iPhone X how is the iphone x a status symbol if 29 million have it?

[akash.nu]

I'm not sure what environment you operate in, but spend a little time in an executive boardroom or on social media and you'll see just how much more important the brands and possessions that people own become as one gets older. I'm not sure how old you are or what your walk of life is, but there are reasons why people drive Mercedes Benz and wear Rolex and those luxuries are important to millions of people and admired by hundreds of millions of people. That's not "shallowness" (your word) but rather celebrations of success no different than a diploma or a promotion means to other. These are facts. They might not align with your specific morals but that does not mean that they are immoral or irrelevant.

Apple is a luxury brand making luxury electronics and they've been doing so for over 30 years. If you think someone with a $300 HP laptop from Best Buy isn't judging you and your $2,000 MacBook, think again.

Erm yeah at a boardroom if people look at your smartphone then I’ll probably not fit in that room.

A £50000 Rolex and a £1000 smartphone is not even comparable and all of them will have similar possessions. So what’s the point here?

Ps. I am part of a board by the way. Just to put in context.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Typing drivel like this, you say a lot about yourself that you don’t mean to. People who boast about what I’d call a decidedly new money middle class lifestyle are those who have arrived there from nothing, not been brought up used to it. My guess is you’ve come from a poor background, got yourself a half decent job and now think you’re a little bit special? I know the type, my part of the country is flooded with them - here’s some advice, you’re not unique and you’re not impressing anyone, especially not with a mere mobile phone and a Mercedes

Well if it is a real AMG then we are getting somewhere

 

[boltjames]

Typing drivel like this, you say a lot about yourself that you don’t mean to. People who boast about what I’d call a decidedly new money middle class lifestyle are those who have arrived there from nothing, not been brought up used to it. My guess is you’ve come from a poor background, got yourself a half decent job and now think you’re a little bit special? I know the type, my part of the country is flooded with them - here’s some advice, you’re not unique and you’re not impressing anyone, especially not with a mere mobile phone and a Mercedes

You know what, I take offense to this. You don't need to make a monster out of me to make a point about how wholesome you are. You owe me an apology.

I am pointing out how things are in the world as I observe it, I am not saying I subscribe to status symbolism. I did not buy my iPhone X's because they are status symbols, I bought them because my family needed new iPhone's and these suited our needs. What makes the iPhone a status symbol has nothing to do with it's owners but rather how others react to them.

 

[Falhófnir]

Well if it is a real AMG then we are getting somewhere

Meh I've never really liked Mercs (personal taste) They look a bit too flashy to me, I prefer understated like Audi and Jaguar have going on at the moment. Lexus were good too until their recent design philosophy change - I don't know what happened there! For me not long out of Uni my Mini will have to do me for a while yet

You know what, I take offense to this. You don't need to make a monster out of me to make a point about how wholesome you are. You owe me an apology.

I am pointing out how things are in the world as I observe it, I am not saying I subscribe to status symbolism. I did not buy my iPhone X's because they are status symbols, I bought them because my family needed new iPhone's and these suited our needs. What makes the iPhone a status symbol has nothing to do with it's owners but rather how others react to them.

It sounds like I hit a bit close to home? Nothing to do with me being wholesome, I just don't boast about having things, I have them for me and enjoy them! No no no no. Read back through all you've written over the course of this thread and then say this:

I am pointing out how things are in the world as I observe it, I am not saying I subscribe to status symbolism. I did not buy my iPhone X's because they are status symbols, I bought them because my family needed new iPhone's and these suited our needs. What makes the iPhone a status symbol has nothing to do with it's owners but rather how others react to them.

again with a straight face.

 

[martin2345uk]

Surely the simple actual answer is “to some people it’s a status symbol, and to others it’s not”.

I do know people who’d be impressed seeing someone with a X; I also know people who’d think that person was a sheep with more money than sense.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Agree with your first scenario where you're talking about kids & their shallowness.

Kids normally grow out of that phase though.

If I were in an adult environment where similar judgements were made, I'd find it both ridiculous & immature.

I was thinking the same thing, it all sounds rather pathetic and desperate. It’s so far removed from my world it’s unreal. I understand kids being shallow as peer pressure among teens is intense, but we tend to mature beyond that. Nobody where I work gives a toss what phone you own and neither do any of my friends.

My friends husband had an iPhone X when we met up yesterday and I was the only person who asked him about it. Nobody else around the table even knew what it was. As it happened he’s getting rid of it and getting an 8 Plus. It had some big gouges out the side of it too where it had been dropped lol.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I am pointing out how things are in the world as I observe it, I am not saying I subscribe to status symbolism. I did not buy my iPhone X's because they are status symbols, I bought them because my family needed new iPhone's and these suited our needs. What makes the iPhone a status symbol has nothing to do with it's owners but rather how others react to them.

You certainly do subscribe to status symbolism. You shamelessly boast about how you flash your iPhone about and the perception you feel others have about your cars and personal possessions. You’ve stated people who wear Rolex’s and have newer iPhones where you work are taken more seriously than people who are perhaps better at the job and you’ve admitted you’d hire those people based on what iPhone they use. You are the very epitome of what you now deny being.

You give us plenty of laughs here but in all seriousness you stand out because of how boastful you are. The reactions and criticism you get is not making you out to be a monster because the fact of the matter is most people don’t really like others that boast and project themselves as superior. The comment you made about your sons friends all using cracked iPhone 6’s while your children use X’s just highlights how you are teaching them to have exactly the same superior mindset. The parents of those other children perhaps feel an iPhone 6 is a very generous gadget for a child and want their children to grow up respecting their things with not everything being given to them.

Not everybody needs to show wealth to get far in life and have respect. You referred to me as a ‘poor person’ recently because I don’t have an iPhone X and that pretty much proves the point I’ve made above.

 

[akash.nu]

Not everybody needs to show wealth to get far in life and have respect. You referred to me as a ‘poor person’ recently because I don’t have an iPhone X and that pretty much proves the point I’ve made above.

On that note, I couldn’t care less if someone considers me rich or poor.

 

[apolloa]

It's like there being 29 million bugattis..just say'n

FACT:: NOTHING APPLE MAKES IS A STATUS SYMBOL.

Only very shallow people believe this to make themselves feel special and elite.

My sister is rich, won’t say exactly how much she’s on or what she does but it’s over 100 grand sterling and for a huge well known international corporation, and guess what phone she has? An iPhone 6S and a Tesco cheap sim only contract....

She’s more interested in spending her money on family and experiences like nice holidays etc, more important stuff then a phone...

In fact most ‘board room’ or high earners are like this.

And a Rolex is considered to be the low end of luxury Swiss time pieces..

 

[boltjames]

It sounds like I hit a bit close to home?

Close to home, nothing. Your judgement and stereotyping of me is just as bad as what you accuse me of, quite hypocritical.

Nothing to do with me being wholesome, I just don't boast about having things, I have them for me and enjoy them! No no no no.

Stop using my posts as a way to start a speech about how pious a person you are. Just post that on its own, see how well that goes over.
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Surely the simple actual answer is “to some people it’s a status symbol, and to others it’s not”.

I do know people who’d be impressed seeing someone with a X; I also know people who’d think that person was a sheep with more money than sense.

Simple as that, really. It all depends on a specific set of circumstances. If you live in farm country the quality of your pocket knife is more important than the price of your car, if you work in Manhattan it's the trinkets like wristwatches and smartphones that tell the story.

The iPhone X is something special. It's the most expensive smartphone from the most luxurious and technologically advanced producer of consumer electronics. It's been this way with every Apple product for the past 30+ years. Premium products for premium consumers.
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FACT:: NOTHING APPLE MAKES IS A STATUS SYMBOL.

Only very shallow people believe this to make themselves feel special and elite.

....and again with the judgement, like there is a wrong way to enjoy one's success or personal possessions. Read:

sta·tus sym·bol
noun
noun: status symbol; plural noun: status symbols

1. a possession that is taken to indicate a person's wealth or high social or professional status.

FACT: EVERYTHING APPLE MAKES IS A STATUS SYMBOL. Only very elitist people believe they're not so as to make themselves believe they are not shallow when, in fact, they ARE.

The fact that you think a $2,500 MacBook is nothing special and doesn't represent wealth when the average person can barely scrape together $499 for a budget Dell notebook at Best Buy very much tells the story, doesn't it?

We are all quite well off. Time to admit it rather than run from it.

 

[JediZenMaster]

On that note, I couldn’t care less if someone considers me rich or poor.

Same here! Folks who do that I have no respect for them.

 

[mackinmike]

Lol. A status symbol? that's some funny stuff. So if buying something that cost 1k make you appear rich, you're in for a rude awakening.
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The CEO of my company (fortune 100, 20k+ employees, makes $10M year + bonus) has an iPhone 5C and drives a Camry.

...... but has his lambo and a ferarri tucked away in the garage at home. You forgot to mentioned that.

 

[boltjames]

Lol. A status symbol? that's some funny stuff. So if buying something that cost 1k make you appear rich, you're in for a rude awakening.

You're at a dinner party at the bosses home.

One associate brings a $10 bottle of wine they advertise on TV. Another brings one that everyone knows costs $900.

Which one does the boss and others attending the party think has more taste, has more style, has more sophistication, and is more comfortable financially?

Thank you. That's what the iPhone X represents. Someone goes into a meeting and sets down an iPhone 5, another goes in and lays down an iPhone X, it says something about both owners.

 

[Ffosse]

I know of homeless people, living in hostels, who have an iPhone X and are living off tax payers money - are they special?

No, just an example of spending money unwisely.

 

[mackinmike]

The guy with an non-iphonex can also bring a $900 bottle wine irrespective of what phone he has. So what? Will he be judged on the phone alone? An what about other accessories he might be wearing? Like an AP or Patek watch? At that point who cares what effin phone he has. Lol.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

You're at a dinner party at the bosses home.

One associate brings a $10 bottle of wine they advertise on TV. Another brings one that everyone knows costs $900.

Which one does the boss and others attending the party think has more taste, has more style, has more sophistication, and is more comfortable financially?

Thank you. That's what the iPhone X represents. Someone goes into a meeting and sets down an iPhone 5, another goes in and lays down an iPhone X, it says something about both owners.

Or which one does the boss realise they are paying too much and adds to the redundancy list on Monday morning?

 

[maflynn]

[MOD NOTE]
This thread is off the rails - closing it down.