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Here's Apple's Full iPad Lineup With New iPad Pro and iPad Air Models
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This lineup makes substantially more sense than the one we had 24 hours ago. I think the 9th Generation iPad and there being a 64GB iPad Air with an M1 in the lineup really didn't make all that much sense. Plus the iPad Pros starting at 256GB means that there's enough room between the low-end Air (which now has a viable starting storage capacity for what it is capable of) and itself. And it's SO good that there's now an affordable 12.9/13-inch iPad again.
My knee-jerk answer, even though I know very little about you’re situation, is you don’t need the Pro. If OLED, M4, and 256GB of storage doesn’t sell you, then there is very little reason to go for the Pro over the Air. The Air will do everything the Pro can do from what I can see, even use the new Pencil. The Pro is for people who 100% KNOW they need/want the Pro. I push my M2 MacBook Air pretty hard and it’s never failed me yet, so I imagine the M2 will be plenty on an iPad. You’ll probably be pretty happy with the Air.
Yup saw that thread subsequently. What an upside down backward naming scheme lol.Bad news:
Apple's New iPad Pro Models Weigh Less Than iPad Air Models
Apple today introduced ultra thin iPad Pro models, which are the thinnest iPad models to date. In fact, Apple is using the tagline "thinpossible" to describe the new tablets, and with that reduction in thickness, there's also been a reduction in weight. Both iPad Pro models are lighter than...forums.macrumors.com
Still, I'm all for thinner and lighter (so long as battery life is still excellent) whether they call it Air, Pro, or whatever.
Curious as to why you would consider upgrading. I have the same 4th gen and it's running everything fine with no indications of slowdown. And the old pencil doesn't even work on the new iPads...
Come on Apple, you couldn't at least use an A15 (3-year-old chip) for the base model????
Battery is the number 1 issue I have. My battery is draining faster and faster every week and I’m having to charge my iPad sometimes 3 times a day. I have noticed a few hiccups in some apps and in Safari and I think an M2 chip will solve some of that. Finally, I could really use the 128GB of storage. I don’t foresee needing more than that, but 64 has become a real limitation for me.
In fact, I went ahead and ordered the new 11 inch Air. I got a pretty decent trade-in deal on my 4th gen and decided to just pull the trigger before the trade-in price comes down.
iPad 9 is now dead somewhat sooner than expected. iPad 10 gets a spec bump and price cut—fair enough.
iPad Air 11in. gets spec bump, slightly larger screen and 128 base storage while holding its price—fair deal. Air 13in. a bit more dear, but not horribly.
iPad Pros go upmarket much like the MacBook Pros—not unexpected.
iPad Air 11in. gets spec bump, slightly larger screen and 128 base storage while holding its price—fair deal. Air 13in. a bit more dear, but not horribly.
iPad Pros go upmarket much like the MacBook Pros—not unexpected.
When they announced a 13" iPad, I was hoping for a 14" or 15" iPad Pro, but no, let's keep them both 13"... Stupid.
All I want for Christmas is an iPad mini with OLED. I legit don’t care what chip or other specs it has.
I agree but I want OLED in that form factor so badly. Also, they could have at least dropped the retail price to 399. 499 is crazy considering the regular iPad’s price drop. I know it goes on sale a lot, but I personally wouldn’t fork over more than 299 for the current mini given the old tech it has.
I agree and, after thinking about it for a few hours, I’ve ordered two Airs - a 13-inch and an 11-inch - for $100 more than a 13-inch Pro all by itself.
Eh, they've been trying to convince people that iPad is a notebook replacement for almost 10 years now.
The Pencil is a mess only because of the legacy devices. Basically Apple offers a “regular” Pencil (USB-C) and a pro (Apple Pencil Pro). Pencils 1 and 2 are mostly for discontinued devices, except that Pencil 1 is compatible with the base iPad and offers pressure support.
Looks like a good lineup. The Air with the increased base storage should be a good iPad for the majority.
Most of the consumer base are still going to go for the (now cheaper) entry level iPad 10.
As the years pass Apple are driving many of us towards the entry level iPads as the prices simply aren't competitive. I have an Air 4th Gen and I can't see myself upgrading to another Air with these costs. My daughter has just bought an iPad 10 and its plenty good enough. When I factor in i am buying an iPhone, Apple watch and an iPad, something has to give and I can't justify £800+ for an iPad.
What is really happening is the base devices are simply getting better to suit your needs which haven’t increased as dramatically as the tech and hardware. I had an iPad Pro 10.5 and replaced it with my current iPad Air 5 which serves me just as well as the 10.5 Pro did.
That is true. My iPad is a consumption device I use to watch videos and browse the internet. A Pro is completely over the top for what I need and I probably didn't need to pay extra for an Air at the time really. It does make decisions rather easy around upgrade time.
And that’s not even including pricy add-ons like Apple Care (and things like keyboards and covers).
Apple should really get rid of the Pencil 1. Pencil (USB-C) doesnt have pressure support but this is for the basic iPad which doesnt have a lot of things. Pencil 1 uses Lightning and there is literally no Lightning iPad left in the line now that the iPad (Gen 9) is gone.
Keep the Pencil 2 for legacy iPad Pro and Air, and for the iPad mini until it's refreshed, and the USB-C Pencil for the basic iPad until that one is refreshed with magnetic charging and release a Pencil 3 (replacing Pencil 2 and Pencil USB-C) and then you'll just have Pencil and Pencil Pro.
Still a mess, if you consider that Apple had to create a tool to check which ones work for your iPad. This was just poor planning. At least the iPad lineup itself is starting to look a little cleaner finally.
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Bite your tongue, sir! It has MANY other uses for others. And I'm not a pilot.