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NJRonbo

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It's virtualization vs emulation, but if you are running Parallels on an M1 you'll be fine with the Pro and the Max. Parallels doesn't do emulation.

I guess, basically (without knowing much about this stuff) I am wanting to know if Parallels will look and work the same way it did on my Intel machine.

Thanks for the help
 

puckhead193

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What's another +$400 for highest memory bandwidth and double the memory when you're spending $3499? Don't half ass splurge plus you can't upgrade down the road if you change your mind.
I did that and cancelled the order. Once I saw the it would only be another week it was silly not to. Especially since I tend to keep my computers longer.
Also on a non related note I'm not keeping my S7 Apple Watch as the upgrade is pointless this year coming from a S6. So it paid for the upgrade.

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o’bluetouring

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Oct 6, 2020
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I future-proofed my 2014 with 16GB and that’s come in handy now, so Im getting 32GB.

I also have 16gb in my 2014 15” MBP i7, and it’s been running strong. I even ran Parallels and did a couple freelance AutoCAD projects during the pandemic to pick up some income. I’m still debating if it’s time to replace it with the new 14”. I’m running external monitor anyways so 14” will be fine, but can’t decide if I should go with just 16gb or go up to 32gb this time.
 

jdb8167

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Nov 17, 2008
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Zarathu,

Interesting.

Could you dive into this a little more?

I have yet to purchase the new version 17 for M1. I thought that it would pretty much work the same on an M1 machine now that Parallels has accommodated their software for the new silicone chip.

How will it work differently? I know I was able to run it in its own window or via coherence which combined both operating systems into one.

Are you saying it will no longer work like that with all the upgrades Parallels has done to their software for M1?

Or is the problem now that this is M1 Pro and M1 Max and that's a new chipset that Parallels has to deal with?
The Apple silicon version Parallels is virtualization software, he is just wrong. It virtualizes the Aarch64 instruction set architecture for use with macOS, Windows (unsupported by Microsoft), and Arm Linux.
 

jjcs

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Oct 18, 2021
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16GB in an M1 is more RAM than people realize. The memory management in these things is unreal. I went from a 32GB 2018 to an 8GB M1 for a couple of weeks and the M1 barely skipped a beat.

Doesn't help much if you have to load a large dataset. That said, the pricing for these laptops is not horrendously out of line for what you'd pay for a Dell Precision with 32 or 64 GB. Not really.
 

bhall110

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Something to consider is that it is unified memory. So both CPU and GPU will be using the same memory.
 

xtaker

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Jul 31, 2018
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64GB for me. I will have this for many years so it’s just good to have and future proof it if needed later down the road…
 

KPOM

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Oct 23, 2010
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Zarathu,

Interesting.

Could you dive into this a little more?

I have yet to purchase the new version 17 for M1. I thought that it would pretty much work the same on an M1 machine now that Parallels has accommodated their software for the new silicone chip.

How will it work differently? I know I was able to run it in its own window or via coherence which combined both operating systems into one.

Are you saying it will no longer work like that with all the upgrades Parallels has done to their software for M1?

Or is the problem now that this is M1 Pro and M1 Max and that's a new chipset that Parallels has to deal with?

There is a special version of Windows for ARM, but Microsoft doesn’t license it for retail sale. Instead, they use it on their own Surface Pro X, and license it to a handful of OEMs, mostly to make convertible/tablet PCs using off-the-shelf ARM chips made by QualComm. You can sign up as a “developer” and download an “insider build” of Windows 11 for ARM, which can actually run most 32-bit and many 64-bit Windows apps (games are sketchy), but it’s not officially supported and Microsoft could kill the program at any time.
 
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rnizlek

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Mar 31, 2004
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32 GB. Im coming from a 16 GB MBP and I get by okay with that but it would be nice to have a bit more. I do web development and tech consulting work - the largest memory consumption is when I have few decent sized PSD files open to work with client provided designs and various browser windows open for testing. I was tempted by 64 to future proof but I really would love to get the Mac Pro mini (or whatever it will be called) if it comes in at under $4k. I wanted to save my cash for that.
 

Sterkenburg

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Oct 27, 2016
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I went with the 32GB M1 Max, which is already more memory than I need in most cases but will prove useful for the occasional intensive data science/modeling workflow. Will be more than enough for many years, especially since Apple Silicon is very efficient managing memory. The 64GB option covers very specific use cases, a good rule of thumb is that if you are someone who needs that much memory you already know and don't need to ask :)
 

smirking

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Aug 31, 2003
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Doesn't help much if you have to load a large dataset. That said, the pricing for these laptops is not horrendously out of line for what you'd pay for a Dell Precision with 32 or 64 GB. Not really.

I'm actually working with large datasets. I'm a back end developer and at any given time I'm working on multiple websites that each have databases several GBs in size behind them.

The memory pressure graph on the 8GB 13" M1 MBP I trialed was red almost the entire time and on some days I was generating nearly 1TB of SSD writes from swapping. That surprised me because I wouldn't have realized how hard it was working without running monitoring applications.

I suppose had I compared performance against a 13" 16GB M1 MBP instead of a 32GB i7, that extra memory may have yielded significant benefits, so I'm not saying 8GB is all you need. I just think most people are stuck in a 2009 mindset and are greatly overestimating how much RAM they need.

That said, if the cost isn't an issue to you, there's no harm in buying a little extra just in case.
 
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radus

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Jan 12, 2009
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I ordered the 64GB version - better more.

And my be this is the only way to get the 400 Gb/s memory bandwidth.
 
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KPOM

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Oct 23, 2010
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I went with a base model 14" as I only plan to watch Twitch streams and videos on it. It's replacing my 2018 iPad Pro 12.9" and 2017 15.4" MacBook Pro.

And why didn't I buy an M1 MacBook Air for half the price? I wanted MiniLED.
A very valid reason. :)
 

Suxamethonium

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Jun 19, 2014
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I went with 16gb on my 14”, as I have generally found 8gb to be adequate on on my M1 MBA and for me it was largely about the screen for work and for photo editing when out and about.

For me this laptop will be probably a three year purchase (my company allows me to upgrade every 3 years, the MBA I purchased will go to my wife).
 

smirking

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This is only true for some people :p Some are saying that to motivate there overarches thing. But then they still replace it within 2-3 years :p

I truly hate upgrading my computer. I really hope the M1 Max I just bought will keep me settled for at least 4 years. I typically go 4-5 years per machine.

I could handle the expense of upgrading sooner, but the process of getting your new machine setup exactly as you want is just so tedious and frustrating.
 
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