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I think editing stuff (fun stuff/family stuff) on the iPad Pro would be fun.

Assuming even you are using an iPhone for the video source, how do you get the video from the iPhone onto the iPad to edit it? How about GoPro footage?

What would this work flow look like to be truly useful? I get if I shot the video WITH the iPad then it would be easy, but that camera is sub par.
 
I think you can just AirDrop it, as long as you've got Yosemite on a Mac or the iPhone app has the Share/Action sheet. When you do that it should be available to open in iMovie.
 
So being more serious, what I SHOULD have asked is "obviously you can use the camera connection kit and USB to get video onto the iPad, but it is horrendously slow and unreliable. Is this how people who edit video on iPads (if these people exist) will be doing it on the iPad pro?"
 
So being more serious, what I SHOULD have asked is "obviously you can use the camera connection kit and USB to get video onto the iPad, but it is horrendously slow and unreliable. Is this how people who edit video on iPads (if these people exist) will be doing it on the iPad pro?"

I've only ever used the camera connection kit but if airdrop is quick then I guess that'd be good.
There should be in iMovie for iPad to pull videos that you've taken on your iPhone. That'd be nice
 
This is my biggest complaint about the iPad Pro. How can it be pro without a way of dealing with large files?

To people saying AirDrop, that would not work at all because anyone doing pro video is going to have 64GB SD cards filled with content, from multiple cameras, from each shoot. So you would be talking about moving on/off the entire disk space of a 128GB iPad Pro. And the problem is that is just with typical 1080p cameras, in another year or two everyone will be shooting 4k once Canon and Nikon start sticking them into their prosumer lineups.

What Apple should have done is stuck the new Thunderbolt connector that doubles as USB-C and created a new external storage app to access the content plugged in.
 
I've only ever used the camera connection kit but if airdrop is quick then I guess that'd be good.
There should be in iMovie for iPad to pull videos that you've taken on your iPhone. That'd be nice

Not to troll--but why would anyone want to edit video on an ipad?
 
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just remember, Google is your friend
There is nothing I havent been able to figure out using Google.
I think I remember in thief terms, they have the copyright to whatever you uploaded to google. Not sure if you wanna do that
 
I tried to do a slide show once on my iPad for my grandma's 80th birthday. I got the pictures, transitions, music, etc. all set up, and everything worked pretty nicely. The pictures I used were all paper copies, and I don't remember how I got them on to the machine--maybe through a shared album in iCloud or something? I honestly don't remember, but the actually putting together of the video was a snap.

The problem was then getting the video off of the iPad and onto a readable format. This slideshow was not being shown at a tech friendly house, and the people that lived there didn't know if they even had an HDMI hookup for me to use the adapter. (They ended up not having an HDTV at the time.)

Long story short, I actually ended up having to scrap the whole project and do it all on a computer so it could be burned to a disc. There was no good way to export this project into iCloud because it was too big, and there was no way to get it on to a computer at the time either.

This is often my experience when I try to do real work on an iPad, which is why I'm steering away from the iPad Pro and sticking with my Macbook Pro for now.
 
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Not to troll--but why would anyone want to edit video on an ipad?

I understand your point but I'm not thinking 'now' I'm thinking 'the future'. Apple is trying to move us to a future where iPad is the computer most people choose, and only few need real computers. They are showing video editing of 4k as one of the things the iPad is or will be good for. I'm trying to practically bridge todays reality with Apple's future vision and figure out exactly how best to accomplish these workflows for the future.

TODAY do I want to edit video on an iPad? No. I'll use my Mac.
 
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I can't really see any real professional video editor choosing the iPad Pro as their main machine or even a supplementary device. It's simply too cumbersome to get large amounts (we're talking tens of gigs here, not just a couple) of data onto the the device. And without easy external storage, even 128gb is going to fill up fast. This device is better suited for prosumers who work on projects that are much smaller and can work within the constraints of the iMovie, the device and iOS itself.
 
I can't really see any real professional video editor choosing the iPad Pro as their main machine or even a supplementary device. It's simply too cumbersome to get large amounts (we're talking tens of gigs here, not just a couple) of data onto the the device. And without easy external storage, even 128gb is going to fill up fast. This device is better suited for prosumers who work on projects that are much smaller and can work within the constraints of the iMovie, the device and iOS itself.

All true, and the OP never mentioned Pro work, he did mention wanting to have fun. I read the OP's post as his being in the group that would have fun on an iPad without investing in storage or FCPX or Premiere.
 
All true, and the OP never mentioned Pro work, he did mention wanting to have fun. I read the OP's post as his being in the group that would have fun on an iPad without investing in storage or FCPX or Premiere.
For OP I'm sure the device would suit him well then. But if the pen is no object, I'd opt for the 128gb Air 2 instead for the same $799 as the base Pro. Just me though
 
I would agree with that iPad choice as well.

FWIW - I did a 2 camera shoot with external audio on Saturday. I uploaded ~ 38GB to my iPad as a quick back-up and it also allowed us to take a quick look at some of the footage. Post is being done on my iMac tonight and my friend's MBP. We could have opened iMovie, so it is possible to do a video on an iPad. While iMovie is not FCPX, it is still pretty capable.
 
Well, I've always thought of iMovie on iOS as a tool to edit the footage shot on the device itself. Of course it's possible to upload other footage to it, but why go through all that trouble? iMovie on OS X is free and has much more functionality.

The fact that iPad Pro can play four 4K streams simultaneously is just a marketing gimmick/bragging rights. No one is actually going to use the iPad Pro for serious video editing, simply because anyone who's serious about video editing edits from an external hard drive.
 
So being more serious, what I SHOULD have asked is "obviously you can use the camera connection kit and USB to get video onto the iPad, but it is horrendously slow and unreliable. Is this how people who edit video on iPads (if these people exist) will be doing it on the iPad pro?"
As someone who actually does do video editing on the iPad and iPhone then I'm going to let you in on a little secret.... These people DON'T exist.

Yes, there are people who WANT to do video editing on an iPad.
Yes, Apple does lots of video editing demos in keynotes
Yes, Apple (kinda) has the tools to (kinda) get the job done

But no, the amount of people who regularly edit video is minuscule (I'll even say that half the people who claim to do it often are liars or exaggerators because most people dont subject themselves to this sort of torture). And several of the biggest reasons are exactly the topic of this thread.

- Obtaining source files requires far too many hoops
- Camera Connection Kit is inconsistent and unreliable
- Video editing without proper control methods (mouse/keyboard/Trackball) is aggravating
- Storage space is too limiting

Now. As I said, I frequently do video editing on my iPad and iPhone because I often need to do same day edits of for shoots while on the road and don't always have a computer. So this is my iOS Setup:

Equipment:
- DSLR (equipped with WiFi SD Card)
- Sony RX100 M3 (WiFi capable. NFC capable too but Apple crippled NFC on iPhone)
- iPhone 6+
- iPad Air 2

Software:
- iMovie (Decent but pretty awful and lacking compared to the Mac version)
- Sony Photo Transfer App
- WiFi SD Card Transfer App
- PhotoSync.app (Paid App, Free for Desktop Client. Much more reliable than AirDrop)

Workflow:
1) Shoot Footage
2) Review footage on built in screens to mark video to sent
3) Send video clips to iPad using corresponding apps
4) Edit in iMovie (Lots of finger dragging and pinching and... crashing)
5) Export to Camera Roll
6) Send to iPhone to upload

The workflow seems like it could use a lot of refinement but this is actually as streamlined as I could get it over the last 4 years. And thats because, while video editing on an iPad may make a great tech demo, in reality its an awful mess that is taking an already tedious task and putting bricks on it. (And lets also keep in mind the alternate Mac method of video editing is "Insert SD Card, Import Files, Edit, Export" with full control of files and effects and nearly unlimited access to everything because it has an actual file system and remove able storage)


That said. I cant wait for the iPad Pro because I love the idea of editing on tablets and I'm very curious to see how an A9X, Large Screen and Pencil will change things. Through my Apple Lover Goggles I see all positives, but in my rational mind all I can think is "If I'm going to carry a 13" screen around then why the heck isn't it a MacBook Pro"



So in conclusion...
I think editing stuff (fun stuff/family stuff) on the iPad Pro would be fun.

Yes it can be done. No it won't be "fun".
 
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I think that there is a place for video editing on an iPad. For me, the only thing that I would like to the iPad to do is to back-up the SD cards in field and get the files in the Cloud. We are not quite there to have that work conveniently. We are also at least an update away from having a decent app to edit with. 128GB way to small storage. Still, I am hopeful for the future. I don't want to have carry around a MBP and external SSD. I think that OP can the fun is looking for now.
 
Well, I've always thought of iMovie on iOS as a tool to edit the footage shot on the device itself. Of course it's possible to upload other footage to it, but why go through all that trouble? iMovie on OS X is free and has much more functionality.

The fact that iPad Pro can play four 4K streams simultaneously is just a marketing gimmick/bragging rights. No one is actually going to use the iPad Pro for serious video editing, simply because anyone who's serious about video editing edits from an external hard drive.
that external drive i think Apple believe will be the icloud storage, i think next year will be a cloud hdd fully operational
 
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