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All true, and the OP never mentioned Pro work, he did mention wanting to have fun. I read the OP's post as his being in the group that would have fun on an iPad without investing in storage or FCPX or Premiere.

I think thats a fair interpretation--and it highlights 2 problems in the ios/ipad world--storage and pointing device issues. But adding a usb connection for storage seems to run afoul of file management issues. So, 3 issues to overcome.
 
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i really think that because the ideal future in tech is based storage for your OS and storage in cloud+ unlimited internet data so with 5G you get ideal speed to dll or uploud.Apple already started to cut prices for icloud storage and put icloud drive app into iOS
 
i really think that because the ideal future in tech is based storage for your OS and storage in cloud+ unlimited internet data so with 5G you get ideal speed to dll or uploud.Apple already started to cut prices for icloud storage and put icloud drive app into iOS

Even if it was fast enough, with the models that have emerged for data usage there is no way you could afford to shuttle that much data back and forth.

There is definitely a missing link for this being practical, and the iPad (and iPad pro) do not seem to have any mechanism in place to fix that link to be practical.
 
I don't know. We were recently on vacation and took ~ 550 images, paired LF JPEG & RAW, so 1,100 images. We only had iPads. I downloaded the images in the evening and we culled a few. We were semi off-grid so no WiFi and spotty cell. We spent one night in a hotel with WiFi but we didn't really use our iPads. When arrived home the images were in iCloud and stored locally on my iMac in Photos. The whole process worked very well in the background. It was easy to export the ones that I wanted to work on to LR. Similarly, as I previously posted I recently had 32GB of data from 2 cameras and an audio recorder. I downloaded the SD's in the field, and the video started to upload to iCloud through the site's WiFi. When I got home it was already downloading on to my iMac.

So, my workflow is to shoot stills/video and download them on to my iPad where they will also go into iCloud. I don't plan on doing much editing on my iPad, I will leave that for Adobe CC and FCPX on my iMac. This method has my files on the SD cards, on the iPad, in iCloud, and, locally on my iMac. What I would really like is the ability to download to the app of my choice, say Dropbox, and to have the iPad be 256 or 512GB. I know that I can carry a MBP and an external SSD, but an iPad is a much more elegant, and lighter, alternative. Goes better with m4/3's gear.
 
This is my biggest complaint about the iPad Pro. How can it be pro without a way of dealing with large files?

To people saying AirDrop, that would not work at all because anyone doing pro video is going to have 64GB SD cards filled with content, from multiple cameras, from each shoot. So you would be talking about moving on/off the entire disk space of a 128GB iPad Pro. And the problem is that is just with typical 1080p cameras, in another year or two everyone will be shooting 4k once Canon and Nikon start sticking them into their prosumer lineups.

What Apple should have done is stuck the new Thunderbolt connector that doubles as USB-C and created a new external storage app to access the content plugged in.

iPad Pro is a misnomer. This is probably my biggest grip with iOS. Outside of Apple's unprofessional solutions, there aren't any really solid ways to transfer and organize files to and from the device for real pro use.
 
No way I would rely on cloud only especially when traveling and getting charged outrageous data roaming charges or the unreliability of getting a connection. I require USB external SSD storage, SD card and file management/copy any device over WIFI so that means tablet to backup tablet too.
 
that external drive i think Apple believe will be the icloud storage, i think next year will be a cloud hdd fully operational


iCloud Drive is the closest thing to a file system iOS has, but I really don't want all my footage in the cloud just for editing. I often shoot several hundreds of gigabytes for a project, it's not practical to have to upload that to the cloud first.
 
As someone who actually does do video editing on the iPad and iPhone then I'm going to let you in on a little secret.... These people DON'T exist.

Yes, there are people who WANT to do video editing on an iPad.
Yes, Apple does lots of video editing demos in keynotes
Yes, Apple (kinda) has the tools to (kinda) get the job done

But no, the amount of people who regularly edit video is minuscule (I'll even say that half the people who claim to do it often are liars or exaggerators because most people dont subject themselves to this sort of torture). And several of the biggest reasons are exactly the topic of this thread.

- Obtaining source files requires far too many hoops
- Camera Connection Kit is inconsistent and unreliable
- Video editing without proper control methods (mouse/keyboard/Trackball) is aggravating
- Storage space is too limiting

Now. As I said, I frequently do video editing on my iPad and iPhone because I often need to do same day edits of for shoots while on the road and don't always have a computer. So this is my iOS Setup:

Equipment:
- DSLR (equipped with WiFi SD Card)
- Sony RX100 M3 (WiFi capable. NFC capable too but Apple crippled NFC on iPhone)
- iPhone 6+
- iPad Air 2

Software:
- iMovie (Decent but pretty awful and lacking compared to the Mac version)
- Sony Photo Transfer App
- WiFi SD Card Transfer App
- PhotoSync.app (Paid App, Free for Desktop Client. Much more reliable than AirDrop)

Workflow:
1) Shoot Footage
2) Review footage on built in screens to mark video to sent
3) Send video clips to iPad using corresponding apps
4) Edit in iMovie (Lots of finger dragging and pinching and... crashing)
5) Export to Camera Roll
6) Send to iPhone to upload

The workflow seems like it could use a lot of refinement but this is actually as streamlined as I could get it over the last 4 years. And thats because, while video editing on an iPad may make a great tech demo, in reality its an awful mess that is taking an already tedious task and putting bricks on it. (And lets also keep in mind the alternate Mac method of video editing is "Insert SD Card, Import Files, Edit, Export" with full control of files and effects and nearly unlimited access to everything because it has an actual file system and remove able storage)


That said. I cant wait for the iPad Pro because I love the idea of editing on tablets and I'm very curious to see how an A9X, Large Screen and Pencil will change things. Through my Apple Lover Goggles I see all positives, but in my rational mind all I can think is "If I'm going to carry a 13" screen around then why the heck isn't it a MacBook Pro"



So in conclusion...


Yes it can be done. No it won't be "fun".

I'm agreeing completely; but it should be noted that iMovie for iOS has just been updated and is pretty much on par with the desktop version (you can now cut clips at points, you Han now have multiple layers of video, picture in picture, side by side video, 4K...).
 
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iCloud Drive is the closest thing to a file system iOS has, but I really don't want all my footage in the cloud just for editing. I often shoot several hundreds of gigabytes for a project, it's not practical to have to upload that to the cloud first.

Yes, that amount of footage is too much to upload to the cloud.
 
It's interesting to have Apple introduce 4K recording and tout iPad Pro Video Editing in the same event. How exactly does Apple expect people to transfer large 4K video files from their iPhone 6S+ to the iPad Pro? Through AirPlay?!?! (Or how about through a $1400 MacBook that doesn't even have two ports to bridge the two devices). :)

A direct connection between two iOS devices would be ideal but I guess we'll just have to wait for Apple to collaborate with The USB Standards Group and create a new lightweight high speed port designed for high speed data transfer... Oh wait...


Seriously. I'm getting a Pro but this is yet another reason why the iPad Pro (and lack of Air 3) should make people feel the entire iOS lineup are placeholders until next year when we see 3D Touch, smart connector, pencil support and USB-C as iOS Hardware Standards.
 
How exactly does Apple expect people to transfer large 4K video files from their iPhone 6S+ to the iPad Pro?

Easy you buy a companion Macbook as a mediator. Apple profit$ from you buying three devices instead of one iPad Prosumer with 4K camera or direct transfer from 4K iPhone 6S/6S+.
 
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You cant move the video file to your icloud drive founded in ios9?
And acces it and copy from iclod to your ipad?
Yeah, if you have iCloud Drive and "Photos in the Cloud" enabled on both devices, anything shot on your iPhone (photos and videos) should automatically get wirelessly synced to your iPad and be available for use (with 4K videos that might take a while to sync though).
 
With the new higher speed storage and storage controller, the new iPad pro should be able to ingest photos and video much faster but the real question is how fast is the storage in the iPad pro? If we are ingesting photos and video through the Lightning port that will go at about USB 2.0 speeds I'm thinking. That would mean a maximum of about 480mbps. If we are using 802.11N, that tops out at about 300-450mbps. 802.11AC is about 6,933mbps but it's not on most products. If Apple was to release a USB3.0 Lightning SD card adaptor, we would get speeds of about 5,000mbps. Some of the fastest cards now are at about 90MBps or 720mbps. If you're really special and have one of the current 3 cameras supporting UHSII cards, you can get 150MBps or 1,200mbps. iPhones using MLC NAND will probably be limited to 15-16MBps or 120-128mbps or if we are still stuck using TLC NAND, that number will fall to about 3MBps or 24mbps. So the limiting factor is still the on-board storage on ARM chipsets. I'm hoping we see something really awesome on the iPad pro that can go above 128mbps of MLC NAND right now but there is a chance that we are going to end up with storage that is still relatively slow compared to the I/O and media that is currently out there. Even if the storage speed is 256-320mbps on the new iPad pro, that would still be pretty significant compared to what we have now.
 
With the new higher speed storage and storage controller, the new iPad pro should be able to ingest photos and video much faster but the real question is how fast is the storage in the iPad pro? If we are ingesting photos and video through the Lightning port that will go at about USB 2.0 speeds I'm thinking. That would mean a maximum of about 480mbps. If we are using 802.11N, that tops out at about 300-450mbps. 802.11AC is about 6,933mbps but it's not on most products. If Apple was to release a USB3.0 Lightning SD card adaptor, we would get speeds of about 5,000mbps. Some of the fastest cards now are at about 90MBps or 720mbps. If you're really special and have one of the current 3 cameras supporting UHSII cards, you can get 150MBps or 1,200mbps. iPhones using MLC NAND will probably be limited to 15-16MBps or 120-128mbps or if we are still stuck using TLC NAND, that number will fall to about 3MBps or 24mbps. So the limiting factor is still the on-board storage on ARM chipsets. I'm hoping we see something really awesome on the iPad pro that can go above 128mbps of MLC NAND right now but there is a chance that we are going to end up with storage that is still relatively slow compared to the I/O and media that is currently out there. Even if the storage speed is 256-320mbps on the new iPad pro, that would still be pretty significant compared to what we have now.


I read somewhere that the lightning port was usb 3 on the iPad pro.
 
I can't really see any real professional video editor choosing the iPad Pro as their main machine or even a supplementary device. It's simply too cumbersome to get large amounts (we're talking tens of gigs here, not just a couple) of data onto the the device. And without easy external storage, even 128gb is going to fill up fast. This device is better suited for prosumers who work on projects that are much smaller and can work within the constraints of the iMovie, the device and iOS itself.
Can I get an "Amen"? "Amen". "Amen", "Amen".
 
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