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Which card offers the best value?

  • Amfeltec 4 bay

    Votes: 2 8.3%
  • Amfeltec 6 bay

    Votes: 5 20.8%
  • Sonnet 4x4

    Votes: 10 41.7%
  • Highpoint 7101

    Votes: 7 29.2%

  • Total voters
    24

V1g0

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Dec 30, 2019
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This aspect is one good reason to have ample RAM for the streamed in data to be cached in RAM so it can be accessed and transferred to the associated application at the very best optimum transfer rates.

I have 96GB RAM, I wonder how much more I would need to keep enough cached to keep up the transfer speeds.
 

tommy chen

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Oct 1, 2018
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....... Samsung would be choice if I needed the best possible drives.

so I only use samsung 970.

I had upgraded my 2014 15" macbookpro to NVMe and thought a 2TB silicon power would be enough,
but in the meantime I've learned a better lesson and exchanged it for a 970evo plus.

with the silicon power i couldn't even view a 5min 4k proresLT file without stopping in between - no problem with the samsung.
 
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Casey P

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Jan 16, 2020
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I'm coming from a 2013 Mac Pro and a bunch of Pegasus Thunderbolt 1 RAID with 5200 RPM HDD. I just want to move my projects to an internal RAID so that I can keep up with multi TB projects and shut down the spinners. It seems like the EVO plus are the safest bet for reliable speeds, but I'm not even sure if it would matter if I was just using QLC drives like the Intel 660p for my purposes. Even so, the Sabrent drives are relatively cheap, have a five year warranty, and seem to have the support to fulfill an RMA. With all the money I save going that route, I can just by a backup drive or two in case a drive fails.
 

chfilm

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I'm coming from a 2013 Mac Pro and a bunch of Pegasus Thunderbolt 1 RAID with 5200 RPM HDD. I just want to move my projects to an internal RAID so that I can keep up with multi TB projects and shut down the spinners. It seems like the EVO plus are the safest bet for reliable speeds, but I'm not even sure if it would matter if I was just using QLC drives like the Intel 660p for my purposes. Even so, the Sabrent drives are relatively cheap, have a five year warranty, and seem to have the support to fulfill an RMA. With all the money I save going that route, I can just by a backup drive or two in case a drive fails.
I’m also eyeing the new Sabrent PCI4 rockets. They seem to be even faster than the 870plus. Is there anything about them that should be a red flag for video editors?
 

Casey P

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Jan 16, 2020
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I’m also eyeing the new Sabrent PCI4 rockets. They seem to be even faster than the 870plus. Is there anything about them that should be a red flag for video editors?

My concern would be that I haven't seen a review whether the new PCIE 4 controller works as well with the PCIE 3 board as the previous generation. I would guess that the Evo Plus is a better option at those prices.
 

chfilm

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So it seems there’s no clear winner but in the vote the sonnet wins. Why? Because it’s the most user friendly solution because it requires no modding? Because the fan is really quiet?
 

V1g0

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Dec 30, 2019
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So it seems there’s no clear winner but in the vote the sonnet wins. Why? Because it’s the most user friendly solution because it requires no modding? Because the fan is really quiet?

I bought the Amfeltec simply to get max storage with the least use of pcie slots. While they don’t have a web store and charge a lot for shipping, they are responsive and helpful via email.

On a cost standpoint alone, the 4x boards are a better deal and if I knew I would not need the extra slots, I would have probably gone for 2x sonnet boards. From everything I have read/ heard... the quiet design, quality build, and customer support seem to set sonnet above highpoint.
 

deconstruct60

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Mar 10, 2009
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Anyone know where the Sonnet is in stock? I ordered from B&H last month and now they are saying mid-march...

There is a "where to buy" link on the product's web page.


There is a long list. Can poke around with some of the smaller players. Took about four minutes to find that (somewhat ironically) OWC has a "ships in 24-48" hours link. https://eshop.macsales.com/item/Sonnet Technologies/FUSSSD4X4E3/

(their own brand cards are "same day" shipping so perhaps the 48 hours is a cross sales opportunity. or maybe folks just aren't looking there. If go through their options for Mac Pro , internal storage . it doesn't pop up as one of the alternatives. So they are not giving it top visibility at all. )

Since it is out of stock in most of the "obvious" places the smaller ones probably won't hold up very long.

Slightly surprising in that with the "ad placement" in the WWDC presentation for the Mac Pro that they didn't make a few more in the span between June and December 2019. Almost certainly they didn't want to make too many, but Apple's SSD pricing is just relatively high and the T2 is 'stuck' on the PCH bus (so upper end throughput is no match). Lots of competitors though so it would be a cloudy projection.

Not sure if this is more Mac Pro sold than they though or more Mac Pros sold with smaller T2 drives than Apple thought.
 

Adult80HD

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Nov 19, 2019
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Turns out my Slate VRS8 won't work unless Full Security is enabled, which means no HIGHPOINT 7101A-1
The PCIe setting requires for the T2 chip to be turned off, and audio will not flow to any DAW.

FIX

I did buy an AMFELTEC Squid.... https://www.amfeltec.com/pci-express-gen-3-carrier-board-for-m-2-ssd/
No drivers, plug and play, and all my DAW's (Logic Pro and Studio One) are working great.

You can run the Highpoint card without loading their drivers, so the Squid card shouldn't have been a necessity. You just have to use software RAID and not the Highpoint utility.
 

TimmyCrook

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Jan 9, 2019
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You can run the Highpoint card without loading their drivers, so the Squid card shouldn't have been a necessity. You just have to use software RAID and not the Highpoint utility.
Hm. Not sure. I guess i could uninstall the Highpoint drivers. I will give it a shot. Yet, their customer service is abhorrent. I did setup my RAID w disk utility in MacOS.
 

tsialex

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Hm. Not sure. I guess i could uninstall the Highpoint drivers. I will give it a shot. Yet, their customer service is abhorrent. I did setup my RAID w disk utility in MacOS.
You don't need the HighPoint drivers - or for that matter, manufacturer supplied drivers for any PLX/Broadcom switch based cards since the Darwin kernel already has full native support since 10.5 at least.
 
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basslik

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Feb 22, 2008
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After returning OWC card, very happy with sonnet card so far. Fast sustained speeds and minimal noise.
May I ask why did you send back the OWC ?, was it a noise issue ?. I've always been happy with their products, although some items are overpriced, but I'm seriously considering on buying the M4.
 
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Gr1f

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Oct 1, 2009
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I was wrong about the cheaper second tier nvme. They are using Toshiba chips and they seem to have recently changed the controller. Also, some of them are now single sided. It is a bit of rabbit hole when you try to figure out what is going on, but this post seems to be a good resource. https://www.reddit.com/r/NewMaxx/
Interesting read that! thanks!

I've been experiencing slow-downs when generating After Effects previews that are read/writing to 2x Sabrent Rockets 1T in R0. I wonder does it relate to cache issues. I might try a couple of 970 Evo Plus when I can
 
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