Help me decide: Specs on new MacPro

[MacProCard]

I don't agree unless you are part of a great company which makes long term decisions (and can fire you and still work further without you).
That is well shown by the one you quote: Apple.
They could went on after Steve Jobs regrettably death.
Nobody in a smaller scale can truly foresee more than his short term future at the very best.
Who can guarantee he'll be alive next year or in 2 or 3 years from now???
One should be able to cover one's needs at present and within a reasonable time period. What is reasonable depends on the opinion of each of us.
The shorter, the safer.
To try to buy now things to be supposed to cover one's true needs as they will be several years from now (?) is gambling with the future. And it is an expensive gamble.
And a gamble one may lose...

Seriously! lol. That's fine. Pretending it's good advice to save $600 while doing short term forecasting on a 4-6k computer!? Sure forecasting is a type of gambling. Of course you don't sound like you really understand how it's used in business large or small. So I do wonder if I'm arguing with someone who still lives with their parents.

Either way, I'm sure you got a nice CAN and shouldn't be so insecure about it.

 

[snouter]

Pretending it's good advice to save $600 while doing short term forecasting on a 4-6k computer!? Sure forecasting is a type of gambling. Of course you don't sound like you really understand how it's used in business large or small.

A kitted out nMP is pretty much 2x an iMac.

I jokingly call my nMP "the Camry" because, I could have bough a nice Camry with the $$$. Of course, I only drive German cars, so, the description is not completely apt, but, you get the idea. It's a pretty serious purchase.

Again, for the "needs" he listed, a maxed out iMax would be up to the task.

I considered an iMac but my workflow benefits from BOTH the 6 cores and the thermal characteristics.

If a $3000 computer will do the job "for the foreseeable future" is it wise to go $6000 with the purchase? Especially on something that depreciates as fast as a computer. A pizza oven or a hobart mixer will hold value more then even our beloved nMPs.

It's nothing contentious, it's the question most nMP owners have to work out for themselves.

 

[snouter]

Thanks everyone for the advice so far.

As for price, I want to be reasonable. Money isn't a major factor but I want the best bang for the buck here....

Re-read your first/original post and make sure your purchase is aligned with your needs.

Price out the 27 inch iMac with an i7, ssd and maxed out 3rd party ram.

Personally, I don't think the quad core nMP makes a lot of sense. Unless you are prepared to go 6c or higher, the i7 iMac seems like the hot ticket. If you know you need more cores and better thermal characteristics, especially for compiling software, rendering 3d and video and audio processing, then, the nMP at 6c or higher becomes a more reasonable option.

I went with the 6c nMP and the D500. My workflow is heavier in video, audio and 3d. In particular, 3d rendering can peg the cores at 100% overnight and that is not something I would want to do on a MacBook Pro or iMac.

I was just fine doing my web development and light video work on my 2011 MacBook Pro.

Apple's whole game is get you to creep and they prey on your emotions to do that.

Good luck and enjoy whatever you get!

 

[Riwam]

Seriously! lol. That's fine. Pretending it's good advice to save $600 while doing short term forecasting on a 4-6k computer!? Sure forecasting is a type of gambling. Of course you don't sound like you really understand how it's used in business large or small. So I do wonder if I'm arguing with someone who still lives with their parents.

Either way, I'm sure you got a nice CAN and shouldn't be so insecure about it.

My dear.
I am 69 y.o. and unfortunately my parents passed away many years ago.
So it might be a while since I can be with them as you suggest.
Your supercilious way of treating others is not what people consider wise or polite.
But no doubt you run huge companies making billions every month.
Therefore your words are to be taken seriously and your configuration ideas are the Word of The Lord Himself.
I am not "insecure" at all about my "CAN" although it does not meet entirely the requirements and specs of Your Highness.
Am very pleased with it and would warmly advise others to have a similar one.
But of course at my age I am anyway Alzheimer so people should better hear to Your Wisdom.
I don't know your age but politeness seems unfortunately to be an unknown word to you and probably too late to learn it.

 

[phoenixsan]

Based in your.....

main activity (managing/editing graphic files), I would see a situation where you will be best served by RAM quantities over the stock and plenty of SSD space. In this last issue, I think the faster, the better, even not being Apple branded. That would reduce in big fashion the speed to open and load files, palettes and menus.
About music I dont feel confortable saying anything.....

 

[MacProCard]

My dear.
I am 69 y.o. and unfortunately my parents passed away many years ago.
So it might be a while since I can be with them as you suggest.
Your supercilious way of treating others is not what people consider wise or polite.
But no doubt you run huge companies making billions every month.
Therefore your words are to be taken seriously and your configuration ideas are the Word of The Lord Himself.
I am not "insecure" at all about my "CAN" although it does not meet entirely the requirements and specs of Your Highness.
Am very pleased with it and would warmly advise others to have a similar one.
But of course at my age I am anyway Alzheimer so people should better hear to Your Wisdom.
I don't know your age but politeness seems unfortunately to be an unknown word to you and probably too late to learn it.

Even a 69 y.o can act like a child. Good for you that you have such a plethora of tech knowledge at your age. Does make me wonder what kind of 69 yr old says things like "I believe in Apple". I'm in my 40's and that sounds very immature and naive. Especially from a financial and business perspective. Sorry, Just call it like I see it.

As far as to wisdom and politeness goes...Seems like you still have some learning to do as well. I wouldn't go throwing stones from my glass house.

Enjoy your nMP. It's a really nice piece of technology. Maybe you can share what it is that you do with yours...Run bingo with it at the old folks home. - Couldn't resist

 

[snouter]

Does make me wonder what kind of 69 yr old says things like "I believe in Apple". I'm in my 40's and that sounds very immature and naive.

To be fair, I don't get the sense that English is his native language?

Nobody ever got fired for choosing Microsoft used to be phrase. Some people just trust corporations to have valid reasons for what they do. I can't say I (or you) think that that way, but it's not that uncommon.

 

[MacProCard]

To be fair, I don't get the sense that English is his native language?

Nobody ever got fired for choosing Microsoft used to be phrase. Some people just trust corporations to have valid reasons for what they do. I can't say I (or you) think that that way, but it's not that uncommon.

To be fair, this guy has been on me because I tell people I think the D700 is a good buy. And that the 300/500s will need to be updated sooner than a 700. 700 gives you more options. I've never once said 300/500 are crap. Instead of dropping things he tries to rewrite how business is done. Native language or not, I think he's giving bad advice.

I agree with you in that if I could only afford a base nMP, I'd consider the iMac instead. I, like many, can afford these waste of money D700s. And my advice would be to pick one up if you CAN.