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miggitymac

macrumors 6502a
Jan 7, 2009
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a 11" is 51 square inches.

a 13" is 72 square inches.

That's 21 square inches difference :) almost 40% bigger.

Where'd you get those numbers?

I got the 11 inch at 11.8*7.56 = 89.2 square inches.
13: 12.8*8.94 = 114.4 square inches

So the 13 inch is about (114.4-89.2)/114.4 = 22% bigger.:cool:
 

bella92108

macrumors 68000
Mar 1, 2006
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Where'd you get those numbers?

I got the 11 inch at 11.8*7.56 = 89.2 square inches.
13: 12.8*8.94 = 114.4 square inches

So the 13 inch is about (114.4-89.2)/114.4 = 22% bigger.:cool:

I used the diagonal of 13 vs 11 (no decimals), but don't forget you have to use 16:9
 

bella92108

macrumors 68000
Mar 1, 2006
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Where'd you get those numbers?

I got the 11 inch at 11.8*7.56 = 89.2 square inches.
13: 12.8*8.94 = 114.4 square inches

So the 13 inch is about (114.4-89.2)/114.4 = 22% bigger.:cool:

Either calculation, 22-40% larger screen is SIGNIFICANT... :) The "hardly different" comment was uneducated and misleading to others.
 

GeekLawyer

macrumors 68020
K then stick with it. Your decision is clearly an emotional one based on price. If you can't justify spending 10% more, then stick with 2GB
LOL! My decision is impacted by, but not based on, price. I could have easily bought a fully-loaded 13", but that's not the machine I wanted. I already have a 13" MBP that would blow any Air out of the water on specs and bells and whistles.

What I wanted was an 11" Mac notebook - which is a first - to replace my iPad. I think this is a home-run. I'm not trying to convince anyone to do anything or buy anything. You have needs other than mine and I respect your decision to buy whatever you think will best meet them.
 

nidserz

macrumors 6502a
Mar 28, 2008
955
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Dubai x Toronto
LOL! My decision is impacted by, but not based on, price. I could have easily bought a fully-loaded 13", but that's not the machine I wanted. I already have a 13" MBP that would blow any Air out of the water on specs and bells and whistles.

What I wanted was an 11" Mac notebook - which is a first - to replace my iPad. I think this is a home-run. I'm not trying to convince anyone to do anything or buy anything. You have needs other than mine and I respect your decision to buy whatever you think will best meet them.

I agree with you 100%. Everyone's needs are different. This is to replace my iPad as well and not everyone pushes their computers to the limit. Especially when its a secondary computer, which it is for you and me. And to be honest, it's not like 2GB RAM can't handle being pushed once in a while, and a few extra seconds, or a minute won't hurt... IMO of course.
 

bella92108

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Mar 1, 2006
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LOL! My decision is impacted by, but not based on, price.

What I wanted was an 11" Mac notebook - which is a first - to replace my iPad.

Right. I understand. My point was only that in today's terms, 2GB is sub-par. If you want a computer thats small and has minimal specs, get an acer for $200... it'll do everything you say you want to do. I'd never buy a system with the bare minimum specs, you're just asking to be obsolete in 10 minutes.
 

bella92108

macrumors 68000
Mar 1, 2006
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I agree with you 100%. Everyone's needs are different. This is to replace my iPad as well and not everyone pushes their computers to the limit. Especially when its a secondary computer, which it is for you and me. And to be honest, it's not like 2GB RAM can't handle being pushed once in a while, and a few extra seconds, or a minute won't hurt... IMO of course.

That's fine, everyone has their needs... I just don't know why someone would not buy a 4GB for a $100 difference (or $90 if you buy on EDU or EPP)... it's just a small small cost (less than 10%) for such a huge upside.
 

GeekLawyer

macrumors 68020
Right. I understand. My point was only that in today's terms, 2GB is sub-par. If you want a computer thats small and has minimal specs, get an acer for $200... it'll do everything you say you want to do. I'd never buy a system with the bare minimum specs, you're just asking to be obsolete in 10 minutes.
Acer doesn't make an 11" Mac laptop.

As for what you'd do - do it. This is what I've done. I don't find it sub-par or "crippled" in any way at all.
 

miggitymac

macrumors 6502a
Jan 7, 2009
585
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No, talking about the screen size. But even with your #'s... 22% larger is a big difference.

True...if you look at the percentages the 11 inch is 20% lighter too...haha..but that's the percentages.

I'm also debating the 13 or 11 (with 4 GB RAM. I agree that getting the 2 GB will be something I'll probably regret in a year or two).

I have an early 15 inch MBP which I can do heavier stuff on so I'm looking for something to carry around to class.

My issue is whether the extra $300 for bigger screen, more storage, better processor and 2 hours of battery life are worth it.

Considering that either the 11 or 13 will seem a helluva lot smaller and lighter than my MBP, I'm thinking that it is.
 

bella92108

macrumors 68000
Mar 1, 2006
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True...if you look at the percentages the 11 inch is 20% lighter too...haha..but that's the percentages.

I'm also debating the 13 or 11 (with 4 GB RAM. I agree that getting the 2 GB will be something I'll probably regret in a year or two).

I have an early 15 inch MBP which I can do heavier stuff on so I'm looking for something to carry around to class.

My issue is whether the extra $300 for bigger screen, more storage, better processor and 2 hours of battery life are worth it.

Considering that either the 11 or 13 will seem a helluva lot smaller and lighter than my MBP, I'm thinking that it is.

If you're doing web\docs\email\music\etc you'll be fine. 11" is an amazingly perfect size for that. If you're doing gaming or video encoding, strike MBA. Most students would find the 11" perfect. The drawback of ultraslim competitors has always been tiny keyboard and windows... now there's a solution. Comes with a price, but Mac always does :)
 

bella92108

macrumors 68000
Mar 1, 2006
1,610
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Oops wasn't thinking $200 is still a lot for 64 gb just buy two 32 gb us sticks for 50 bucks

Yuck... I can't even imagine relying on 2 separate thumb drives at USB 2.0 speed... yuk yuck yukkkk... lol...

PS - Where can I find a 32GB 2 for $50? The going price is about $60 EACH right now for a name-brand. This coupled with the fact that you have to keep track of what's on what, and USB2.0 speed it's not practical nor cost effective. IMO IMO IMO hehe
 

hleewell

macrumors 6502a
Oct 22, 2009
544
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Apple hit it out of the ballpark with the 16:9 11.6" form factor, and an ingenious inclusion of a full keyboard in very minimalist setting, plus same quality LCD display as their Macbook Pros. How I really wish for a 256GB drive. My current 160GB HDD MacBook is sufficient for my everyday needs but I'd prefer some breathing room in terms of storage. By next year, we would probably see more price drop for 512GB SSD solution. Apple has already included these as high-end options in their MacBook Pro line but as a very, very pricey $1400 upgrade.

A 11.6" Macbook Air with 256GB SSD + 4GB RAM + SD card slot will be perfect. But whatever the Apple Store carries will have to do..for now. :apple:
 
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