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I could go on and on about things Apple Music did that drove me nuts. Just a few…it would upload a CD using the match service. I was lucky if the explicit versions matched to the explicit versions and not clean. This was also a problem with the official iTunes Match service when it came out in 2011 or 2012. What it also did was it would match those songs to the library, and if the song ever disappeared from the AM catalog (if the right ended or for whatever other reason), then it would grey out the song in my library. My own ripped song that they matched!! In my eyes, if a matched song disappears from the catalog, then the computer where the original lives should automatically upload it to the iCloud Music Library to replace it, instead of rendering your own ripped song useless.

Another thing it did was caused me tons of headaches managing metadata. Often times changes I would make wouldn’t sync, or Apple Music in its own would randomly split albums and make it impossible to rejoin them. Even if I could get the computer to rejoin them, they may not show up that way on the other devices.

Another thing is it really didn’t like duplicates of songs in the library. For instance, greatest hits and an album having the same song. Often times the song would disappear out of its main album. Lo and behold, I’d still find it in the greatest hits. So I still had the song, but not in both places. Other times, I wouldn’t even have the greatest hits in my library, and yet it would switch the album version of a song for the greatest hits version. So let’s take Eminem “My Name Is” for example. I have the slim shady LP in my library and do NOT have Curtain Call: The Hits. One day My Name Is disappears from the LP and shows up in my library under Curtain Call. I open curtain call and go figure, My Name Is is the only song in there because I didn’t have Chrtain Call in my library.

All of that type of crap happened all the time. I had a 30k song library. Jay is a lot to constantly manage when so many issues pop up. I just couldn’t deal with it anymore.

At least with my CDs I pretty much manage the library and leave it alone.

I have said it before, what I think Apple should do is redo iCloud music library and how it works in theory. Let it be a hard drive for your music and let it use iCloud storage. I would happily pay for 2TB of iCloud storage to store my whole library on iCloud and upload exact copies. I don’t even need the Apple Music catalog. Songs disappearing at random makes Apple Music not worth it for me. I’d rather just own the music. The problem is getting the music to my phone. Syncing over a cable works fine, but it is Stone Age level. If iML was a hard drive in the sky built into the music app that runs through iCloud, that would solve every complaint I have as long as they built it to sync properly. Knowing Apple, they would probably ruin the syncing somehow though.
I managed most of those horrors by disabling "manage my library"

That has saved so so so many issues. I have about 10K CDs ripped. I did a backup before I tried iTunes (back in the day) and still maintain a backup out of Music's reach. No - I don't trust it.
 
I managed most of those horrors by disabling "manage my library"

That has saved so so so many issues. I have about 10K CDs ripped. I did a backup before I tried iTunes (back in the day) and still maintain a backup out of Music's reach. No - I don't trust it.
Sounds familiar but I don’t recall that specific setting. Sounds like something I should have unclicked.

10k CDs is quite impressive. My dad has “a lot” and he’s at like 1500. He has more than 99.9% of people, so you’re way way up there.
 
DUMPED Apple Music a LONG time ago. The App was so poorly designed--with no option for tabs or a proper song listening history.
 
Anyone else getting 1-2 second pauses in music randomly every 10-15 minutes? Happens on my latest gen big HomePods that are paired and also on my OG large HomePods that are paired. Is this a problem only for those that pair their HomePods?
 
I've actually gotten some decent stuff out of the the Discovery station. Not everything, but it definitely is picking some new music out that matches. Granted - I've had to select specific songs and elevate them to get Discovery working - in its first try - it was worthless. But about a year ago, and possibly with enough "likes" it started providing better selections.

Note: I'm explicitly NOT looking for the pandora/spotify "you are listening to x from 20 years ago, here's y from 25 years ago you might like". Absolutely not what I want at all, as I'm looking for new things similar to a selection of music I own. Apple Discovery does this better than anyone else, for me anyways.
Maybe I will try the discovery station. It sounds interesting, but I’m kind of picky so we’ll see 😂


What I mean is for example on Spotify it will create a playlist for me that has songs I like based on the songs I listened to in the past. It’s not the same exact songs, but similar songs. Apple Music seems to be unable to do this.

Also, I had high hopes for Apple Music classical because sometimes I want to relax and listen to classical music. The problem is even though Apple Music Classical is a separate app, my listening history gets mixed in with the regular Apple Music app. Then I start getting classical songs suggested on Apple Music.
 
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That’s so weird. I’ve never ran into that bug. It’s only with playlists? Maybe that’s why I haven’t ran into it.

My issue with Apple Music is the algorithm isn’t smart enough to automatically play songs that I like. Spotify has a much better algorithm, but with all their legal crap going on I canceled them. I’m honestly too lazy to make dedicated playlists for music. I used to do it back in the day with my iPod but now I just pick a song I want to listen to.
I hate Apple Music’s algorithm I know I’m basic but I like the pop/r&b/hip-hop music from the late 90s early 00s the crap it gives me is terrible songs I’d never listen to and even the curated crap from that time period sucks I’d like a song off of an album they are playing but never that actual song. I used to like the old genius option from the iPods that algorithm was better and it was just shuffling my own music not pulling from this vast library.
 
I managed most of those horrors by disabling "manage my library"
Me too. Do not let iTunes/Music manage your library. Most of the tracks go the right place, but the duets end up in Compilations. The issues with classical music are well documented. Imusici is the performer, but Mozart is the composer, but it never sorts by composer.

So I have a stack of playlists sorted by composer, but the rock is by band/album regardless of duets, etc.

Note that I don't stream anything, so that apparently avoids a different collection of problems. The music I have downloaded is only played locally and I have it on the Linux server and a second backup elsewhere.

I haven't downloaded many ebooks, but now that will have to be the strategy for them as well given titles are disappearing as well. I suppose I can make an exception for books from Project Gutenberg.
 
I managed most of those horrors by disabling "manage my library"
I don't see that setting in the Music app, either on my iPhone or my Macbook. The closest I see, on my Macbook, is Settings > Files > Keep Media Folder Organized. Maybe the name of this setting was changed since you last used it?
 
I never have a problem with Apple Music, but to be fair I don’t create playlists. The picture you showed is because whatever music you’re trying to play is blocked in your country. That’s likely due to copyright restrictions or local laws.
Same here, works great for me.
 
Ten years in and still bugs galore, simple functions like creating playlists don't work reliably. Awful.
This happens to me everyday.
I use AM for 9-10 hours a day at work, training and everywhere i go, and i see this crap everyday.

And it’s not only in playlists that you create your self, it’s in a artists albums also.
 
This happens to me everyday.
I use AM for 9-10 hours a day at work, training and everywhere i go, and i see this crap everyday.

And it’s not only in playlists that you create your self, it’s in a artists albums also.

So bad. Doesn't anybody at Apple actually use it?!
 
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apple music turned out to be a nightmare after all these years. I’m 100% a pop guy and heard the new linkin park album a few times and my whole feed is now packed with hardrock, metal and other music I really dislike. I don’t know what to do since I can’t delete my account and start from zero.
lol. Didn’t meant to make this pun
 
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Ten years in and still bugs galore, simple functions like creating playlists don't work reliably. Awful.
Despite owning Filemaker that has had bombproof databases since the 1980s and killing off Aperture (WTF?!?!) with its bombproof image databases, Apple sucks with its 2025 databases Music, Books and Photos. Go figure.

I greatly admire Tim Cook, but he should/could have continued the solid database work Apple proved themselves good at long ago. Those three apps perform at worse-than-last-century competence; the VPs for Apple's databasing need to be doing something else.

P.S. I have been building DBs in FMP since before FMP became relational.
 
Sounds familiar but I don’t recall that specific setting. Sounds like something I should have unclicked.

10k CDs is quite impressive. My dad has “a lot” and he’s at like 1500. He has more than 99.9% of people, so you’re way way up there.
I collected a whole bunch in the 80s, when they first came out - college students would buy things, and then dump them cheap if they didn't like them. Stopped in at least weekly and spent $20 and walked out with 5-10 disks. You also had things like Columbia house, I got hundreds from them alone for a fraction of the actual cost to mostly replace LP copies as they became available. Then the 90s with just tons of awesome music everywhere (I do miss the golden era, before every preteen with a loop app could pollute the ecosystem) Then you have the friends with oddities and here - why don't you listen to this.... Hell, I have like 100 XMas CDs alone. 3 versions of Time/Life alone is something like 12 CDs. There's quite a bit of overlap, especially with live and greatest hits albums. Heck, I may still have 1000 DVDs in the cabinets under the TV and in boxes in the closet. I donated my entire collection of HD-DVDs when those got cancelled.

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Unchecking those leaves files where they are, and won't copy them into your system disk. Perfect for externally stored media, especially when that library size starts being more than the average mac system disk. The truly annoying thing is that Apple doesn't ask you on initial startup to configure these, and if you make the mistake of sym-linking to an external, funky stuff will likely happen to your disk, especially if it only partially matches what Music thinks the hierarchy should be.

Note: my library is served from a media server, the laptop isn't used as a repository.
 
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Despite owning Filemaker that has had bombproof databases since the 1980s and killing off Aperture (WTF?!?!) with its bombproof image databases, Apple sucks with its 2025 databases Music, Books and Photos. Go figure.

I greatly admire Tim Cook, but he should/could have continued the solid database work Apple proved themselves good at long ago. Those three apps perform at worse-than-last-century competence; the VPs for Apple's databasing need to be doing something else.

P.S. I have been building DBs in FMP since before FMP became relational.
Aperture, how I miss thee. But I get why they killed it. The codebase was a monolith written in a different time, patched and hacked for a system that no longer exists. Migrating all that tech debt into the new world of 64 bit was likely a bigger problem than they wanted to take on. Also, Aperture hit its limits with 5-10k photos, and storing multiple libraries and managing it all was tedious. So there were shortcomings.

I'm still not happy with the current options, but some of those replacements have capabilities far in excess of Aperture. Even Photos is passable for the average person. But I do miss the pro features. Luminar NEO has some good functionality. I'm also looking at On 1.
 
I don't see that setting in the Music app, either on my iPhone or my Macbook. The closest I see, on my Macbook, is Settings > Files > Keep Media Folder Organized. Maybe the name of this setting was changed since you last used it?
Music/Settings/Files/Keep Music Media Files Organized. (this is Sonoma)

Yes they did rename it.
 
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Unchecking those leaves files where they are, and won't copy them into your system disk. Perfect for externally stored media, especially when that library size starts being more than the average mac system disk. The truly annoying thing is that Apple doesn't ask you on initial startup to configure these, and if you make the mistake of sym-linking to an external, funky stuff will likely happen to your disk, especially if it only partially matches what Music thinks the hierarchy should be.

Note: my library is served from a media server, the laptop isn't used as a repository.
See, I actually leave both of those checked intentionally and I’ve never had trouble due to those settings. Keeping the folder organized for me means that when I rename a song, it renames the file, and when I change any sort of other metadata, that updates the files as well. I like that. Copying to the media folder also just means that anything I import to the library will go into the central media folder location which is where I want everything.

Otherwise when I add things they would remain where they are, which is more difficult to manage for me. But I like to keep a computer that has large enough storage for me to just keep everything on the main drive itself.

My issues have always been specifically related to Apple Music and iCloud music library, which are the offenders driving me bonkers. Sadly there are no such settings to fix those.
 
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My favourite Apple Music blunder is when you make a one letter typo when searching for something, you get NOTHING. Not even a "Hey, did you mean this?" Just straight no results found lol
 
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I have thousands of songs and hundreds of albums, and have many playlists. I love Apple Music, and have never had an issue using it.
 
I am probably going to get blasted for saying this in this thread but I have found YouTube Music is actually pretty good as far as the algorithm goes. I’ve subscribed to Apple Music since day 1 and I agree with OP, it’s still a bug ridden pos with god awful UX decisions and a TERRIBLE algorithm. I mean they had YEARS of my listening habits from iTunes era purchases, iTunes Match data, and Apple Music listening history and to this day it still sucks. I’m over the LOSSLESS meme too. I have A/B tested so many songs between FLAC, AAC, OPUS across so many different high end speakers and headphones and anyone who is telling you they can definitely tell the difference is full of ****. There is no noticeable difference between FLAC and OPUS, apart from a drastically smaller use of data. One thing that drives me nuts on Apple Music and has never been fixed for years, is the small skip that happens sometimes at the beginning of a song. It is from having lossless turned on and being off WiFi and the service glitches for a second loading in the lossless version. A music streaming service that can’t even smoothly playback music. An absolute joke.
 
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It was frustrating enough for me that I ditched it and went back to ripping CDs and syncing via a cable. Not really a fan but I no longer feel like I’m throwing money out the window every year for a half baked service. I subscribed for over 10 years and had enough.
I’m the same. I tried it for a year though and it always bugged me how there would be loads of tracks missing off soundtracks or compilations…

Plus I only listen to same music and all I streamed I owned so it was a bit wasteful.

I do miss the lossless high res though
 
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