How is SMB?

[Killerbob]

as brilliant as that is i resent that it has come to this! 😜

Whatever it takes to have 1093/870 MB/s in Read/Write to my NAS... The highest transfer speed I have measure was 1350MB/s, but I haven't been able to replicate that since then. SMB has always been faster than AFP, and I originally used Qfinder Pro to set up the mounts, but my method is faster.

 

[RumorConsumer]

Whatever it takes to have 1093/870 MB/s in Read/Write to my NAS... The highest transfer speed I have measure was 1350MB/s, but I haven't been able to replicate that since then. SMB has always been faster than AFP, and I originally used Qfinder Pro to set up the mounts, but my method is faster.

I hear you. My situation is similar. I have 3x arrays of 12 drives each in Synology enclosures with 10gbit. Are you using the Sonnet Thunderbolt3 to SFP+? Its great. Does that script actually specifically instruct the OS to use the Thunderbolt interface? I dont totally understand the syntax.

 

[Killerbob]

I just use the Thunderbolt 2 on the Mac Pro and an adapter TB2->TB3 on the QNAP (I also have the QNAP connected to the LAN via Ethernet).

In my opinion 10GbE is too expensive to set up, and actually slower than TB2. The QNAP has 2xTB3 connections in addition to 1x10GbE and 4xGigabit connections.

 

[RumorConsumer]

I just use the Thunderbolt 2 on the Mac Pro and an adapter TB2->TB3 on the QNAP (I also have the QNAP connected to the LAN via Ethernet).

In my opinion 10GbE is too expensive to set up, and actually slower than TB2. The QNAP has 2xTB3 connections in addition to 1x10GbE and 4xGigabit connections.

Oh I see. Native Thunderbolt would be sweet. I dont mind the 10gbe at all. Just directly connect, set the NIC IPs and go. I usually pull between 800-900MB/sec. Sometimes over 1k. How are your arrays configured?

 

[Killerbob]

I have 8 x 10TB HGST Ultrastar disks in a Raid6, with 2 x 1TB Samsung 970 Pro NVMe for Read/Write cache. I can access shares from outisde via a solid VPN setup.

A lot of people don’t like Thunderbolt, but it is fast, and once it works, it works.

The only “data” I have on my Mac Pro and MacBook Pro are my Lightroom libraries. Everything else, photos (I am a photographer), videos, music, documents, ets. resides on my NAS.

For backup I use a secondary NAS (NetGear Pioneer Pro) that “sucks” changes on a nightly basis.

 

[DeepIn2U]

I have 8 x 10TB HGST Ultrastar disks in a Raid6, with 2 x 1TB Samsung 970 Pro NVMe for Read/Write cache. I can access shares from outisde via a solid VPN setup.

A lot of people don’t like Thunderbolt, but it is fast, and once it works, it works.

The only “data” I have on my Mac Pro and MacBook Pro are my Lightroom libraries. Everything else, photos (I am a photographer), videos, music, documents, ets. resides on my NAS.

For backup I use a secondary NAS (NetGear Pioneer Pro) that “sucks” changes on a nightly basis.

Lessons to live by!

 

[Killerbob]

- The best way to improve on backup is more backup -

 

[displaced]

Can anyone replicate this behaviour?

- Copy a WMV FileDrop to aN SMB share
- Open the share on Big Sur
- Highlight the WMV and hit Space for QuickLook

QuickLook hangs, Finder hangs, desktop hangs, share cant be ejected. Force Relaunch of Finder leads to an empty desktop.

Only way to recover is to turn off WiFi, wait for the share to disconnect and turn WiFi back on.

Doesn’t happen with WMVs on local volumes.

Also, try dragging a few dozen photos from a shared folder to a Photos album. Photos import progress sits at zero, fans go nuts and Finder freezes again until the WiFi toggle trick is performed.

SMB seems speedy, but the overall experience for me is pretty miserable!

 

[spencerkm]

Can anyone replicate this behaviour?
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Not the same but a possibly similar issue:

Rendering a Quicktime file in After Effects onto my QNAP (SMB) results in the same behaviour of Quicklook and finder hanging if I try to preview it. If I double-click it to open in Quicktime or mpv, the file is corrupt and doesn't play.

If I render the file to my Desktop or any local drive, it works fine.

Rendering files from Premiere using "Render and Replace" also fails.

 

[Killerbob]

I gave up on SMB for now... I too had problems with Preview, and the final straw was when I needed to copy 250 ～ 50MB .NEF files from my XQD card to my NAS.

I had run the fix (sudo kextload /System/Library/Extensions/smbfs.kext) to be able to mount my QNAP NAS shares on the desktop, but when I pasted the files into a folder, it was INCREDIBLY ssllooww. After 10 min. I stopped the copy job.

In the end I switched to AFP for now. The same effort, copying 250 ～50MB files to the NAS, took 1 min.

 

[RumorConsumer]

I gave up on SMB for now... I too had problems with Preview, and the final straw was when I needed to copy 250 ～ 50MB .NEF files from my XQD card to my NAS.

I had run the fix (sudo kextload /System/Library/Extensions/smbfs.kext) to be able to mount my QNAP NAS shares on the desktop, but when I pasted the files into a folder, it was INCREDIBLY ssllooww. After 10 min. I stopped the copy job.

In the end I switched to AFP for now. The same effort, copying 250 ～50MB files to the NAS, took 1 min.

This is so discouraging

 

[spencerkm]

I've switched to AFP this morning and am no longer getting errors rendering Quicktime files to the network drive. AFP it is until SMB is fixed. Glad I found this thread, I was really confused and thought the issue was related to my hackintosh and improper support of my 10gbe card.

 

[Tranel]

I switched to AFP, too. Since then all my sync - issues between the Mac and the iPhone are gone.

 

[iMacDragon]

It definitely seems to depend somewhat on the smb server, admittedly I'm copying a few big files mostly, but they're going fast.