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How much money is photoshop?
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One thing I always consider when I look for a piece of software is how much easily accessible training material is available.
Clearly Photoshop is the winner here, but this thread is about alternatives.
Good, bad, other, I've used the Gimp for over a decade and have learned to love it. The one thing about Gimp is there is nearly an unlimited amount of Youtube training videos and tutorials. So you quickly come up to speed in any area you need, regardless if you think the interface is intuitive or not.
So since the Gimp is free, the source code will always be available so it unlikely to get abandoned, it more than meets the needs of 99.9% of the population and there is a ton of free training material available, learning Gimp is a good investment.
Clearly Photoshop is the winner here, but this thread is about alternatives.
Good, bad, other, I've used the Gimp for over a decade and have learned to love it. The one thing about Gimp is there is nearly an unlimited amount of Youtube training videos and tutorials. So you quickly come up to speed in any area you need, regardless if you think the interface is intuitive or not.
So since the Gimp is free, the source code will always be available so it unlikely to get abandoned, it more than meets the needs of 99.9% of the population and there is a ton of free training material available, learning Gimp is a good investment.
Unfortunately, keeping up with clients and file compatibility is a big part of how Adobe has most creatives over a barrel when it comes to alternative softwares.
1) Buying the software does not make you a designer.
2) Full CS6 for $50 per month is a professional expense for a professional tool. Otherwise you can get student discounts.
3) If you have bought a Mac solely as a tool for business then you need to factor in the cost of software. It's part of the the OPEX/CAPEX in running a freelance or business gig.
4) There are alternative, but nothing I would recommend if you're doing it professionally. I've used Pixelmator a fair bit, though Photoshop and Illustrator are my workhorse.
2) Full CS6 for $50 per month is a professional expense for a professional tool. Otherwise you can get student discounts.
3) If you have bought a Mac solely as a tool for business then you need to factor in the cost of software. It's part of the the OPEX/CAPEX in running a freelance or business gig.
4) There are alternative, but nothing I would recommend if you're doing it professionally. I've used Pixelmator a fair bit, though Photoshop and Illustrator are my workhorse.
Over the years, Adobe has gone from a model whereby those same professionals could buy their individual apps at reasonable prices (I got Illustrator for $299). Illustrator was all I wanted, and all I still want. Then, they bundled it together into the Creative Suite (like MS does with Office), and depending on version, you could pay $1500 for it. (No bundle pricing discount here). Then, they copied MS's poor decisions once more by ditching the Creative Suite option altogether, in favor of their subscription model for the Creative Cloud, whereby you have to continue paying for it if you want to be able to open your Adobe generated files.
Poor choices, Adobe.
Speaking as a professional designer, you're quite correct.
That being said, I find the model Adobe has moved to as borderline extortion. If their prices go up I have zero choice but to pay more or totally lose the ability to work with my files, and that's not an acceptable choice to me.
I'll be holding onto my old software as long as possible.
Couldn't agree more, Adobe has its cartel as Discreet and 3DFX had in the 90's. Their focus is on the subscriptions and selling entire line (needed or not).
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Speaking from experience BTW...
Same, though working with some clients meant I had little choice but to update to the subscription.
I try to like Pixelmator I really do but:
- I open my PSD files it flattens it down onto one layer :S !!!!
- Its brush system is a joke, good luck getting even the most pro artist out there to paint something decent in Pixelmator
- The effects are not in a list which I prefer from PS instead of browsing through a bunch of icons to find what I need.
- Photoshop generally has a lot more manipulation tools in terms of transform and colour/tone
The only thing I give to Pixelmator is the price, wonderfully priced but nothing else.
TL;DR: Pixelmator is for Mums and Dads making christmas cards, PS is for anyone serious about image editing.
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At the moment you get Lightroom 5 and Photoshop CC for $9/month..
Check out adobe website for more details
Just photoshop alone used to be around $2000 where I live..
So the $9/month is quite nice
and soon it will jump to $20 a month. $9 was just to prevent people bombing Adobe HQ
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Which is the alternative Adobe kinda forced on people, such a dumb move. Maybe set it to $15 a month for the entire suite and people wouldn't even bother to crack the software, Adobe would make more profits that way but their business strategy is as immoral as the pirates.
The fact of the matter if you *really* need any of Adobe's pro suite of products (Photoshop, Premiere Pro, After Effects, Lightroom, Illustrator, etc.) then the cost isn't a considerationdespite what others have said here, Adobe does a tremendous job and continues to offer working pros more and more all the time.
If you aren't a professional, you don't need Adobe's pro products, and Adobe certainly doesn't owe you anything even still, they offer "Elements" versions of their products that are very affordable and very functional.
The pro line of products is for people who use them as part of their daily jobthey are meant to be used to *make* money. If you don't use Adobe's products to make money (or to learn how to make money in the future, as a student would), then you really don't need their pro line of products. I think lots of people just *want* the Adobe stuff, even though they don't really know how to use it, and don't make money with it.
If you aren't a professional, you don't need Adobe's pro products, and Adobe certainly doesn't owe you anything even still, they offer "Elements" versions of their products that are very affordable and very functional.
The pro line of products is for people who use them as part of their daily jobthey are meant to be used to *make* money. If you don't use Adobe's products to make money (or to learn how to make money in the future, as a student would), then you really don't need their pro line of products. I think lots of people just *want* the Adobe stuff, even though they don't really know how to use it, and don't make money with it.
Exactly, the biggest issue with Photoshop is that literally EVERYONE has gotten their hands on it and has been using it illegally. And this has been the case for at least two decades now. When this stuff was still boxed, teachers had NO problem handing out their disks to students. Plus, you could grab it cheap off the street too.
Honestly, try making these same arguments with Autodesk, just TRY.
If you *really* need Photoshop at a pinch and don't want to pay anything, this is how to get legal Photoshop CS2 (and the rest of CS2) for free from the Adobe website! I wouldn't really recommend it, but hey! free stuff! It's for Windows or Mac (PowerPC) - so unfortunately, you might not get it to work...
The Mac version will only run in up to 10.3.
The Windows version is still fairly useful since there's still plenty of machines running XP.
I remember when 3D Studio MAX came with a dongle where it would connect to the parallel port on the main board, near on impossible to pirate...
Weather Central does the same with Fusion you buy the software can put it on as many machines as you like though it won't function with submitting the machines MAC Address and connecting a USB supplied dongle.
I am waiting for Adobe to do something similar with subscriptions, a USB dongle when you subscribe to Adobe products, just like good old Discreet
Again I reiterate it's professional software for professionals, yes it's expensive, they are screwing the little people but there are little alternatives... Though stranger things have happened, look at Quark.
need help
hi! i am new here on this forum and i am not very good english speaker so i found very hard to post here something so i first want to say sorry if i used replay option because i don t know where i must post a thread.
Anyway i hope somebody will read this and maybe will give me an advice.sorry again for my english.
i bought a mac mini one week ago and i feel dumb because i just started to use it
i downloaded photoshop from torrent and after the download was ready i tried to install.I opened from downloads list and is just a Mac OSX zip file so i clicked to start the installation .The only one window that open it was expanding adobe photoshop.
The expand process finished after view minutes but that was all.I don t find any photoshop icon on applications so it seems it not installed.How do i know if the installation was ok and where i can find it to open it?
i hope somebody will give me an advice.Thank you in advance
hi! i am new here on this forum and i am not very good english speaker so i found very hard to post here something so i first want to say sorry if i used replay option because i don t know where i must post a thread.
Anyway i hope somebody will read this and maybe will give me an advice.sorry again for my english.
i bought a mac mini one week ago and i feel dumb because i just started to use it
i downloaded photoshop from torrent and after the download was ready i tried to install.I opened from downloads list and is just a Mac OSX zip file so i clicked to start the installation .The only one window that open it was expanding adobe photoshop.
The expand process finished after view minutes but that was all.I don t find any photoshop icon on applications so it seems it not installed.How do i know if the installation was ok and where i can find it to open it?
i hope somebody will give me an advice.Thank you in advance
I'm not sure what argument you want people to make, but if you're implying there aren't pirated copies of Maya/etc. out there you're sorely mistaken.
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No one is going to give you help with your illegal software.
Don't think Adobe does either.
Autodesk has dropped their price of their software significantly over the last decade, however.
To an extent, I think they were also just plain forced down by the market. Other apps that were very capable and less than half their price forced them to come down to be somewhat on par with the competition.
Unfortunately Adobe has no natural competitors and as such no pricing competition.
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Still available on the Adobe site it looks like.
Yes - I'm a pro who uses Photoshop everyday, and I could never replace it with Pixelmator.
However, for someone who isn't a pro (the OP) and who has asked for an alternative to Photoshop then Pixelmator is a good choice.
Seriously?
Anyone planning on becoming professional graphic designer, should learn to use the tight professional software. Forget the freebies and the knock-offs. Any profession environment you enter will pretty much only be using Adobe software. You will be required to do the same.
The cheaper student edition is still available to buy
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Photoshop-Extended-Student-Download/dp/B007USGCT8
and the pro
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Photosh...&qid=1390489640&sr=8-3&keywords=photoshop+mac
Anyone planning on becoming professional graphic designer, should learn to use the tight professional software. Forget the freebies and the knock-offs. Any profession environment you enter will pretty much only be using Adobe software. You will be required to do the same.
The cheaper student edition is still available to buy
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Photoshop-Extended-Student-Download/dp/B007USGCT8
and the pro
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Photosh...&qid=1390489640&sr=8-3&keywords=photoshop+mac
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This is what scares me. I'm getting ready to purchase either CS or CC in February. I hate the idea of subscription so I really want CS6. However, if they aren't going to update it anymore, how long will it remain useful? If there is a compatibly issue with future iOS releases, am I SOL?