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Broko Fankone

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Running at brightness level 1 - did you miss that? Try your own mac. Charge it to 100, unplug everything, and put the brightness to 1. Then open Activity Monitor and look how much it calculates as remaining. Let it sit for a few minutes like that and check the estimated time again.
 

coffeeplease

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Wondering what battery capacity those with drain are having. I've ran into a few posts and seen full design capacity as low as 4900 and as high as 5300. Maybe there are batteries with even lower capacity, which might explain shorter battery life.
 

Jochheim

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While I would like my MBP lasting 12 h or so I don't think it is that bad - at least for me. The ~6 h will get me through most workloads without power and when I really need more battery I can just us my USB C Powerbank that will charge my MBP with around 60 W. Sure that adds weight, but I was surprised how light the Powerbank is. If you really want a long lasting MB you should wait for the ARM transition - although I would not buy the 1st GEN myself. The only fear I have is, that apple will use the benefits of ARM regarding efficiency to build even lighter and smaller MB´s. That would be ok for something like a new 12" Macbook, but I would hope that the "Pro"-machines will last a few hours longer with Apple Silicon.
 

MacLawyer

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That’s not normal in a new 2020, do you think it’s going To be better with the new MacOs?
Late follow up. I turned down brightness. It was on max. Also had keyboard backlighting on for no reason, so I switched that off. Installed the 10.15.6 update. Also installed TurboBoost (See forum post above). One or all of those things have made a big difference.
 

Broko Fankone

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How's this for battery life? I'm pretty sure 20 hours is for some reason the "limit" of what it can show.
If we do the math, 1% per 30 minutes would mean about 50 hours from 100% to 0%.

This is what happens when you put the screen on 1 bar of brightness (also with 1 bar of keyboard backlight), with WiFi on and TB off.
 

involuntarheely

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Wondering what battery capacity those with drain are having. I've ran into a few posts and seen full design capacity as low as 4900 and as high as 5300. Maybe there are batteries with even lower capacity, which might explain shorter battery life.
mine is currently at 4900 after 9 cycles which translates to about 30min less on a 10h period
I'd say it's likely apple is sourcing worse batteries to save money.
 

coffeeplease

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mine is currently at 4900 after 9 cycles which translates to about 30min less on a 10h period
I'd say it's likely apple is sourcing worse batteries to save money.

What's your original design capacity? The current design capacity seems be lower if you have battery health management enabled. But 400 mAh difference seems like a pretty big variance.
 
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involuntarheely

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What's your original design capacity? The current design capacity seems be lower if you have battery health management enabled. But 400 mAh difference seems like a pretty big variance.
5088
I remember when I bought the laptop the capacity was around 5100. I've used the battery health management feature for a while but then I disabled it and installed alDente instead. I'm keeping the battery at 70%. for some reason coconutBattery didn't save the historical capacity numbers, so I only have a few days of history ever since I reinstalled the app. it shows stable numbers around 4900.
 

coffeeplease

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I remember when I bought the laptop the capacity was around 5100. I've used the battery health management feature for a while but then I disabled it and installed alDente instead. I'm keeping the battery at 70%. for some reason coconutBattery didn't save the historical capacity numbers, so I only have a few days of history ever since I reinstalled the app. it shows stable numbers around 4900.

Wow mine is also exactly 5088. I'm also using AlDente and it seems to have hovered around the same capacity since. For coconutBattery to record every day, you'll need to enable it to run in the background.
 

Quackington

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How's this for battery life? I'm pretty sure 20 hours is for some reason the "limit" of what it can show.
If we do the math, 1% per 30 minutes would mean about 50 hours from 100% to 0%.

This is what happens when you put the screen on 1 bar of brightness (also with 1 bar of keyboard backlight), with WiFi on and TB off.
You can turn the touch bar off completely? Out of curiosity, what do you use for volume, brightness etc. controls? Are there quick shortcuts?
 

involuntarheely

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and by the way a friend of mine just gave me his MBP13 2020 base model to reset; he is returning it because the fan was way too loud even just zooming.

this thing was bought on day 1 of release

DSY battery, 40 cycles,
5103mAh design capacity
4811mAh full charge capacity (94.2%)

he got a 2019 4-ports refurbished from apple with a new battery. I'm really curious to see if it goes down the same way.
 

Broko Fankone

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Jun 14, 2020
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if you try to use mouse and avoid using trackpad, you can get a much longer battery life, it's weird but works

I seriously doubt the validity of this statement. If it's based on "feeling", then I absolutely doubt it. Otherwise, maybe if you've done some tests do share some data or stats.

If anything, an external mouse will draw power from the mac. It will either keep bluetooth engaged, or it will require power from the USB ports. It makes no sense that it will somehow increase battery life.
 

cannotthinkname

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I seriously doubt the validity of this statement. If it's based on "feeling", then I absolutely doubt it. Otherwise, maybe if you've done some tests do share some data or stats.

If anything, an external mouse will draw power from the mac. It will either keep bluetooth engaged, or it will require power from the USB ports. It makes no sense that it will somehow increase battery life.
just open the task manager you will see a process called "hidd", every time you use the trackpad, the cpu usage will reach a maximum of 10%, this is the process in Mac OS that manages all Human Interface Device, but using external mouse or typing on keyboard will never reach that much cpu usage. I don't have time to do the test, I found this method from other Mac forum long time ago.
 

Broko Fankone

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Yeah, that is true - I just checked it. Can't say how much more battery it uses in a complete cycle but I can see it can go up to 10 energy usage and 10% cpu, which is surprising. But at the same time Discord is using 20% cpu. Should I delete discord? I don't think the impact is as dramatic that it would be worth not using the touchpad. If you are sitting on a desk, you would be using a mouse anyway (at least I always do) and if I am moving the laptop around / in bed, or whatever, I would be using the trackpad.

It's just not convenient to avoid using one of the very best features of the mac to achieve a theoretical 10% battery increase (not realistic since you will not be using the trackpad 100% of the time anyway, and it jumps to 10% usage when I constantly move it).
 
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