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I'd personally try and find a 2012 MacBook Pro. Upgrade it to an SSD, and you'll have a cheap decent machine.
That's what I'm running right now, and I can't recommend it enough. I picked up this machine for about $400 which is the average asking price for a Windows laptop with somewhat decent specs. Definitely a good choice for a "first Mac" that you buy yourself. Best of luck, OP.
 
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As a parent, if my kid asks for an expensive laptop, I'd be thinking, "What's in it for me?" Then it dawns on me: make 'em earn it by doing more chores.

If you want to convince your parents to spend money on you, you need to show them the benefits of doing so. Get good grades, help a round the house, in short be the kind of son parents brag to other parents about. Do that and they'll get you anything. Heck, I'd get my boy a top of the line MBP even if it meant selling a kidney.o_O Not mine, of course.;)
 
As a parent, if my kid asks for an expensive laptop, I'd be thinking, "What's in it for me?" Then it dawns on me: make 'em earn it by doing more chores.

If you want to convince your parents to spend money on you, you need to show them the benefits of doing so. Get good grades, help a round the house, in short be the kind of son parents brag to other parents about. Do that and they'll get you anything. Heck, I'd get my boy a top of the line MBP even if it meant selling a kidney.o_O Not mine, of course.;)
I'm not a fan of rewards for chores. There's a downside to rewarding a child simply for doing the chores they're assigned... it teaches them to be transactional rather than the idea that members of a family do things for the common good of the family without anything specific in return.

"Getting good grades" benefits the child, not the parent. Rewarding a child for good grades sends the signal that it is the parent that benefits.

If the kid is going to work toward the laptop, have them do work in the neighborhood for pay. But then again, I'm "old school". 😆
 
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kid dont be the boomer, Apple, is a 40+ year old company with zombie management and not as expexcted any more.

doing other people's yard work sx so its windows or maybe low end hardware + linux.

a MPB
if you must have a used one all good but dont buy one after mid 2016. Else you get stuck with the junk keyboard. The free warrenty replacements were the same failed design. Shinny new keyboards started to appear just now, but possibly they are no big improvement.
 
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