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How bad can this rumour reporting get?

theSeb said:
There is another thing that I've completely forgotten about...

The E5 - 24## series

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Specifically the E5-2440

This is getting more and more complicated.
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It's possible - the spec is in line with 9to5 and the price is more in line with past price points than those of the 2600s. The specs for the other 9to5 configurations would appear to require a different motherboard chipset, however: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_bridge . The 1200s, 1600s, 2400s, 2600s and 4600s are all server chips.
 
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ahahahha

2 years and no base GPU upgrade

ahahah

those cards are not even manufactured for PC anymore

trololol :D
 
Wouldn't it be funny if the new mac pro was the old mac pro? :rolleyes: I think someone at 9 to 5 had some spiked coolaid.

Actually I've solved it. The 5770 is the upgrade gpu. The stock will be the GT8800!! :D
 
This may be Apple's way of telling us they don't want to build this machine anymore.
 
xgman said:
Or maybe Apple's way of telling 9 to 5 to shut the heck up!
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It seems like someone just made them up or someone at Apple released these on purpose to find the leak. Someone on the front page discussion pointed out, correctly, that these new Sandy Bridge Xeons support quad channel memory, therefore even the memory specs in these rumours do not make any sense.

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Cindori said:
ahahahha

2 years and no base GPU upgrade

ahahah

those cards are not even manufactured for PC anymore

trololol :D
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Well, you never know. Maybe they're getting them from this place, which claims to have 12 in stock. :p

http://www.videocardshop.co.uk/viewproduct.aspx?part=HD-577A-ZNFC
 
The rumors haven't always been reliable, and that could even be a listing glitch...

...but with the way the whole Thunderbolt/GPU situation is now, I don't think it's worth making a fuss over yet. And even if the 5770 was the default GPU, it's just that, the default GPU. The 5770 as the lowest end option is still not a bad choice for Apple, who's used cards like the 7300 GT before.
 
goMac said:
The rumors haven't always been reliable, and that could even be a listing glitch...

...but with the way the whole Thunderbolt/GPU situation is now, I don't think it's worth making a fuss over yet. And even if the 5770 was the default GPU, it's just that, the default GPU. The 5770 as the lowest end option is still not a bad choice for Apple, who's used cards like the 7300 GT before.
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The 5770 wasn't that great at the time. Today they could just use a 7770 or something like that. It's not like the starting prices are that different. It's just a bad idea to leave things that far behind, especially when the starting configuration starts much higher in price than most other brands.
 
thekev said:
The 5770 wasn't that great at the time. Today they could just use a 7770 or something like that. It's not like the starting prices are that different. It's just a bad idea to leave things that far behind, especially when the starting configuration starts much higher in price than most other brands.
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Haha... Compared to the GT 120 the 5770 was a GREAT starting card. :)

We'll see. It'll all be out of the bag in two hours anyway.
 
thekev said:
It's just a bad idea to leave things that far behind, especially when the starting configuration starts much higher in price than most other brands.
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If being discontinued it isn't so bad. Nor if they are leaking different model numbers and configs through different internal channels trying to flush out exactly who is leaking the info. (to be followed up with some folks getting fired).


Not going to be surprising if the Mac Pro isn't updated today. That doesn't mean it is discontinued... just that they aren't doing an update right now.
 
theSeb said:
Someone on the front page discussion pointed out, correctly, that these new Sandy Bridge Xeons support quad channel memory, therefore even the memory specs in these rumours do not make any sense.
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Technically not true. The new E5 2400 series still have the old 3 memory channel constraint and fewer PCI-e lanes. The can still be labeled as "Xeons" and Sandy Bridge E5's even. They also have only one QPI link to couple into a pair. The missing memory controller and PCI-e lanes means that one QPI link can keep up with the traffic. They have a different socket though due to all that 'missing' stuff.

However, those were not intended for the workstation market. More a limited server market where TDP and price were less elastic and needed to be lower.

It would be dubious to use those in a workstation though. Even though the socket difference could be masked with the Mac Pro CPU/RAM daughtercard, the PCI-e lane reductions and choking back the memory is a bad idea if going to compete against full fledged E5 1600/2600 in the marketplace.
 
If their really update mac pro with

Xeon W3565 Quad 3.2
and
2x Xeon E5645 Six Core 2.4
 
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Amethyst said:
If their really update mac pro with

Xeon W3565 Quad 3.2
and
2x Xeon E5645 Six Core 2.4
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I'd laugh. Does seem like these specs are possibly ones that they considered a while ago for an update or something like that. I trust that 9to5 got them from a source they trust, my issue is that they didn't actually consider them.
 
9to5 have confirmed those are definitely the specs they are seeing :confused:
 
Turns out they were right after all :eek:


theSeb said:
This bad



3.2 GHz Sandy Bridge Xeon Quad Core, eh? Oh wait, it does not exist. Never mind a 2.4 GHz 6 core suitable for dual CPU use. Unless I've gone blind due to all the vodka I've been drinking recently.

A Radeon 5770? Sure, Apple does not always use the latest and fastest cards, but using a 3 year old card that's already in the current 2 year old Mac Pro would be a new low.
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Blue Sun said:
They are either some serious typos, or they know nothing like the rest of us.
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...or Apple has decided to give pro users the finger.

Sadly, this rumor turned out to be spot on...the specs seemed like last year's model because they ARE last year's model.
 
milo said:
...or Apple has decided to give pro users the finger.

Sadly, this rumor turned out to be spot on...the specs seemed like last year's model because they ARE last year's model.
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They are actually the two years ago models. The only model from 2011 is the "new" dual CPU 12 core option - the 3.06. Wow.
 
yup. this report was about as accurate as they can get - who would've thought. Guess Mac Pro is out of the question for me now. What's Apple thinking? How much effort would it take for AT LEAST an updated GPU or newer CPU? What the hell took them so long, they hardly changed anything!
 
Yeah, it's disappointing. On the other hand I still need a Mac Pro, and the 6-core is now NZ$3053 cheaper than it was yesterday...
 
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