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How do the same bugs keep popping up in each iOS?

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Is each version of iOS being made by different people? Each version of iOS, they keep breaking it and breaking it, and breaking it. There's always a battery issue with each release. Stuttering, freezing, bricking.

And just when enough time has passed, when they've released the umpteenth update, a new iOS version comes out.
 
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Each version has new and changed code so there's always a good chance of something not working out correctly here or there. The bugs are generally not the same ones, or at least not often caused by the same things (even if some of them might be similar).
 
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As C DM stated, its entirely down to coding and how complex it is. Whenever you change a line of code it can have consequences, but those consequences are unknown until the software is released to the masses. When Apple engineers are using the devices in 'alpha' testing, they will not be able to cover nearly as many scenarios as beta testers and the public after the release. Take the weird camera flash/overheat bug. No way Apple would have been able to find that without the public, its too bizarre. Heck, I wouldn't even have noticed it without the thread about it. I have never once done the steps to replicate the bug.

Now when it comes to battery life and stuttering. That is most likely due to a corrupt install of iOS. Reset all settings or a restore will usually fix that. There have been few software updates that actually hurt the battery life, its usually another factor involved. Same with stuttering and lag. Its not usually the OS itself but something else causing the issue. Take the iPhone 7 closing app animation. Its not that the phone is lagging, its the fact there the phone is running an additional wallpaper animation compared to previous iOS devices.
 
With every new update comes new stutters, lags and glitches on basic aspects of iOS that's been unchanged for years. Like the status bar. Even just scrolling in Safari. Copy and paste. I mean this is just basic stuff.
 
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With every new update comes new stutters, lags and glitches on basic aspects of iOS that's been unchanged for years. Like the status bar. Even just scrolling in Safari. Copy and paste. I mean this is just basic stuff.
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Zero issues here with my iPhone 7Plus and Air 2. My 6s didn't have issues either before trading it in. The only issue I have with iOS 10 is the keyboard switching bug.
 
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freepomme said:
With every new update comes new stutters, lags and glitches on basic aspects of iOS that's been unchanged for years. Like the status bar. Even just scrolling in Safari. Copy and paste. I mean this is just basic stuff.
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Most basics seem to work fine for most people.
 
iOS 8

"The company released iOS 8.0.2 Thursday, after widespread reports the update killed users' cell signals and rendered Touch ID useless."
-Mashable

iOS 9

"Early iOS 9.0.2 problems include issues connecting to LTE, and issues with battery life."
-GottaBeMobile

I mean I could go on. My case can't be deconstructed. I know there's bugs with each release and that's just the normal order of things, but I wouldn't exactly give the people who work on iOS ... I don't exactly view them in high regards. People are scared of iOS updates. They just are.

But my point is, every iteration of iOS, they keep breaking the same thing over and over and over. You would've thought they would've gotten better at this.

And just when they've finally gotten settled into a particular version of iOS... Just when all the bugs are just about ironed out. it starts all over again.
 
freepomme said:
iOS 8

"The company released iOS 8.0.2 Thursday, after widespread reports the update killed users' cell signals and rendered Touch ID useless."
-Mashable

iOS 9

"Early iOS 9.0.2 problems include issues connecting to LTE, and issues with battery life."
-GottaBeMobile

I mean I could go on. My case can't be deconstructed. I know there's bugs with each release and that's just the normal order of things, but I wouldn't exactly give the people who work on iOS ... I don't exactly view them in high regards. People are scared of iOS updates. They just are.

But my point is, every iteration of iOS, they keep breaking the same thing over and over and over. You would've thought they would've gotten better at this.

And just when they've finally gotten settled into a particular version of iOS... Just when all the bugs are just about ironed out. it starts all over again.
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Different issues (and/or different causes of issues) with different releases. Reality of complex software releases.
 
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It seems you don't really comprehend the difference between what you can see and what's going on under the skin op. Example: Metal. Over the last couple of major releases every single pixel on screen has been transitioned to a completely different display model and drivers. Just because it doesn't look different, doesn't mean it isn't coded differently.
 
I think of it like Windows, Windows software was never plagued with these major issues like you see with iOS.

Every iOS version comes out not even being able to do the basics. iOS 10 was made for the iPhone 7 and yet they already have an update for it.

So here you are buying this new iPhone 7 and the controls for the lightning headphones are buggy.

I don't know it's just... if the public gets to experience all of these bugs. I wonder what's going on in the betas. How buggy must that be?

I'm not quick to say, "Zero issues here with my iPhone 7." Like MlRollin91 posted. He better not be a developer.

Every bug I find I document!
 
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I think of it like Windows, Windows software was never plagued with these major issues like you see with iOS.

Every iOS version comes out not even being able to do the basics. iOS 10 was made for the iPhone 7 and yet they already have an update for it.

So here you are buying this new iPhone 7 and the controls for the lightning headphones are buggy.

I don't know it's just... if the public gets to experience all of these bugs. I wonder what's going on in the betas. How buggy must that be?

I'm not quick to say, "Zero issues here with my iPhone 7." Like MlRollin91 posted. He better not be a developer.

Every bug I find I document!
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I report every single bug I find that effects usage of the device. A little stutte for lag doesn't effect how I use my device. The safari keyboard bug is another story completely. I currently have 9 bug report tickets open for 5 different issues. But they aren't world ending issues. Not sure what being a developer or not has to do with me saying I don't have issues.
 
Because the developers are the ones that get the betas. And they're letting too much slide. Like what you just said about lag. You can't address it. But people notice everything. That's why I made this thread.

I mean the iOS 10.1 beta 2 I'm using right now introduces a new bug where you can't even swipe to delete in iMessage.

I mean... ¯\(°_O)
 
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Because the developers are the ones that get the betas. And they're letting too much slide. Like what you just said about lag. You can't address it. But people notice everything. That's why I made this thread.

I mean the iOS 10.1 beta 2 I'm using right now introduces a new bug where you can't even swipe to delete in iMessage.

I mean... ¯\(°_O)
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Is that a known bug that is affecting other uses with that build as well, or perhaps some odd glitch of some sort on your device?
 
I don't remember in iOS8, but both iOS9 and 10 have the stuttering feast when invoking spotlight in the homescreen. iOS9 improved it towards the end of its development cycle, and now iOS10 brought back the good old stuttering. I mean, how hard is it to fix a simple slide-down search box animation so it doesn't stutter?
 
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trifid said:
I don't remember in iOS8, but both iOS9 and 10 have the stuttering feast when invoking spotlight in the homescreen. iOS9 improved it towards the end of its development cycle, and now iOS10 brought back the good old stuttering. I mean, how hard is it to fix a simple slide-down search box animation so it doesn't stutter?
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Can you tell us how hard or easy it is?
 
freepomme said:
Because the developers are the ones that get the betas. And they're letting too much slide. Like what you just said about lag. You can't address it. But people notice everything. That's why I made this thread.

I mean the iOS 10.1 beta 2 I'm using right now introduces a new bug where you can't even swipe to delete in iMessage.

I mean... ¯\(°_O)
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Let me ask you a simple question:
When you go fishing, do you catch every fish in the lake?

iOS is quite complex. So much so that, if Apple held into it until they've investigated every possible scenario, beta testers wouldn't get their hands on it for years. If the beta testers held onto it until every possible scenario was tested, you'd be complaining that updates take too long to receive.

For what iOS is, and as big as it is, I feel it is high quality - the last bug I actually experienced was Safari crashing and I believe that was in iOS 7.

If you're unhappy with it, perhaps your time would be better spent switching platforms instead of wasting time complaining here - which actually serves no purpose. Focus on what matters, not what angers.

If you really want to fix the problem, learn how to code and get a job at Apple.. and then see how easy it is to release bug-free software.
 
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For a $90 billion software company should be easy I'd think, doesn't seem like an engineering feat, is it?
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I believe Apple's net worth was last projected at 42 Billion. Apple is also a hardware integrated Company, as they are software.
 
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What I don't understand is when they fix a bug and then it comes back in a future release.

Also, they like to take things that were working perfectly and then breaking it (like auto-brightness in iOS 9 as well as some of my favorite games stutter now even though in 9.2 they were perfect.)

It also kills me how many UI glitches there are these days. Not just animations, but things like icons snapping into place after rotating the screen, the keyboard animating the wrong direction after canceling a page swipe in messages app. Can't forget the invisible button in music that Apple apparently thinks is okay. Also, icons flickering in the maps app.

There's more, but I don't have time to outline all the UI glitches.
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trifid said:
I don't remember in iOS8, but both iOS9 and 10 have the stuttering feast when invoking spotlight in the homescreen. iOS9 improved it towards the end of its development cycle, and now iOS10 brought back the good old stuttering. I mean, how hard is it to fix a simple slide-down search box animation so it doesn't stutter?
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Same thing with app switcher. They finally perfected the frame rate in iOS 9, but it's back to being a stutter fest even on my iPhone 7.
 
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What I don't understand is when they fix a bug and then it comes back in a future release.

Also, they like to take things that were working perfectly and then breaking it (like auto-brightness in iOS 9 as well as some of my favorite games stutter now even though in 9.2 they were perfect.)

It also kills me how many UI glitches there are these days. Not just animations, but things like icons snapping into place after rotating the screen, the keyboard animating the wrong direction after canceling a page swipe in messages app. Can't forget the invisible button in music that Apple apparently thinks is okay. Also, icons flickering in the maps app.

There's more, but I don't have time to outline all the UI glitches.
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Same thing with app switcher. They finally perfected the frame rate in iOS 9, but it's back to being a stutter fest even on my iPhone 7.
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Why are you still using iOS 9 on an iPhone 7?
 
freepomme said:
Because the developers are the ones that get the betas. And they're letting too much slide. Like what you just said about lag. You can't address it. But people notice everything. That's why I made this thread.

I mean the iOS 10.1 beta 2 I'm using right now introduces a new bug where you can't even swipe to delete in iMessage.

I mean... ¯\(°_O)
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No. Developers get the betas to build their apps. If there is a bug that prevents their app from working then they usually report it. They are not required to report bugs they find unless they are critical or interfere with their work.
 
ardchoille50 said:
Why are you still using iOS 9 on an iPhone 7?
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Hah. I'm not, but those games still stutter on my iPhone 7 as well, but they were perfect in 9.2 (on iPad mini 4 and iPhone 6)

When 9.3 came out, it broke those games and 10.1 beta 2 hasn't fixed it.
 
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