MP 7,1 How Long will Apple Support 7,1 Mac Pro with Mac OS?

[Exit_74]

At the end of the day, any functioning old Mac, MacBook, or PC will still be usable after 10 years.

It's really down to the use case and expectations.

I think marketing have got many people to believe the previous model is obsolete and need to purchase the new product.

Drive it to the ground or buy a new

Agreed usecase and its different if you are a company. But Apple is pretending too be a green Company (Good for Nature and into recycling) but if you are really into a better world why not support macs for ten years (hardwaresupport as in normal applecare but MacOs support 10 years) and use only one version of MacOS and support Intel and Apple Silicon. But why every two years a new version of MacOS imho that is a waste of money...upgrade, patch and choose one version of MacOs and make it better support your loyal customers Apple. My 2 cents...

 

[4wdwrx]

Agreed usecase and its different if you are a company. But Apple is pretending too be a green Company (Good for Nature and into recycling) but if you are really into a better world why not support macs for ten years (hardwaresupport as in normal applecare but MacOs support 10 years) and use only one version of MacOS and support Intel and Apple Silicon. But why every two years a new version of MacOS imho that is a waste of money...upgrade, patch and choose one version of MacOs and make it better support your loyal customers Apple. My 2 cents...

Very true, Apple know most people are sensitive to environmental concerns. The perception of green sells.

Like electric vehicles, it sells a perception of clean and free natural energy, however each EV has equivalent CO2 emissions of an ICE vehicle driven 50k to 90k miles (Volvo did the study). So right off the line, it is like driving a gas guzzler for 90k miles.

 

[randy85]

Going off nothing but vibes, I expect Apple to support the Intel Mac Pro to at least 2028; with at least the next round of AMD GPUs supported. I think hold-outs will (as always) keep them trucking for some time after that.

I just think some institutions sunk so much into the high-end configurations that Apple wouldn't risk angering them like they have in the past. I also think from a marketing level, Apple want to be seen facilitating science/research/medical use with their products, so it's worth throwing some resources to it even though it's a shrinking pool of users.

 

[RadioHedgeFund]

The beauty of any computer is that it doesn't really ever age. I have a 2006 OG Macbook that still runs ok. If I use the built-in apps, apps of the day (Growl, Pixelmator 1.0, Quicksilver) and time-appropriate other apps (eg Photoshop CS2) then its fine.

The 2019 Mac Pro is still a blistering machine and likely to be so for the next 5 years at least.

 

[opeter]

If Apple drops support, you can always install a compatible Microsoft Windows or any other x86-64 operating systems, that are supporting your hardware (Linux OS, FreeBSD, Haiku OS etc.).

But you can also use the last supported macOS on the computer until it dies.

 

[m1maverick]

Going off nothing but vibes, I expect Apple to support the Intel Mac Pro to at least 2028; with at least the next round of AMD GPUs supported. I think hold-outs will (as always) keep them trucking for some time after that.

I just think some institutions sunk so much into the high-end configurations that Apple wouldn't risk angering them like they have in the past. I also think from a marketing level, Apple want to be seen facilitating science/research/medical use with their products, so it's worth throwing some resources to it even though it's a shrinking pool of users.

It's my opinion Apple is making it a shrinking pool of users. Ever since the announcement of the 6,1 Mac Pro many users voiced their displeasure by not having an upgradeable / expandable Mac Pro like the 1,1 - 5,1 Mac Pros. That was partially remedied with the release of the 7,1 Mac Pro but the price, and some of the artificial limits (such as the initially non-user upgradable SSD), still kept it out of the hands of many.

 

[Exit_74]

It's my opinion Apple is making it a shrinking pool of users. Ever since the announcement of the 6,1 Mac Pro many users voiced their displeasure by not having an upgradeable / expandable Mac Pro like the 1,1 - 5,1 Mac Pros. That was partially remedied with the release of the 7,1 Mac Pro but the price, and some of the artificial limits (such as the initially non-user upgradable SSD), still kept it out of the hands of many.

and Apple does alot more, too create a shrinking pool of IntelMAC users like finetuning their MacOS especially for AS chips so its runs better and faster then the Intel version, and let people think their IntelMAC is a dud thats need replacing...its all marketing which i understand. Yes the 7,1 MP is a fantastic machine would love to own one...first win the lottery

 

[maikerukun]

Going off nothing but vibes, I expect Apple to support the Intel Mac Pro to at least 2028; with at least the next round of AMD GPUs supported. I think hold-outs will (as always) keep them trucking for some time after that.

I just think some institutions sunk so much into the high-end configurations that Apple wouldn't risk angering them like they have in the past. I also think from a marketing level, Apple want to be seen facilitating science/research/medical use with their products, so it's worth throwing some resources to it even though it's a shrinking pool of users.

I 100% agree with this. I love my w6800x Duos and as a set of 4 GPU's they are stupidly fast and the 7000 series will honestly keep me on this machine for at least another 6 years...It's going to be very difficult to pull me away from this...in fact, between the 7000 series AND an updated Afterburner card to compete with the M series AS, I would not leave this thing for probably a full 10 years...just no reason for it at that point lol.

 

[avro707]

Going off nothing but vibes, I expect Apple to support the Intel Mac Pro to at least 2028; with at least the next round of AMD GPUs supported. I think hold-outs will (as always) keep them trucking for some time after that.

I just think some institutions sunk so much into the high-end configurations that Apple wouldn't risk angering them like they have in the past. I also think from a marketing level, Apple want to be seen facilitating science/research/medical use with their products, so it's worth throwing some resources to it even though it's a shrinking pool of users.

I have not put quite as much money into it as some organisations, but still AUD$16K is a big chunk of money and they are going to get another $4.2K for a second MPX module.

We deserve to be properly supported going forward on account of just how much we’ve invested. If they upset us for sure we will walk away from Apple and not return.

 

[maikerukun]

I have not put quite as much money into it as some organisations, but still AUD$16K is a big chunk of money and they are going to get another $4.2K for a second MPX module.

We deserve to be properly supported going forward on account of just how much we’ve invested. If they upset us for sure we will walk away from Apple and not return.

Honestly, I don't see them NOT supporting us consistently for the next 7 to 10 years. I think the 7000 series from AMD will definitely be coming to the 7.1 and honestly I could see an upgrade to Afterburner and EVEN a Mac Pro 7.1 REFRESH to the hardware to update for PCIe 5 and the motherboard, especially if they slip further than 1 year off on the delivery of the 8.1

 

[prefuse07]

Honestly, I don't see them NOT supporting us consistently for the next 7 to 10 years. I think the 7000 series from AMD will definitely be coming to the 7.1 and honestly I could see an upgrade to Afterburner and EVEN a Mac Pro 7.1 REFRESH to the hardware to update for PCIe 5 and the motherboard, especially if they slip further than 1 year off on the delivery of the 8.1

I'm still wondering why the recently released RX-6x50 series don't have drivers for macOS?... could that be a sign that apple is straight up trying to pull an Nvidia with AMD? The 6x50 series were released 2 months ago, and we've already had at least 2 updates to BigSur and Monterey and it looks like there is still NO mention of drivers for those cards. Don't you guys find that a little perplexing?

Just some food for thought.

 

[PowerMike G5]

I'm still wondering why the recently released RX-6x50 series don't have drivers for macOS?... could that be a sign that apple is straight up trying to pull an Nvidia with AMD? The 6x50 series were released 2 months ago, and we've already had at least 2 updates to BigSur and Monterey and it looks like there is still NO mention of drivers for those cards. Don't you guys find that a little perplexing?

Just some food for thought.

It's probably too small of an update for them to put the effort in. They had to for the main RX6800/6900 as they were releasing official MPX products, so the of-the-shelf cards getting support just coincided there.

 

[TrevorR90]

I'm still wondering why the recently released RX-6x50 series don't have drivers for macOS?... could that be a sign that apple is straight up trying to pull an Nvidia with AMD? The 6x50 series were released 2 months ago, and we've already had at least 2 updates to BigSur and Monterey and it looks like there is still NO mention of drivers for those cards. Don't you guys find that a little perplexing?

Just some food for thought.

Didn't it take a while for Apple to release drivers for the 6900/6800 cards?

 

[jscipione]

I'd give favorable odds the 6,1 will be supported for one more release (but only one more release mind you!) Otherwise Apple will set a new record for fastest-support-drop-after-discontinuation, which might also be awkward if 6,1 stops receiving security updates before it becomes Vintage.

How’s that 6,1 support for macOS 13 prediction going? Architecture switch is the exception to the rule when it comes to OS updates so who knows.

 

[prefuse07]

Didn't it take a while for Apple to release drivers for the 6900/6800 cards?

That's a good point, and something I didn't think about.

It took them 6 months to release the drivers after those two cards came out.

 

[maikerukun]

I'm still wondering why the recently released RX-6x50 series don't have drivers for macOS?... could that be a sign that apple is straight up trying to pull an Nvidia with AMD? The 6x50 series were released 2 months ago, and we've already had at least 2 updates to BigSur and Monterey and it looks like there is still NO mention of drivers for those cards. Don't you guys find that a little perplexing?

Just some food for thought.

I was going to share my opinion but it seems it was mostly covered by others lol, A: possibly too small of an update and B: if not they're likely gonna take some time. As long as the 7000 series gets support I'm happy lol.

 

[goMac]

Didn't it take a while for Apple to release drivers for the 6900/6800 cards?

I've heard Apple only does big GPU changes in certain OS updates intentionally, and will hold changes back. I don't know if they will do 69X0 drivers. I just know that major GPU updates are not done on an every-update cadence.

That may change with Apple Silicon drivers.

 

[greenmeanie]

Honestly, I don't see them NOT supporting us consistently for the next 7 to 10 years. I think the 7000 series from AMD will definitely be coming to the 7.1 and honestly I could see an upgrade to Afterburner and EVEN a Mac Pro 7.1 REFRESH to the hardware to update for PCIe 5 and the motherboard, especially if they slip further than 1 year off on the delivery of the 8.1

You are delusional.
That is what you want but not what Apple is going to do lol.

 

[maikerukun]

You are delusional.
That is what you want but not what Apple is going to do lol.

I'm not delusional for saying what I want lol. I don't think they'll do it. I just simply said I could see it. Don't get personal, kid. They will definitely support for the next 7 to 10 years...and the 7000 series AMD cards will almost definitely get a release as a refresh option. Hell, people seem to have forgotten, Apple actually said they STILL have TWO NEW INTEL MACS IN THE PIPELINE RIGHT NOW lol. I don't know what they'll be but wouldn't be shocked for them to be a final version of the Mac Pro and a final version of the Mac mini...can't see any other machines getting an Intel system.

A refreshed Mac Pro tower with a 64 core CPU, PCIe v5, and open GPU support would be a day 1 buy for me. I would literally and without hesitation throw down another $52k for that.