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MonksMac

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Hello I'm new. (duh!) I need some ideas to pesuade my parents that I need a new computer.Preferably a Macintosh.
 

TheMasin9

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MonksMac said:
Hello I'm new. (duh!) I need some ideas to pesuade my parents that I need a new computer.Preferably a Macintosh.

prolly one of the most newbish posts ever, but heres some things to get u started:
-www.apple.com/switch
-no viruses, thats right, none, nada zip zilch zero windoze has a library of over 500,000 viruses, a successful virus has not yet been launched for OSX
-plug and play-you plug in most any peripheral and its more than likely to work
-online speed and security-no pop ups, no adware, no spyware, just the sites you want to see
-included software-osx, imovie, iphoto, itunes, idvd, garageband, quicktime, addressbook, all included free on a mac, windows software packages of this caliber would cost hundreds

hope this is enuf to get you started
 

ahunter3

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Well, let's start with you telling us what you've got now, and what kinds of things you use the computer for, or expect/need to use it for in the next few years.
 

doucy2

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also tell us when you'll be using the mac for
those are good guidelines for what you need
 

MonksMac

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Thanks

Perhaps I should have said I was lurker. Anyway I would plan on using it for Music,Web,School Projects, and Games maybe (Sims 2?). Perhaps iMovie and Garageband. Definately iPhoto because I have a digital camera I would like to use. Hope that summerizes it.
Thank you so Much!:D
 

doucy2

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Flying Llama said:
In your situation, I would recommend the iBook. You can get it with a 12'' or 14'' screen. Check it out. :)
ibook would prob have trouble with sims 2
unless it a 1.42 ghz

i would reccomend a powerbook if you have the cash
or a g4 powermac (will do everything perfectly and its easily upgradable)
great 1st mac
 

crazysaxchris

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If you would like a desktop or a notebook. A good desktop would be a used Powermac G4, they are still some what powerful and is a great starter mac. Well what is you budget? A new one would be good because you can have lots of software titles and is perfect for a beginner, like flying lama siad an ibook probably would be perfect in your pricerange.
 

Makosuke

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Arguments for: No Viruses is huge. You're saving money right off the bat not having to worry about a Norton subscription or whatever, and it's a nice feeling of safety.

Depending on your age and what your parents want you to be doing, hyping the creative possibilities of iMovie and Garage Band is worthwhile as well--there are no equivalently cheap and easy programs on Windows, and you can learn a lot from either.

Flying Llama said:
In your situation, I would recommend the iBook. You can get it with a 12'' or 14'' screen. Check it out. :)
Good recommendation, unless you never intend to use it as a portable, in which case an iMac might be a good alternative (particularly if you ever do get into video editing or Garage Band--the bigger hard drive and faster processor will help). If you want to do anything more than very basic gaming, you should probably lean toward the iMac (or maybe a PowerBook) because of its better graphics chip.

For you a MacMini probably isn't the best option unless price is a major factor (even then, spending just a bit more on a refurb iMac G5 or iBook is still a better idea) or you already have a very nice monitor. This is based on your mention of Garage Band and iMovie (and games).

If this is a Christmas thing (I assume it is), go for it. If not, it might be worth holding out until January to see if anything shiny and new comes out, but I probably wouldn't wait were I in your shoes.
 

MonksMac

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I don't really need a portable. I would kinda prefer new since it's easier. I was thinking a iMac G5 would be good. I only have a $100 set aside and it's not much. Also I was in the CompUSA last weekend playing of course with the macs. So I was messing with the new 17in iSight and my dad comes over to tell me lets go. He then sees i'm playing with a mac. He says "Geez are you gonna be a Mac Freak!?" :( :( :( :( I was so sad. They're PCers all the way.
 

Laser47

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Its about twice as hard convincing you parents about getting you a mac when they dont like macs. Believe me, I know :)
 

Sun Baked

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What is you parents e-mail address so we can send them the link to the $600 Dell Laptop that's faster than the Apple Notebook, or the spectacular $600 Dell desktop with free printer. :p :D
 

trainguy77

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I feel for ya. Don't get down. I can tell you know what is good when you see it. I have used macs for many years, i still have to use PCs at school and i can't stand them, they are so clunky and slow. In comparison i use the 1ghz PCs at school, and i use a 1ghz emac at home, I the speed difference is huge. The mac runs when better.
 

doucy2

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Sun Baked said:
What is you parents e-mail address so we can send them the link to the $600 Dell Laptop that's faster than the Apple Notebook, or the spectacular $600 Dell desktop with free printer. :p :D
i want that e-mail
so i can send the a virus

the you can tell them macs dont get viruses lol and prove a point lol

my parents always used pcs
so i bought them an ibook on yea they love it and still use pc for email
they will be completly switched over by the end of the yea (no pc using for them)
mac wa sthe best thing that ever happened to them
 

Blackheart

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How about you tell us what their reasons for disliking Macs are. I'm willing to bet they're just the same BS that's been getting spread around for the last 5 years.
 

maestro55

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Its about twice as hard convincing you parents about getting you a mac when they dont like macs. Believe me, I know

SO TRUE... my dad started using Macs in 1984 when they were introduced. He used Macs as his main system up until a a few years ago when he got heavy into Linux. Now he runs mostly PCs (Mix of Windows and Linux) and only keeps a few Macintosh machines around. How does someone make that switch, I wouldn't know. My dad thinks I am nuts for wanting to go into networking and loving macs like I do, but I figure I could SSH into Unix servers from a PowerBook, so I would not be missing much :)

Anyhow.. hopefully your dad lets you get what you want. I won't have a new Mac for another six months, but it gives me something to look forward to :)

Good luck.. maybe you will convert your parents into the Mac world, and I need to work on converting my father back. It is sad to see the X serve at his office that is not even being used.
 

MonksMac

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Yeah he also asked why I was using them i said They look cool. He said but you can only buy expensive apple software. Blah.:( Maybe a Mini since I do have a moniter CRT 21". As for Dell... my dad makes his own. Excep for our HP laptop. That won't connect to our wireless network with built in reciver. And Yes I would want it for Christmas. Yes I am quite good with computers. I once asked the computer teacher why we didn't use firefox. No reply. IE on a 667 Celeron is terrible!
 

trainguy77

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Will you need office for mac? Just a reminder. You may also want to go the free alternatives. I don't know if they would be ok for your purposes.
 

MonksMac

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Free alternatives would be fine as long as it's word and Powerpoint compatible. The "mac freak" comment really hurt. I still remember playing with the G4 iMacs at compusa a few years ago they were the best. too bad I didn't know what they were then.:(
 

spinne1

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Because your parents are obviously going to try and steer you away from the Mac, you need to take matters into your own hands. Save about $300 and get a decent used G4 Powermac off ebay (Dual-500 Mhz up to maybe single processor 773 Mhz at that price). Or save $600 and get a mini and a memory upgrade. I would go with the G4 Powermac if it were me for lots of reasons: upgradeable video card, room for lots of ram, option for various PCI cards, upgradeable processor, easier to use dual-monitors, among others.

Sure, the older machines won't run the latest games, but for almost all other tasks, the machine will feel zippy enough (edit--you also will have trouble with multi-track audio recording and video editing--both will be slower, and somewhat limited)

If you can't use ebay, consider finding a close friend who will use ebay for you (preferably your parents unless they would even nix that--if so, forget it until you move out)

I use an old Mac for financial reasons, but rarely do I feel slighted because my Mac does almost everything I want it to do quite speedily. I even was able to play Myst IV on it. Myst V, however, is out of the question due to my slow processor and old video card.

Keep also in mind that technological wizardry does not equal fun in computer games. There are MANY fun games that will run well on my old computer, or any G4 Powermac. I have at least 50 CD-rom games, and several hundred more shareware/freeware games.

Good luck. It really is better over here.
 

MonksMac

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I really wouldn't be heart broken if I could not play sims because I already have the PC version. Actually I was suprised it runs well enough on a 1500+(yes the one from 2001!) with Geforce 4 4200 Ti. I just want a mac so bad!! If it was only my mother i could convince her because she doesn't know a thing bout comps. Darn Dad!

Our family eMail comp already has a virus. :D
 

MonksMac

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Homework

God I really hate Solving for Variables by dividing and mult.
Ughh my brain died .
 
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