yet everyone still uses 3.5 mm headphones
No, everyone doesn't.
yet everyone still uses 3.5 mm headphones
No, it's not like floppy disks. The 3.5 mm jack is more akin to the Edison Screw, the light bulb socket developed by Thomas Edison in 1909 and which is still the standard. Just because something has been around a long time is not reason enough to ditch it.
Letting the listener choose his own dacs are an audiophiles dream...
It's funny how Gruber states that the complaints play out the same each time Apple removes certain things, and here we are with a thread multiple pages long doing exactly that. "But, but, but I have X dollars of headphones / speakers invested and don't want to change anything about that." - because no one wants to change.
It's been this way forever, regardless of what the change is. Leaded gas to unleaded, incandescent to led bulbs (happening now), floppy (8") to 5.25" to 3.5" to Zip drive, to cd-rom to dvd to thumb drive to streaming. You invest in things that become a standard, but so much we live with daily, at least as far as technology goes, has lifetimes that are fleeting moments, at best, right now.
If Apple is going to take away the headphone jack, they should give you an adapter to allow your current headphones to function
But you can do that now. What's that got to do with binning the headphone jack?
Your, and Gruber's, argument is flawed. Apple is trying to move to a proprietary port from an extremely ubiquitous standard. That's a lot different than the examples you cite, where Apple moved from one open standard to a newer one.
between the two comments, it's pretty obvious that you're the one with the problem here...
NOPE! You're rationalizing a dick move by Apple. If lightning/wireless is better the consumer would naturally adopt it but what we've seen is the exact opposite. People like their 3.5 mm connectors. PERIOD!
Lightning is not better than 3.5 mm, if it was the consumer would have spoken by now. Bluetooth is not better than 3.5 mm, if it was the consumer would have spoken by now. What we do know is that billions of people use 3.5 mm devices all day, ever day without any issues. The only problems with the 3.5 mm connector is it's old and Apple can't monetize it.
It shouldn't matter if it's old tech, if it works and we use it then leave it the freak alone. Old tech only matters to Apple because they lose money by not selling useless new tech like lightning headphones.
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Your wife won't complain when you upgrade her to bluetooth headphones/earbuds because she won't have to deal with wires anymore.
You'll need an adaptor.
1 Adapter
But you can do that now. What's that got to do with binning the headphone jack?
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Your, and Gruber's, argument is flawed. Apple is trying to move to a proprietary port from an extremely ubiquitous standard. That's a lot different than the examples you cite, where Apple moved from one open standard to a newer one.
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...e-12-in-second-biggest-downturn-since-07.htmlEvery now and again you might see that luddite audiophile holdout with his Android phone tethered to his head...
The Edison screw also has a lot of issues, and by all means should be replaced, but it isn't because it's a commodity product. But that's starting to change as lightbulbs move to LED technology and are becoming a long term investment tech product not a short lived consumable.
I disagree that this is comparable to when Apple removed things in the past.
When Apple removed the floppy drive, it was pretty much useless. 1.5mb of storage by 1998 was already laughably small - floppy disks was undeniably on their way out already and pretty much totally replaced by CDs. When Apple removed the CD/DVD drive from computers, those were also on their way out as streaming was taking over music and movies and USB drives were taking over file storage. The same could be said of when Apple got rid of the serial port, etc.
Further, Apple was not the first to make a smartphone without a physical keyboard, there were quite a lot already on the market - Apple was just the first to make it work very well.
The 3.5mm audio jack is not the same. It is not inadequate for the time and thus it is not on its way out and the replacements are not prevalent.
Not just "older" headphones...better headphones.You know you would only need one of these if you want to use older headphones. Pretty sure if Apple goes this route, the included headphones will be lighting port.
What a ridiculous comment. If you already have a DAC and expensive headphones then what difference does it make to you if Apple removes the headphone jack? You're not using it anyway. Why do you need an adaptor is you're ALREADY using an external DAC? Did you even read your comment before you posted?
And who says you need to use an inferior headphone with a built-in DAC (that you assume will be cheap)? There will be plenty of cables/adaptors out there from basic no-frills versions to higher-end ones. Companies like Audeze are separating out the Lightning cable from the headphones, so you only need to buy what you plan to use.
And you're flat out wrong about audio quality. A Lightning to 3.5mm adaptor will be an external DAC with a higher quality AMP than what is in your iPhone. It will actually improve audio quality for many people, especially those with more difficult to drive headphones.,
There is a significant difference between floppy/dvd drives and 3.5 mm headphones. Usage of floppy/DVD drives was already declining when Apple removed them, yet everyone still uses 3.5 mm headphones (and multiple usb ports). Sacrificing user experience for thinness seems to be the only thing Apple does these days.
iPhone 7 isn't out yet, so I agree. Don't try to deny it wouldn't be typical Apple.Fantasize much? Apple isn't doing any of those things.