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According to Adobe the Intel HD GPUs are supported:

http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photoshop-cs6-gpu-faq.html

The Intel HD3000 definitely didn't support the OpenCL portion, which is only used in a few things. In the barefeats tests, the 2012 Airs are back far enough to suggest that gpu acceleration isn't possible on the liquify or iris blur tests. These were taken a while ago when it came out. It's fully possible this has been updated. The mini is faster. I just used those as they were the only integrated graphics option that was represented.
 
yup sounds great. This is all great info for myself so type away. I am going to get the refurb directly from Apple tonight at 519. Ill be sure to run the memtest.

Crucial sounds good for ram. Im going to just get the 1333. Its sufficient.

Any suggestions for a ssd? I was thinking OCZ Vertex 4 or Samsung 830... any input there? Mini 2011 is Sata III, correct? So I should be all set to swap this ssd into the next mac mini as well I think.


I will recommend OCZ Vertex 4 until I'm blue in the face :p

Mine works PERFECTLY, and gives me results better than ones I've seen from Samsung. Yes, it's a very RELIABLE drive. No argument there, but the Vertex 4 in hands down the fastest drive I've ever tested. And yes, there are other drives that perform better in 1 or 2 tests, but I'm talking from an overall average of the tests. Especially when looking at uncompressable data, there's no contest. The Vertex 4 wins hands down every time.

It also comes with a 5 year warranty, and excellent customer service.

Again, no argument that the 830 is a solid SSD. However, the OCZ is way better in my opinion. And at $99 for 128GB on Amazon ($199.99 for 256GB) it's a steal for a drive this fast.


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By the way, to answer your question, Yes, the Mini is a SATA III

Also, if you go to crucial's website the 1600mhz RAM is only $5 more than the 1333. It's a speed boost, regardless if you personally notice it, for only $5 more lol. I'll be getting the 1600 when I order my Mini in September (got like 2.5 weeks left lol)
 
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I assumed that the Adobe list is referring to the HD4000 and newer, since I already knew that the HD3000 was not compatible. I recall reading somewhere a month or two ago that the HD4000 is compatible but I wanted to confirm it first before posting. I figure that the Adobe list is good enough for me unless someone comes up with something more specific.

BTW thekev, thanks for all the good info. I almost always find something worthwhile in your posts. A lot of posts on MacRumors are long on emotion and short on fact and first-hand experience.

Now if Apple would just update the Mac Mini... :rolleyes:
 
I will recommend OCZ Vertex 4 until I'm blue in the face :p

Mine works PERFECTLY, and gives me results better than ones I've seen from Samsung. Yes, it's a very RELIABLE drive. No argument there, but the Vertex 4 in hands down the fastest drive I've ever tested. And yes, there are other drives that perform better in 1 or 2 tests, but I'm talking from an overall average of the tests. Especially when looking at uncompressable data, there's no contest. The Vertex 4 wins hands down every time.

It also comes with a 5 year warranty, and excellent customer service.

Again, no argument that the 830 is a solid SSD. However, the OCZ is way better in my opinion. And at $99 for 128GB on Amazon ($199.99 for 256GB) it's a steal for a drive this fast.


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By the way, to answer your question, Yes, the Mini is a SATA III

Also, if you go to crucial's website the 1600mhz RAM is only $5 more than the 1333. It's a speed boost, regardless if you personally notice it, for only $5 more lol. I'll be getting the 1600 when I order my Mini in September (got like 2.5 weeks left lol)


^^^ going with the OCZ Vertex 4 after much research since yesterday and your post just confirmed it. So thanks! I am however really confused about which RAM to buy. It seems like to me a lot of suspect ram is being sold out there which is causing systems to crash and not all of them are having problems right away. Some are starting to see issues a couple weeks after installing.

It does however seem like Crucial RAM seems to be deemed as quality stuff around here...


I assumed that the Adobe list is referring to the HD4000 and newer, since I already knew that the HD3000 was not compatible. I recall reading somewhere a month or two ago that the HD4000 is compatible but I wanted to confirm it first before posting. I figure that the Adobe list is good enough for me unless someone comes up with something more specific.

BTW thekev, thanks for all the good info. I almost always find something worthwhile in your posts. A lot of posts on MacRumors are long on emotion and short on fact and first-hand experience.

Now if Apple would just update the Mac Mini... :rolleyes:


^^^This. +1
 
^^^ going with the OCZ Vertex 4 after much research since yesterday and your post just confirmed it. So thanks! I am however really confused about which RAM to buy. It seems like to me a lot of suspect ram is being sold out there which is causing systems to crash and not all of them are having problems right away. Some are starting to see issues a couple weeks after installing.

It does however seem like Crucial RAM seems to be deemed as quality stuff around here...
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I was planning on going with Patriot RAM as I've read nothing but good things on Newegg and Amazon, and because it's $86 for 16gb as opposed to $103 for Crucial.

Now I'm %100 getting Crucial 1600mhz RAM simply because of the LIFETIME warranty. I will NEVER have to buy ram again (unless I need more than 16GB :eek::rolleyes:) as long as the Mac I'm using supports 204-pin SO-DIMM DDR3 RAM sticks. Crucial will replace them free of charge for life basically. Obviously there's some restrictions blah blah ;):p but that's what did it for me.

Crucial claims 100% compatibility with the 2011 2.7ghz i7 mini. That + lifetime warranty is exactly what I needed to hear to convince me.
 
Mushkin has never steered me wrong. I think its easy to read the horror stories and think that some products must be horrid. Keep in mind, you're more likely to be driven to make any review at all, if you have a complaint than if you're happy.
 
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I was planning on going with Patriot RAM as I've read nothing but good things on Newegg and Amazon, and because it's $86 for 16gb as opposed to $103 for Crucial.

Now I'm %100 getting Crucial 1600mhz RAM simply because of the LIFETIME warranty. I will NEVER have to buy ram again (unless I need more than 16GB :eek::rolleyes:) as long as the Mac I'm using supports 204-pin SO-DIMM DDR3 RAM sticks. Crucial will replace them free of charge for life basically. Obviously there's some restrictions blah blah ;):p but that's what did it for me.

Crucial claims 100% compatibility with the 2011 2.7ghz i7 mini. That + lifetime warranty is exactly what I needed to hear to convince me.


^^^ yeah crucial seems to a fan favorite allbeit at a small premium in price

Mushkin has never steered me wrong. I think its easy to read the horror stories and think that some products must be horrid. Keep in mind, you're more likely to be driven to make any review at all, if you have a complaint than if you're happy.

^^^ Thats true. People that haze zero issues never even say anything and the one person that has a problem will tell everyone, lol.


I will probably take one last look at my ram options and just order it. Should be fine.
 
This is what I find ridiculous. I hate the fact that the CPU and GPU are soldered to the logicboard. I would rather get the base model, swap out CPU, GPU, RAM, and install at least one SSD. Have a very high powered computer with the Mini's footprint. AMAZING for what I would be using it for, yet completely sleek and hidden if need be.

Solution: Thunderbolt external GPU... if MSI ever gets around to releasing that box.
 
Solution: Thunderbolt external GPU... if MSI ever gets around to releasing that box.

LOL:
TB maxes out at 10gbps
PCI Express (the Videocard standard on PC motherboards) does 80gbps
On board GPU: >2000gbps
IGP: >50000gbps!

Great GPU that TB thingy will be!
The reason to go soldered is that the memory bandwidth is 25 times bigger than over PCI express X16!
 
It's 10 Gbps per channel. The current Thunderbolt chips are able to do 40Gbps in total.

PCIe X16 may do more (it depends if it is version 1, 2 or 3 ;)) but not everything that you put on it will use that much bandwidth. The 40Gbps TB offers can be enough for a videocard to outdo the Intel HD 4000. That means it would suffice for some. The biggest problem is not bandwidth though, it's the price tag. You're looking at a price tag that goes towards the iMacs price tag (I'm including the TB cable, the PCIe box and the videocard in this price tag)! It just seems more economical to go iMac.

Btw, PCIe is not a videocard standard. Other kind of cards like a soundcard, ethernetcard, etc. use it as well. PCIe is also the underlying technology used by Thunderbolt (as well as DisplayPort).
 
LOL:
TB maxes out at 10gbps
PCI Express (the Videocard standard on PC motherboards) does 80gbps
On board GPU: >2000gbps
IGP: >50000gbps!

Great GPU that TB thingy will be!
The reason to go soldered is that the memory bandwidth is 25 times bigger than over PCI express X16!

Running a Radeon 6970 (or something similar) in a Thunderbolt enclosure will still be much faster than the internal HD4000. Also, this:

It's 10 Gbps per channel. The current Thunderbolt chips are able to do 40Gbps in total.
 
This is what I find ridiculous. I hate the fact that the CPU and GPU are soldered to the logicboard. I would rather get the base model, swap out CPU, GPU, RAM, and install at least one SSD. Have a very high powered computer with the Mini's footprint. AMAZING for what I would be using it for, yet completely sleek and hidden if need be.
ha, just ran across this. If we even knew back then, how much more ridiculous it would get in 2014... I own 4 mac's (all 2011 and 2012). I would be hard pressed to buy another one where I'm left without any option to upgrade, when and how I see fit.
 
ha, just ran across this. If we even knew back then, how much more ridiculous it would get in 2014... I own 4 mac's (all 2011 and 2012). I would be hard pressed to buy another one where I'm left without any option to upgrade, when and how I see fit.
That's why you should anticipate your future needs and spec it up accordingly. Or, you could just buy what you need for now and when you need more power, sell it off and use the funds to buy a new one. Resale value is pretty stable for Macs.

Besides, if you get a reasonably specced Mac Mini (2.6/8/1TB Fusion), you shouldn't be running out of power that quickly. It should last you for around 5 years if you do regular to medium tasks (like medium video editing, image editing, etc).
 
That's why you should anticipate your future needs and spec it up accordingly. Or, you could just buy what you need for now and when you need more power, sell it off and use the funds to buy a new one. Resale value is pretty stable for Macs.

Besides, if you get a reasonably specced Mac Mini (2.6/8/1TB Fusion), you shouldn't be running out of power that quickly. It should last you for around 5 years if you do regular to medium tasks (like medium video editing, image editing, etc).
True, Mac's hold their resale value extremely well for hardware. When buying hardware and were talking a few hundred bucks either way, I'll always spend a bit more when it makes sense (like a massive processor upgrade). I did spend more for the beefier i7 quad-core processors for the 2011 and 2012 because it made sense (I upgraded the ram, SSD myself). They're both fantastic machines, never had a single issue.

It's just a bummer they've gone full torque screw, soldiered on nonsense to leave us without any personal customization options at all.
 
True, Mac's hold their resale value extremely well for hardware. When buying hardware and were talking a few hundred bucks either way, I'll always spend a bit more when it makes sense (like a massive processor upgrade). I did spend more for the beefier i7 quad-core processors for the 2011 and 2012 because it made sense (I upgraded the ram, SSD myself). They're both fantastic machines, never had a single issue.

It's just a bummer they've gone full torque screw, soldiered on nonsense to leave us without any personal customization options at all.
Not really. The CPUs have always been soldered. Soldering RAM isn't anything new - it's the trend. Even other PC manufacturers are doing the same.

Apple soldered the RAM in the 2014 Minis because they use the exact same logic board as the 13" rMBP, and all rMBPs also have soldered RAM. It makes no economical sense to produce another variant of the same logic board without soldered RAM to Apple. Besides, once you spec it up with 8GB, you'll be good for at least the next 4-5 years.
 
Not really. The CPUs have always been soldered. Soldering RAM isn't anything new - it's the trend. Even other PC manufacturers are doing the same.

Apple soldered the RAM in the 2014 Minis because they use the exact same logic board as the 13" rMBP, and all rMBPs also have soldered RAM. It makes no economical sense to produce another variant of the same logic board without soldered RAM to Apple. Besides, once you spec it up with 8GB, you'll be good for at least the next 4-5 years.

actually, it kinda is. Traditionally, the processors in desktop systems are fitted into a socket on the motherboard that allows them to be removed and replaced, while systems such as notebooks and tablets have the CPU soldered onto the motherboard. The mac mini's have room to be customized, unfortunately they no longer can be.

2x8gig of ram doesn't cost $300- except at apple (or possibly this other desktop machine with soldiered on parts you mentioned). Replacing the hard drive while still technically doable, is definitely more of a challenge.

Curious, you mentioned another desktop that uses an LGA board that has the cpu, ram soldiered on- which other machines are also doing this? maybe this is more of a trend that I realize.
 
actually, it kinda is. Traditionally, the processors in desktop systems are fitted into a socket on the motherboard that allows them to be removed and replaced, while systems such as notebooks and tablets have the CPU soldered onto the motherboard. The mac mini's have room to be customized, unfortunately they no longer can be.

2x8gig of ram doesn't cost $300- except at apple (or possibly this other desktop machine with soldiered on parts you mentioned). Replacing the hard drive while still technically doable, is definitely more of a challenge.

Curious, you mentioned another desktop that uses an LGA board that has the cpu, ram soldiered on- which other machines are also doing this? maybe this is more of a trend that I realize.
I mean, the CPUs have been soldered since the 2011 Minis. I know that in regular PCs (and even the 27" iMacs, plus the nMPs), they're not soldered. The trashcan Mac Pros even use LGA2011 sockets.

The Mac Minis use soldered CPUs because they use 13" rMBP logic boards.

2x8GB doesn't cost that much, but Apple uses CL9 DDR3L 1600MHz RAM, and DDR3L CL9 aren't exactly easy to find.

I remember it was another Windows HTPC, but I forgot which one though.
 
I mean, the CPUs have been soldered since the 2011 Minis. I know that in regular PCs (and even the 27" iMacs, plus the nMPs), they're not soldered. The trashcan Mac Pros even use LGA2011 sockets.

The Mac Minis use soldered CPUs because they use 13" rMBP logic boards.

2x8GB doesn't cost that much, but Apple uses CL9 DDR3L 1600MHz RAM, and DDR3L CL9 aren't exactly easy to find.

I remember it was another Windows HTPC, but I forgot which one though.
ha the mysterious windows windows machine. you'll have to let me know when you run across it again.
here's your ram- 60 bucks per 8gig chip
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-Impact-1600MHz-HX316LS9IB/dp/B00KQCOTCM

which mini did you get?
 
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