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I'm guessing this thread is tongue-in-cheek; at least I hope since it's pretty silly.

Anyway, I've used Dell laptops at previous companies and they have all been crap. Each and every single one. Then at my previous company, I was issued a ThinkPad - it was a world of difference.
 
you've been waiting since august. I could have sworn they updated the freakin thing in august. If you are really that desperate, then just get the dell. may not have the build quality of a mbp but at heart its the same or even better.
 
If you buy the Dell, in a couple of months you'll realize you have a Dell and smash your face into the keyboard.

If you wait to buy the MBP, in a couple of months you'll realize there's still no update, but at least you'll have nothing to smash your face into.

If you buy the MBP now, they will be updated in a couple days and you'll smash your face into the keyboard.
 
If you don't mind me asking, what are you doing that requires an 5% bump in speed and MAYBE a better GPU (probably same 8600 with 256MB in lowend and 512MB in high end)?
 
I do not know if i can perswade you but do not go for dell they are the worst company world.I dont have a mac but from what i know they are a good company my earphones broke and my ipod was not bought at an apple store.The ipod was over a year old and the replaced it straight away.What ever you do dont buy from dell its more like hell i would call them :) lol :apple: is the way foward
 
I think way too many people are looking down on Dell's. I've seen in 3 different Universities in a number of different faculties filled with Dell's. They have been reliable and customer service isn't as bad as people say (sure Apple's is better).
I have a Dell laptop (downgraded to Vista) and it meets my expectation for it's price.

Also taking hits at Alienware? That new laptop they got looks pretty good if you ask me, option to have an GeForce 8800 in it. Show me another laptop with that for their price.

So, if you don't NEED the MBP, what are you waiting for?
 
i would not call dell reliable i got a inspiron 6000 in 1 year i had 2 hard drives replaced, 2 mother boards,4 keyboard's graphics card, a screen,2 chips of ram and a fan now in my case i would not call that reliable and remember that's in ONE YEAR. They only reason schools and universities and colleagues have dell is because the local councils sign a contract with dell for all the computers. Don't even start me with windows vista i bought it 1 week later i downgraded and took it back to the shop. The customer service my goodness its not bad that's being to kind. You get put through to India and they can't understand you and you cannot understand them.
 
If you don't mind me asking, what are you doing that requires an 5% bump in speed and MAYBE a better GPU (probably same 8600 with 256MB in lowend and 512MB in high end)?

If you don't mind me asking, how are you living your life that you require a home that has more than just a toilet and enough space for a single bed?

If you don't mind me asking, what contribution are you making that qualifies you to means of commuting that comes with shelter and protection from the elements as you are traveling? Why, you can always travel on a scooter and a barge... the rest of the world can wait, you are not that important.

If you don't mind me asking, what else is there in your life that you are indulging in beyond your basic needs?

Let's face it, the Macbook Pro is not a "need", and for its price it kind of sucks for what you are getting in this day and age. Why is it that the prices of Macs can stay constant at a certain price point, and come the day of an update, and poof, discretely deliver higher performance for the money all in a split moment?

Why can't they be like everyone else who rolls out products consistently over the year and price down older product lines? If anything posts like these are Apple's fault, not ours.
 
Let's face it, the Macbook Pro is not a "need", and for its price it kind of sucks for what you are getting in this day and age. Why is it that the prices of Macs can stay constant at a certain price point, and come the day of an update, and poof, discretely deliver higher performance for the money all in a split moment?

Why can't they be like everyone else who rolls out products consistently over the year and price down older product lines? If anything posts like these are Apple's fault, not ours.

HAH. That reminds me of when I bought this 17" iMac G4 for ~$2000 and a few months later they introduced the G5 and suddenly that same amount could have bought me a 20" with a 1000x better processor as well as a better graphics card and who knows what else all in a smaller footprint with speakers built in. Such is life.
 
I don't get threads like these (and anyone here will tell you I'm no mac fanboy). If you want the specs and don't need OS X, the Dell's a no brainer. Personally, I'd get a Thinkpad instead, but the idea remains the same. The only time you'll come close to a PC's price-specs on a Mac is when one's just been updated. At every other time, you'll find a much better deal with a PC. So if you don't need OS X, but you do want the high performance, why should we convince you to keep waiting?

Oh, and you can see my sig for my feelings on waiting in general.
 
I don't get threads like these (and anyone here will tell you I'm no mac fanboy). If you want the specs and don't need OS X, the Dell's a no brainer. Personally, I'd get a Thinkpad instead, but the idea remains the same. The only time you'll come close to a PC's price-specs on a Mac is when one's just been updated. At every other time, you'll find a much better deal with a PC. So if you don't need OS X, but you do want the high performance, why should we convince you to keep waiting?

Oh, and you can see my sig for my feelings on waiting in general.

I don't know why Apple has to make processor, etc., upgrades a big deal. Why not just lower prices temporarily and allow the new processors to be a build-to-order option up to the current prices until they're out of pre-built macs with the old junk in them. That way they stay up to date and you don't feel like you're paying way too much for something that will be 10x better in a few weeks. If there's no change to the case/monitor/keyboard/trackpad/what-have-you, then it's not really a big deal. I know nothing about business, but apparently Dell et al. are doing something similar to keep up to date.
 
The OP really doesn't sound like he wants a Mac, honestly he doesn't. Firstly how could you be waiting for an update of the MBP since August? The most recent update was just around that time..:confused:

Secondly if the OP REALLY wanted the Mac it won't require an update for him to buy it. The current specs on the MBP are awesome and there's nothing on XPS that's more recent and if you want to count the new Penryn it is not going to increase performance so much that it will affect your software use.

Lastly, if the OP is even considering a Dell XPS (unless this is just a game) then he has no real interest in OS X. Why should it take the forum convince you to buy a Mac? If you prefer the Dell then go for it. :p
 
I'm in a similar situation as you because I've needed a new notebook for a wile because my Dell notebook is completely worthless. I almost bought a MBA because I'm desperate and I have a new MP for the heavy lifting, but my wife stopped me before I bought it and then a penryn MBP. I say wait if you can but if needs dictate otherwise...
 
If you buy the Dell, in a couple of months you'll realize you have a Dell and smash your face into the keyboard.

If you wait to buy the MBP, in a couple of months you'll realize there's still no update, but at least you'll have nothing to smash your face into.

If you buy the MBP now, they will be updated in a couple days and you'll smash your face into the keyboard.

:D

http://www.ihatedell.net
 
The OP really doesn't sound like he wants a Mac, honestly he doesn't. Firstly how could you be waiting for an update of the MBP since August? The most recent update was just around that time..:confused:

Secondly if the OP REALLY wanted the Mac it won't require an update for him to buy it. The current specs on the MBP are awesome and there's nothing on XPS that's more recent and if you want to count the new Penryn it is not going to increase performance so much that it will affect your software use.

Lastly, if the OP is even considering a Dell XPS (unless this is just a game) then he has no real interest in OS X. Why should it take the forum convince you to buy a Mac? If you prefer the Dell then go for it. :p

Let me address all your points:

"The OP doesn't sound like he wants a Mac" Firstly, I have already purchased all the software for Mac because upto christmas, I had a Powerbook G4. I also plan on buying a Mac Pro when I move house in the summer. The point I'm trying to make, is I need a new notebook now, and I'm not prepared to pay £1300 NOW for something that was £1300 about 9 months ago (with the same specs).

"Secondly if the OP REALLY wanted the Mac it won't require an update for him to buy it." What makes you think this? If I was to buy a 9 month old computer now for so much money, I would be mental!

"Lastly, if the OP is even considering a Dell XPS (unless this is just a game) then he has no real interest in OS X." Again, this is a stupid assumption. I much prefer OSX but a £500 price on OSX is ridiculous.

There's no point saying I have no real interest in OSX considering I already own all of Apples Pro Apps (Genuine, not Copies) and have been using a Powerbook G4 until it got damaged. The point is that the current spec is simply unreasonable for the price.
 
On balance I like Mac OS-X. The app integration and the lack (currently at least) of virus worries makes it a winner.

Just make sure you're on CS3 if you're going to go w/the MBP - I found CS1 to be an unstable (project destroying) pile of caca on OS-X.

That said - XP Pro on my home built desktop has been 10x more stable in my experience.
 
On balance I like Mac OS-X. The app integration and the lack (currently at least) of virus worries makes it a winner.

Just make sure you're on CS3 if you're going to go w/the MBP - I found CS1 to be an unstable (project destroying) pile of caca on OS-X.

That said - XP Pro on my home built desktop has been 10x more stable in my experience.

Yeah, I have CS3 Master Collection for both Windows and Mac.

I'm just not convinced that the OSX is worth a £500 price premium over the dell
 
Ugh

If your debating between dell and apple DO NOT get a dell. I have repaired more dells then anything. I dont understand why people dont realize theyre not a top company like they used to be back in the 90s.

Dells are hit or miss quality wise, those nice little notebooks everyones looking at I replace wifi cards in CONSTANTLY, not to mention they run vista...poorly.

Alienware-Junk. I repair a ton of those as well including ones that come straight from the factory without everything plugged into the motherboard!!!(Where is QA?) If you want a gaming machine look at a Hypersonic. The only things Ive worked on these with is virus removal. Theyre build solid and are fairly inexpensive. Voodoo PCs are really well built as well but theyre the biggest ripoff ever.

Granted in the end its your money and some people like the companies that I blatantly bashed because they had good experiences with them but being a tech for over 7 years I tend to see alot of trends in machines. If you get it and your happy, good for you, if not? Then you just wasted alot of money. I would say hold off, see if the new mbp is what you want and then make your decision. Nothings worse then buying something only to find out you bought the wrong thing. (Glances over at HP laptop sitting on desk)
 
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