dieting, which is a 24/7 watch your calories. With fasting I go without, and then can eat normally on my non-fast days.

But the very interesting thing is that this is working so well, that that I've been motivated to "be good" on my normal days. I'm shunning sweets for the most part, except for choices between a couple of small ginger snaps, a small cup of prepackaged pudding, or just 15 calorie peppermint life savers, no more than a couple. This is a huge reduction in calories from eating pie, or cake, 400-500 calories a piece.

So this is where I'm at. So far so good! 😁 I'm using the Body Fast App, it has a free version and a paid coached version that promises you'll lose weight 30% faster. But for now I'm satisfied with trying this on my own. I think you can subscribe for the coached version for a year for about $70 or a month for a couple of $, which is not bad. After I've done it myself for 2 months, I'll consider enrolling.

Here are some links I've acumulated for anyone who is interested:
Links
I’m Fasting- 2 Days a Week, 31 hr per session, 1 month later: Started 9Mar at 228 lb, Chest 46”, Waist 44”, Hips 44”.
6 APR: Weight 215 lb, Chest 44”, Waist 42”, Hips 42”.
 
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No changes for me when I retired. On my desk, I have a 32” monitor, run by a PC Tower I use for gaming. On the corner of my desk, I have room for a 2016 MBP, which is used for typical computer tasks, bills, finances, doctors, shopping, forums, records and documents, zero gaming. In my family room, I’m using an iPad, to type this message, shop, surf, forums, MyChart (medical), etc.
@Huntn Thanks for the response. Sounds like you "retired in place" and didn't move or need to change a thing. (I'm envious. I have way too much computer 'stuff'.)
 
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@Huntn Thanks for the response. Sounds like you "retired in place" and didn't move or need to change a thing. (I'm envious. I have way too much computer 'stuff'.)
We made our move in anticipation of retiring, downsizing into a smaller house, which 10 years later, we still have clutter that we brought with us, that in the former bigger house was not so apparent, but we still need to get rid of it… 🤔 The biggest sacrifice was losing our basement, and I can only fit one car into our 2 car garage. 😳 My office is the same, a storage room with a desk in the corner.
 
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