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Tagbert

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Also how much bigger is a 14” than a 13”? Do you really see that much of a difference?
14"
12.1 wide
7 tall

13"
11.25 wide
6.5 tall

The usually guess is that the size of the case would not change because they would reduce the bezels. You would probably notice the larger size but it would not be world changing. This is just a bump up.
 

NotTooLate

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Correct answer right here.

However if the 14” MBP gets the XDR display like the iPad Pro has, expect an other $100 on top of it.
I think they will want to charge abit more for a new design , new CPU , new display , but they also want to make a statement and penetrate the pro/enthusiastic market as fast as possible with their ARM offerings , so they will keep it competitively priced , so 100$ extra sounds like a good plan to go aggressively after high volume out of the gate.

They can make the margins back on the BTO`s.
 

Falhófnir

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I was thinking it would take over from the current $1,799 13", but looking at the iMac and iPad Pro it seems Apple is continuing the trend of not being able to introduce a redesign or a new feature (let alone both) without a price bump. So maybe $1,999?
 
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thenewperson

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I was thinking it would take over from the current $1,799 13", but looking at the iMac and iPad Pro it seems Apple is continuing the trend of not being able to introduce a redesign or a new feature (let alone both) without a price bump. So maybe $1,999?
I don't think there was a price increase for the 24" iMac, though there is now a higher tier so I'm assuming whatever bigger iMac comes later will definitely not start at $1,799.
 
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Falhófnir

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I don't think there was a price increase for the 24" iMac, though there is now a higher tier so I'm assuming whatever bigger iMac comes later will definitely not start at $1,799.
I guess it's debatable, the previous 4K iMac started at $1,299 with the $1,099 base model below it. The $1,299 24" is a somewhat nerfed 'base model' and the 'full' version starts at $1,499. So I guess you can argue the retina models started at $1,299 before and still do now, but you're missing out on some features sort of like the $1,099 model previously.
 

Falhófnir

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What do you think, will pro motion come to macbooks?
As it's the same display tech and the same chip family as the iPad I want to say yes, or at least there shouldn't be any technical reason not to. FWIW the iPhone Pro is also (finally) getting it this year by the sounds of it.
 

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Iam affraid (because of high price of ipad) they will keep pro motion and 5g connectivity as speciality of ipads.
My dream setup would be 14 retina with 5g and pro motion. dream combination
 
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deeddawg

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13"
11.25 wide
6.5 tall


The usually guess is that the size of the case would not change because they would reduce the bezels. You would probably notice the larger size but it would not be world changing. This is just a bump up.

Where'd the 6.5 come from?

A 13.3" display at 2560x1600 is 11.28" x 7.05"

... and I can assure you my M1 MBP 13.3 display is more than 6.5" tall.

A 14.0" display at a similar 16:10 ratio would be 11.87 x 7.42
 
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Tagbert

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Where'd the 6.5 come from?

A 13.3" display at 2560x1600 is 11.28" x 7.05"

... and I can assure you my M1 MBP 13.3 display is more than 6.5" tall.

A 14.0" display at a similar 16:10 ratio would be 11.87 x 7.42
Hmmm I used this trig calculator but may have got the angles wrong?
I assumed it was a classic right triangle 30/60/90.
 

deeddawg

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Hmmm I used this trig calculator but may have got the angles wrong?
I assumed it was a classic right triangle 30/60/90.

I'm fairly confident that 30-60-90 right triangles have a different aspect ratio than typical displays these days.

I used the Pythagorean c^2 = a^2 + b^2 and no trigonometry.

Assuming square pixels, aspect ratio gives the relationship of a & b -- in this case at 2560x1600 for the M1 MBP we have a 16:10 display, and thus we know that a = 1.6 * b

Thus, c^2 = a^2 + b^2 with a bit of rearranging becomes: b = sqrt ( c^2 / (1 + 1.6^2))

Since we know c = 13.3 then we get b = 7.05 and thus a = 11.28

With a 14.0 display of same aspect ratio, the dimensions become 11.87 x 7.42

That's a 5.25% increase in width and height, giving a 10.8% overall increase screen display area.
Even at 14.4" the increase is around 17% overall area, with 8% width/height increase.

Thus my thought that folks anticipating a substantial apparent display size difference may find themselves disappointed.
 

Tagbert

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I'm fairly confident that 30-60-90 right triangles have a different aspect ratio than typical displays these days.

I used the Pythagorean c^2 = a^2 + b^2 and no trigonometry.

Assuming square pixels, aspect ratio gives the relationship of a & b -- in this case at 2560x1600 for the M1 MBP we have a 16:10 display, and thus we know that a = 1.6 * b

Thus, c^2 = a^2 + b^2 with a bit of rearranging becomes: b = sqrt ( c^2 / (1 + 1.6^2))

Since we know c = 13.3 then we get b = 7.05 and thus a = 11.28

With a 14.0 display of same aspect ratio, the dimensions become 11.87 x 7.42

That's a 5.25% increase in width and height, giving a 10.8% overall increase screen display area.
Even at 14.4" the increase is around 17% overall area, with 8% width/height increase.

Thus my thought that folks anticipating a substantial apparent display size difference may find themselves disappointed.
You are right, I missed the different aspect ratios in that calculation.
 
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