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What's your point? The mac mini is in a very enclosed space, and there are documented memory overheating issues when encoding.

ANY computer runs out of cpu when using handbrake because handbrake is designed to take all available cpu.

The hmdi connector does not work with all televisions correctly. This is also a documented issue. Some televisions are not releasing the display on the switch over, causing the gpu to get confused.

Btw, why are you posting on a mac forum if you think macs are so horrible?:)

I'm posting on a mac forum for many reasons but the 2 most salient to your question.

1/ Because I can
2/ You don't set the rules....and I resent the implication.

to go back on topic...

Documented overheating issues, So you agree the product is faulty by design or not fit for purpose?

I use or have used handbrake on Win Xp, Vista, 7, Ubuntu and have NEVER run out of CPU enough that the rest of the computer is unuseable.

btw I don't think Macs are horrible, they are just horribly priced.

2008 tech in a pretty box with a price tag 200% (at least in the Uk) of where it should be!
 
There are no "design issues". Apple for the most part keeps the fans running slow and does not aggressively ramp up the speed in response to increased temperatures. This isn't just the Mac Mini, but also laptops, iMacs and Mac Pros. The computers are more than capable of cooling themselves, just the default parameters aren't ideal for power users by a long shot.

I run HandBrake64 a lot. Right now it's at home with a dozen videos (hour each, 1080i TS source) in the queue on Mid-2010 Mac Mini (2.66GHz, 8GB). That's about 36 hours of non-stop work (100% CPU utilization). Room temperature is ~80F.

Use Fan Control or SMCFanControl, and adjust it so the maximum temperature under Handbrake does not exceed 145F. With Fan Control, my base fan speed is set to 2300rpm (still inaudible at 3 feet), and the upper threshhold is set to 140F. You should see the fan operating at ~4600rpm and CPU temperatures not exceeding 145F (and ambient temps under 95F) under iStat even after Handbrake has already been cranking for hours. The maximum fan speed for a Mini is ~5500rpm.

The Mini doesn't "run out of CPU". Intel's thermal-related throttling is VERY aggressive, because before it, in situations like this, you ended up with a dead CPU. Intel's thermal management was mostly implemented during the Pentium4 (Netburst's) reign, because business users don't want to deal with dead servers due to fan failures. Netburst had ridiculously high TDPs for its time.
 
Hi,

Thanks for all your replies

My average temperature when gaming, is around 49 degrees celsius and thats my main concern since it only seems to happen when I run games.
Almost identical to the thread starter's image.

No I do switch back and forth between tvs/monitors I use one monitor connected from DVI to HDMI

And nope not running any ripping software, handbrake or otherwise.

This issue strictly happens with games, and there was one time that it happened during surfing through safari.
 
Hi,

Thanks for all your replies

My average temperature when gaming, is around 49 degrees celsius and thats my main concern since it only seems to happen when I run games.
Almost identical to the thread starter's image.

No I do switch back and forth between tvs/monitors I use one monitor connected from DVI to HDMI

And nope not running any ripping software, handbrake or otherwise.

This issue strictly happens with games, and there was one time that it happened during surfing through safari.

49C = 120F. That is nothing. The CPU is nearly at that temp when idling immediately after being booted. I think the lowest CPU temp you can even witness in the Mid-2010 Mini is 46C (115F). That's with the computer idling for about an hour with the fan maxed out at 5500rpm. CPUs don't operate at room temperature! Something about the first law of thermodynamics.

77C (170F) is where you should start getting genuinely concerned, as that's when the CPU's thermal management should trip. With Fan Control or SMC Fan Control you should have it configured so it never exceeds 65C, which for Intel processors is perfectly healthy. GPUs are a different story - i.e. desktop nVidia GPUs usually don't start to kick in their thermal management until anywhere between 85C and 90C.

Another gauge of thermal issues outside of the temperature reported by the CPU's thermistor is the value reported by the ambient temperature sensor. When idling, this is usually only 85-88F (29-31C). Under heavy loads (non-stop video encoding) I've never seen this eclipse 96F (36C). If it starts going beyond 40C (105F) that's when there's very obvious thermal issues, and the fan speed needs to be cranked up to compensate.
 
I think the lowest CPU temp you can even witness in the Mid-2010 Mini is 46C (115F). That's with the computer idling for about an hour with the fan maxed out at 5500rpm.
i have the base mini (2.4ghz 2gb) and it idles at 104F (40c) @ 1800rpm. room temp is about 77f.

btw, what happened to the OP of this thread? curious to know if he resolved his issue.
 
Maybe...

When I plugged in my new 2010 Mac mini, it worked just fine, then started to slow down. The way I resolved this was going into System Preferences and changing my startup disk from Network Startup to my hard drive. This might help.
 
Is my Mac Mini dead on arrival, or is it something I did?

After getting my shiny new unibody Mini yesterday, I immediately/excitedly set it up and used migration assistant to port my files/apps/settings from my macbook (2006). I used an ethernet cable for this since I didn't have a 6-9 pin firewire. After a couple of hours, it was 1am but I was ready to go.

I log in and the desktop appears, everything looks good so far. Then I start by opening firefox and pages... and the best way I can describe the actual resulting performance is "Choppy." There was a lot of lag with any attempt to scroll down or move the windows. There was no smooth fluid motion like my Macbook has always had, instead the windows seemed to stiffly teleport (after a delay) to where the mouse was.

I restarted the computer in case that would make a difference. Moving windows was a little better but still choppy, loading programs was slower than I expected, and the performance wasn't even on the level of my 2006 macbook...

Disappointed, I decided to at least try World of Warcraft (yeah yeah, I know :p ) to see how the graphics card worked. My macbook's 64mb integrated card can only just handle it on the lowest settings, so for the Mac Mini I changed the settings to medium to high. This worked decently at first, I was amazed that there are actually detailed textures and real shadows in the game, but then weird colors started flashing on the screen and the game actually froze!

After some time I was able to command+M to get it out of full screen, but the dock and other windows weren't responding to anything. Eventually I could cancel out of the game, but the computer seemed to be suffering a lot from the ordeal. The dock actually disappeared, leaving a sort of color echo to the side of where it should've been. I had open a simple text document with some passwords on it (so I don't have to remember them), and I tried moving that and my computer simply became scrambled. It basically crashed and froze.

This is what it looked like (sensitive information blacked out). The only program open at the time was textedit. Picture was taken of the monitor by digital camera.

Scrambled.png


And so weeks of anticipating a mini update was turned into bitter disappointment in the span of 20 minutes. I have never seen anything like this on a Mac before.. my macbook has never frozen, died, or even really slowed down. Maybe I was lucky with the macbook, but I've never seen the sort of lag, and nothing's ever been scrambled... The Mac Mini's performance was pretty weak even before the crash. This seems like a catastrophic failure.

So what do you guys think the problem is... maybe the USPS dropped the box and damaged the internals? Did transferring data from the Macbook screw it up somehow? I was using a VGA monitor with the minidisplay port, did that contribute? Is the Mini just a lemon that I should send back? What should I do?

Like others have said, try a clean install of the OS. When I purchased my 2010 Mac Mini, I was unimpressed with the performance as well, but now it hums along like a champ. No problems, snappy as hell. Love it.
 
Did archipellago make it all the way to macrumors 6502a status on flamer posts like that? :( Next he'll ask if SMC Fan Control was designed for the Mini ;) or some other jab with no attempt to research the answers to his own flamer questions.
 
Did archipellago make it all the way to macrumors 6502a status on flamer posts like that? :( Next he'll ask if SMC Fan Control was designed for the Mini ;) or some other jab with no attempt to research the answers to his own flamer questions.

The constant negativity and flaming that goes on in these forums is awful.
 
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