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Are you running 2.2.1?

  • Yes, I'm running 2.2.1 or lower.

    Votes: 4 2.4%
  • No, I'm running 3.0 or higher.

    Votes: 165 97.6%

  • Total voters
    169
OP u are right...imo anything after 2.2.1 has been terrible for iphone the issues are alarming and endless since 3.0 and above, just refer to the forums to confirm...again i think its just apples way of forcing users to upgrade their devices :eek:

A 3gs owner may run a certian F/W without issue whereas a 3g user running same F/W will have issues and bugs...So something in the FW upgrade will be tested with 3gs specs and work great but could cripple the older models...You will long for the shiny new 3gs...but only because your new F/W is making your current iphone look bad. So its not the phone, its the FIRMWARE.

2g owners seem to really suffer with the newer F/W upgrades which is probably intentional on apples part, as they try to drown out 2g functionality (long live J/B) to the point where users Long for a shiny new 3g...theres a pattern forming.

for example...Why did a 2g iphone not recieve MMS capabilities when it was afforded to the 3g when f/w 3.0 got released. It has nothing to do with the units capabilities as we can see from jb apps like "activate mms2g" Its mre than capable. Also camera is the same on both models, so no issue there.

Without jb 2g owners Long for a shiny new 3g/3gs.
And its now becoming more difficult for hackers to decod4e the latest fw upgrades. (fair enough on apples part to protect their product) but if this were to happen then users would have no option other than to go to the latest model/upgrade as the previous versions would become near obselete in functionality.
Apple and Itunes are imo a monopoly and most certinally manipulative! :eek:
Cheeky
 
I know that 3.0 ran considerably slower than 2.2.1 did on my old iPhone 3G.

On the 3GS, 3.1.2 runs much faster than 2.2.1 ever ran back on the 3G (for obvious reasons), but I do know that performance is best on 2.2.1.
 
I love that link in your sig. Great idea. I hate having to find the urls to paste with instructions in replies. I'm gonna do that too. Thanks for the clever idea. :D

That's exactly why I did it. From now on it's "see sig." :) I didn't bother with the link to recovery, because that'll just confuse them, probably....sigh. I love the ones who say they did it, but then you find out they really didn't (they're in recovery not DFU), or they argue that they're the same thing. If they didn't limit our characters, I'd put even more links there, but, oh well, wouldn't want MR to explode if we had 250 characters or so.
 
I was until a couple of weeks ago. I think I prefer it :p

You prefer 2.2.1? Awesome!

I bet all these people who are in denial about the performance decrease in 3.x are the same type of people who claimed that installing themes and jailbreak add-ons didn't slow down their iPhone 3G.

I dare anyone to go back to 2.2.1 just to see how silky it is.
 
You prefer 2.2.1? Awesome!

I bet all these people who are in denial about the performance decrease in 3.x are the same type of people who claimed that installing themes and jailbreak add-ons didn't slow down their iPhone 3G.

I dare anyone to go back to 2.2.1 just to see how silky it is.

For that matter let us all go back to 1.1.4.... that was the best firmware to date, fast response, all bugs were gone.
 
For that matter let us all go back to 1.1.4.... that was the best firmware to date, fast response, all bugs were gone.

We *all* cannot go back to 1.1.4 because the iPhone 3G doesn't support it. I do agree that 1.1.4 was very fast and stable though. However, there's a huge chunk missing from 1.1.4... the App Store. At least 2.2.1 can do the App Store.

The fact is, Apple's biggest concern is their newest hardware and focused on making it as good as possible. I don't think they're spending a great deal on optimizing last generation products to run well. However, 2.2.1 was designed with the iPhone 3G hardware in mind and nothing else. 3.x was designed with the 3GS hardware in mind... why do you think everything runs perfect on the iPhone 3GS? Plus, Apple is probably getting a lot of people to upgrade to 3GS to get better performance. They're using 3.x on their iPhone 3G and say "Wow, the iPhone 3GS really does run a lot better than my 3G, I really want one now!".

2.2.1 runs like a dream on my iPhone 3G.

3.1.2 is getting there, but it still needs some work. I really hope they fix it up nice for 3.2.

I'm not holding my breath though.
 
I am on 3.1.2 and I hate it. I have been googling for hours and can't find a clear way to downgrade back to 2.2.1. :(
 
Hi Folks,

I think that here there are lots of misundertoods, so I will explain my own experience, with enough details to be able to compare "Apples with Apples", fine?

Well, I used two iPhones for my comparison:

1) iPhone 3G-16GB with FW 2.2.1 (not jailbreaked neither hacked in any way)
1) iPhone 3G-16GB with FW 3.1.2 (not jailbreaked neither hacked in any way)

Then, I was running several aplications in both, and you know what? :confused:

I DIDN´T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE AT ALL! :eek:

All the applications that come with the iPhone OS were equally fast: Contacts, Camera, Calendar, iPod, App Store,... well in fact Safary was FASTER on the FW3.1.2. :D

So, although the iPhone 3G with FW 2.2.1 was mine, and the iPhone 3G with FW 3.1.2 from a friend,... you know what? I am going to upgrade my iPhone 3G to the FW 3.1.2 after waiting a long time because after checking both in my hands, I didn´t see a good reason to not do it at all. ;)

Finally, whenever do you want to explain your own experience, please, indicate which iPhone you have (2G/3G/3GS) and if it has been jailbroken or hacked in any way, because of course, the performance will never be the same. So try to avoid comparisons between the 3G and the 3GS, and even between hacked, or not, iPhones.

Thanks & Cheers! :apple:
 
Hi Folks,

I think that here there are lots of misundertoods, so I will explain my own experience, with enough details to be able to compare "Apples with Apples", fine?

Well, I used two iPhones for my comparison:

1) iPhone 3G-16GB with FW 2.2.1 (not jailbreaked neither hacked in any way)
1) iPhone 3G-16GB with FW 3.1.2 (not jailbreaked neither hacked in any way)

Then, I was running several aplications in both, and you know what? :confused:

I DIDN´T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE AT ALL! :eek:

All the applications that come with the iPhone OS were equally fast: Contacts, Camera, Calendar, iPod, App Store,... well in fact Safary was FASTER on the FW3.1.2. :D

So, although the iPhone 3G with FW 2.2.1 was mine, and the iPhone 3G with FW 3.1.2 from a friend,... you know what? I am going to upgrade my iPhone 3G to the FW 3.1.2 after waiting a long time because after checking both in my hands, I didn´t see a good reason to not do it at all. ;)

Finally, whenever do you want to explain your own experience, please, indicate which iPhone you have (2G/3G/3GS) and if it has been jailbroken or hacked in any way, because of course, the performance will never be the same. So try to avoid comparisons between the 3G and the 3GS, and even between hacked, or not, iPhones.

Thanks & Cheers! :apple:

Running applications in 3.1.2 is fine. I just have a problem when opening Mail or Voice Memos or various third party apps. The other thing is bringing up the keyboard in Messages. Also, the iPhone starts to stutter a lot of the animations while listening to music from the dock connector, but it's really good in 2.2.1.

Plus, I don't like Messages just turning on it's side accidentally when I move my phone slightly.

I guess 2.2.1 just simply floats my boat. It's not for everyone though. If 3.1.2 runs "fine" for YOU then you've got nothing to worry about. Some people prefer other things. Many people have different tastes.
 
You just love attention don't you? I have an iPhone 3G and a 3GS, in terms of navigating around, minimal difference in speed. The minimal difference is outweighed by all the great features (copy and paste, turn by turn GPS, spotlight, YouTube subscriptions, etc.)

You really should see a doctor. Your OCD is ridiculous. I don't know who was more annoying, Tallest Skil or you.
 
You just love attention don't you? I have an iPhone 3G and a 3GS, in terms of navigating around, minimal difference in speed. The minimal difference is outweighed by all the great features (copy and paste, turn by turn GPS, spotlight, YouTube subscriptions, etc.)

You really should see a doctor. Your OCD is ridiculous. I don't know who was more annoying, Tallest Skil or you.

The fact that I prefer 2.2.1 is no different than the people who prefer 10.4 Tiger. To me, 2.2.1 has every feature I need. I realized I could live without copy and paste and landscape SMS for the extra performance increase of 2.2.1.

I don't understand why you critisize me for my tastes. Everyone has their own needs and to me 2.2.1 is where I'm happy. Just accept that someone else is different than you.

Really, the overall look and feel of 2.2.1 is the reason why I'm staying. Until Apple can give me a good experience on 3.x, I'll stay on 2.2.1 because copy and paste is more of a luxury than a necessity to me.
 
I found a video online that shows the difference between 2.2 and 3.0.

Specifically watch when he opens Phone, Safari and DEFINITELY Mail. When he opens phone on 3.0, you only see a tiny sliver of the icons flying away… same with Safari, but on 2.2 it's the entire animation. Then when he opens Mail, you don't get any icon fly-away effect, but on 2.2, it's perfectly smooth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz5VQUFFXME

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39zdIl9R3lM <--- Watch when this guy opens Notes and Voice Memos. Notes only shows the last tiny sliver of the icons flying away and Voice Memos doesn't show the icons at all when it opens.
 
no way...i need 3.0 because of all the improvements it has.

also, i use a 3GS so i dont know if its possible to downgrade...not like i would ever want to anyway.
 
no way...i need 3.0 because of all the improvements it has.

also, i use a 3GS so i dont know if its possible to downgrade...not like i would ever want to anyway.

The iPhone 3GS is truly an awesome device… just wish I would have liked mine. :(
 
I found a video online that shows the difference between 2.2 and 3.0.

Specifically watch when he opens Phone, Safari and DEFINITELY Mail. When he opens phone on 3.0, you only see a tiny sliver of the icons flying away… same with Safari, but on 2.2 it's the entire animation. Then when he opens Mail, you don't get any icon fly-away effect, but on 2.2, it's perfectly smooth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz5VQUFFXME

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39zdIl9R3lM <--- Watch when this guy opens Notes and Voice Memos. Notes only shows the last tiny sliver of the icons flying away and Voice Memos doesn't show the icons at all when it opens.

Sorry, but your only good point here is the Mail.

A lot of the tasks, the 3.0 was faster at (and smooth). Sure, 3.0 will be slightly slower overall, but what about all of the great features it adds? Also, I'm sure 3.1.2 is faster than 3.0.
 
Sorry, but your only good point here is the Mail.

A lot of the tasks, the 3.0 was faster at (and smooth). Sure, 3.0 will be slightly slower overall, but what about all of the great features it adds? Also, I'm sure 3.1.2 is faster than 3.0.

I think you're missing the fact that I just like 2.2.1 in it's enirety and it's overall better for me. I don't use copy and paste very much, but I'm not going to lie, it is nice to have, but I'd rather be on 2.2.1. Here's to hoping that 3.2 will finally make me upgrade for good.
 
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