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I mean I sort of get the buyer's regret you are taking about, but that is part of many things in life basically. Ultimately you are still getting what you originally thought was worth that price, since otherwise you wouldn't have paid it.

Fair enough response. BTW, I didn't pay for it...NT1440's mom bought it for me ;-)
 
Fair enough response. BTW, I didn't pay for it...NT1440's mom bought it for me ;-)
From beyond the grave?

Btw, I haven’t played with an X yet, faceID doesn’t work sideways? I wonder if it has to do with angle the current version’s dot projectors emit at? I remember reading about Vcels (I hope I got that acronym right) and the narrow field they currently operate at. I’ll have to see if I can find that article....
 
From beyond the grave?

Btw, I haven’t played with an X yet, faceID doesn’t work sideways? I wonder if it has to do with angle the current version’s dot projectors emit at? I remember reading about Vcels (I hope I got that acronym right) and the narrow field they currently operate at. I’ll have to see if I can find that article....

Nope, it doesn't work horizontally, which is kind of a pain.

Sorry for the (attempted) juvenile humor on my part ;-)
 
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Nope, it doesn't work horizontally, which is kind of a pain.

Sorry for the (attempted) juvenile humor on my part ;-)
I’m just yanking your chain man, she’s fine I just visited her yesterday. I just like doing that when people bring mothers into jokes because reactions are usually hilarious. Admittedly I was being a dick so no hard feelings I hope.

Let me see if I can find that article I was talking about. This is a new type of production method for either the dot projector or the flood illuminated but right now Apple’s the only company on the planet ($$$) with the resources to get them produced at this quantity. I think the next gen I’d these sensors may allow for a wider projection angle which explains why it’s not possible for it to work right in horizontal mode. Give me a few, it was an interesting read.

Ah, VCSEL is what it’s called. Here’s just a taste while I dig up the technical article:https://iphone.appleinsider.com/art...uggests-face-id-coming-to-all-iphones-in-2018
 
Frankly, you sound selfish. When I got TouchID, I didn't think "I paid lots of money so this should be exclusive to me". I thought "this is so awesome Apple needs to put it on everything ASAP". In fact my complaint was that TouchID took too long to spread out to all the devices.

Lowering prices, adding improvements, and increasing the rate of progress are all positive things. I'm supportive of Apple making improvements as fast as possible.
 
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Frankly, you sound selfish. When I got TouchID, I didn't think "I paid lots of money so this should be exclusive to me". I thought "this is so awesome Apple needs to put it on everything ASAP". In fact my complaint was that TouchID took too long to spread out to all the devices.

Lowering prices, adding improvements, and increasing the rate of progress are all positive things. I'm supportive of Apple making improvements as fast as possible.

Yes, I'm "selfishly" frustrated that Apple raised the price of the X to $1,000.00, then will potentially lower the price, improve the tech and add extras in less than a year. Of course I am frustrated.

Lowering prices and making improvements is a good things. Absolutely.
 
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Yes, I'm "selfishly" frustrated that Apple raised the price of the X to $1,000.00, then will potentially lower the price, improve the tech and add extras in less than a year. Of course I am frustrated.

Lowering prices and making improvements is a good things. Absolutely.

Apple didn’t _raise_ the price of the iPhone X, that was the actual starting price point. Two different things.

Also, The lowered price Isn’t confirmed, other than we can possibly expect a 6.1 LCD iPhone making sacrifices with 3D Touch hardware, no wireless charging and a metal casing at a cheaper entry price. Having more options for the consumer is better than having just one model.
 
Apple didn’t _raise_ the price of the iPhone X, that was the actual starting price point. Two different things.

Also, The lowered price Isn’t confirmed, other than we can possibly expect a 6.1 LCD iPhone making sacrifices with 3D Touch hardware, no wireless charging and a metal casing at a cheaper entry price. Having more options for the consumer is better than having just one model.

Ok, Apple raised the price of the highest priced iPhone to $1,000.00 (not specifically the X). You know what I meant. Semantics.

I know that the lowered price is not confirmed. It's why previous posts have referenced the price as "potentially" being lowered. I understand anything regarding 2018 iPhones are simply rumors at this point.

I seriously think some people on this site work for Apple, own Apple stocks, etc. The amount of defensiveness regarding this company is astounding.
 
Ok, Apple raised the price of the highest priced iPhone to $1,000.00 (not specifically the X). You know what I meant. Semantics.

I know that the lowered price is not confirmed. It's why previous posts have referenced the price as "potentially" being lowered. I understand anything regarding 2018 iPhones are simply rumors at this point.

I seriously think some people on this site work for Apple, own Apple stocks, etc. The amount of defensiveness regarding this company is astounding.
People have different opinions on things, it doesn't mean that most only fall into a group of those who just always bash or defend, plenty of range on a whole variety of topics. Just because someone might disagree or have a different take on something doesn't mean they are simply doing it because of some supposed blind allegiance to one group or another.
 
People have different opinions on things, it doesn't mean that most only fall into a group of those who just always bash or defend, plenty of range on a whole variety of topics. Just because someone might disagree or have a different take on something doesn't mean they are simply doing it because of some supposed blind allegiance to one group or another.

Fair enough. This topic has digressed.

Will the iPhone X be able to use Face ID in landscape mode if iOS 12 enables it for newer devices?
 
Fair enough. This topic has digressed.

Will the iPhone X be able to use Face ID in landscape mode if iOS 12 enables it for newer devices?
We can only wait and see, realistically speaking. But hopefully that would be the case, assuming that becomes available to begin with.
 
Ok, Apple raised the price of the highest priced iPhone to $1,000.00 (not specifically the X). You know what I meant. Semantics.

You initially said by Apple ‘raised’ the price to $1000 for the iPhone X was not factually accurate, I was not debating semantics, that was the initial price point They chose for this new generation of iPhone to start at. Yes, I knew what you originally meant, however; your wording was not appropriately conveyed. I merely Indicated that for the sake of discussion or any confusion to other readers. .

I know that the lowered price is not confirmed. It's why previous posts have referenced the price as "potentially" being lowered. I understand anything regarding 2018 iPhones are simply rumors at this point.

Which is why I referenced the 6.1 LCD iPhone in my previous post. The reason being, is if Apple offers this iPhone, they may not lower the price of the 5.8 iPhone X and retain it where it is, offering the 6.1 iPhone as a cheaper alternative with lesser technology, but include iPhone X ‘Like’ features. I don’t think you understood the context of my previous post.

I seriously think some people on this site work for Apple, own Apple stocks, etc. The amount of defensiveness regarding this company is astounding.

Not one word of my previous post was ‘defensive’ whatsoever, if anything, I would say your previous post(s) seem rather [defensive if you will] with your own replies to other members in your own thread.

As for you stating “I seriously think some other people on the site work for Apple own Apple stock etc.” Actually, Apple has a policy in place where employees _cannot_ participate in websites like this. Also, I would say that’s a good assumption that there are shareholders/stockholders that are heavily involved in Apple, especially given that this is an Apple related website discussing mainly Apple products, services and the company as a whole.
 
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You initially said by Apple ‘raised’ the price to $1000 for the iPhone X was not factually accurate, I was not debating semantics, that was the initial price point They chose for this new generation of iPhone to start at. Yes, I knew what you originally meant, however; your wording was not appropriately conveyed. I merely Indicated that for the sake of discussion or any confusion to other readers. .



Which is why I referenced the 6.1 LCD iPhone in my previous post. The reason being, is Apple offers this iPhone, they may not lower the price of the 5.8 iPhone X and retain it where it is, offering the 6.1 iPhone as a cheaper alternative with lesser technology, but include iPhone X ‘Like’ features. I don’t think you understood the context of my previous post.



Not one word of my previous post was ‘defensive’ whatsoever, if anything, I would say your previous post(s) seem rather [defensive if you will] with your own replies to other members in your own thread.

As for you stating “I seriously think some other people on the site work for Apple own Apple stock etc.” Actually, Apple has a policy in place where employees _cannot_ participate in websites like this. Also, I would say that’s a good assumption that there are shareholders/stockholders that are heavily involved in Apple, especially given that this is an Apple related website discussing mainly Apple products, services and the company as a whole.

I’ve already attempted to steer this conversation back to the original topic/question.
 
I want it to pretty badly that I'm taking any semblance of a 'yes' on a rumours forum as good reason to do backflips. :D
 
The car analogy only works if you're talking about buying the first year of a new generation car and then the manufacturer then changes it the next year to a newer generation (and you have that one year that was the only one made like it) and sells it for 15% less than what you paid.
 
I can’t believe I bought an 06 Accord only for Honda to turn around and release an 07 model, the nerve!
I don't believe this was the OP's point. However, with apple, anything new is an early adoption purchase. As apple fans we should now straight away that the next release will have better...well everything.
 
I certainly hope so. To be honest, a lot of these "next generation 2018" iPhone X rumors sound like a slap in the face for those of us who forked out $1,000.00 for the current iPhone X (or in my case, $1,200.00 for 256 gb). I understand Apple has a bottom line, but hearing that prices for updated models may drop by $100.00 or so, updated Face I.D./smaller notches, faster processors, better cameras, fast charging out-of-the-box and the current iPhone X being discontinued...all 10-months after release...it's frustrating. Again, I understand they have to sell phones, and technology advances, but it still seems like a slap in the face for those of us who spent A LOT of money on the iPhone X.
What were you expecting? Every year there are processor improvements, camera upgrades, and design tweaks. You, me, and everyone else that bought a X got what we paid for: a tremendous device. Of course next years models will be better and likely cheaper, but that’s the way technology progresses. I’m very happy with my purchase regardless of the next iPhone is similar to it or if it transforms into a car and drives me around.
 
What were you expecting? Every year there are processor improvements, camera upgrades, and design tweaks. You, me, and everyone else that bought a X got what we paid for: a tremendous device. Of course next years models will be better and likely cheaper, but that’s the way technology progresses. I’m very happy with my purchase regardless of the next iPhone is similar to it or if it transforms into a car and drives me around.

Some Times I think technology is underappreciated for as much as an iPhone can do now, considering that we have 3-D with facial mapping, contactless Pay, Camera capabilities, ect. When you read more complaints on a tech form, it’s usually a minority, the majority are likely more than content with the iPhone X and what it’s capable of and where the future is leading.
 
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I certainly hope so. To be honest, a lot of these "next generation 2018" iPhone X rumors sound like a slap in the face for those of us who forked out $1,000.00 for the current iPhone X (or in my case, $1,200.00 for 256 gb). I understand Apple has a bottom line, but hearing that prices for updated models may drop by $100.00 or so, updated Face I.D./smaller notches, faster processors, better cameras, fast charging out-of-the-box and the current iPhone X being discontinued...all 10-months after release...it's frustrating. Again, I understand they have to sell phones, and technology advances, but it still seems like a slap in the face for those of us who spent A LOT of money on the iPhone X.

A new iPhone has been released every single year since the very first iPhone - for a decade straight. It shouldn't be a surprise in the least, or in any way a slap in the face.

Don't buy phones - jump on iUP or similar and get it out of your hands after a year and get the new one immediately. The joke is on the customers that buy them outright, IMO.
 
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A new iPhone has been released every single year since the very first iPhone - for a decade straight. It shouldn't be a surprise in the least, or in any way a slap in the face.

Don't buy phones - jump on iUP or similar and get it out of your hands after a year and get the new one immediately. The joke is on the customers that buy them outright, IMO.

I used to be one that purchased my iPhones out right just for the sake of owning them and not having any ties to the carrier. But now with the increase in cost to smart phones and being I upgrade almost annually, I don’t see the value in purchasing them out right anymore, especially being they don’t hold value once a new iPhone is released. As you said, take advantage of upgrade programs (Which can include Applecare as
Well) where someone can achieve the latest iPhone without having to spend XYZ in full.
 
The standard business model for the last ten years is news to you?

“Slap in the face”, come on.

Agreed. These are consumer products. Just like the auto industry this is just standard business.

Tech gets better and cheaper. It is what it is.

Those who want the newest anything will always pay that initial premium price.
 
As iApplelove mentioned, when it comes to New technology, you just pay higher premiums for it, because of component costs and manufacturing reasons, similarly to how LG is one of the few TV manufacturers that has an OLED display offered, but for an exorbitant price. It’s an excellent quality TV, but you’re certainly paying an extensive amount more money for something over LCD technology.
 
I used to be one that purchased my iPhones out right just for the sake of owning them and not having any ties to the carrier. But now with the increase in cost to smart phones and being I upgrade almost annually, I don’t see the value in purchasing them out right anymore, especially being they don’t hold value once a new iPhone is released. As you said, take advantage of upgrade programs (Which can include Applecare as
Well) where someone can achieve the latest iPhone without having to spend XYZ in full.

Jumped on that ship last year so guessing I’ll get the new one this year.
 
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