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EugW

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I wonder if the M1 MBA will lose OS support 2 years earlier. If not 2 years than perhaps 1 year earlier.
 
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CarlLikesTech

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Another fun fact is that Apple actually raised the price of the M1 MBA to $1350 in Sweden, up $100 from before the M2 launch.
 

ian87w

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Feb 22, 2020
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I'm breaking my head thinking about the big RAM-question.

I’m getting a new M2 Mac and I’m thinking about how much RAM I should include. Max simultaneous usage may be 15 safari tabs (including some YouTube video), 4 Word documents, 5 PDFs, maybe some Excel/ or PowerPoint rendering. I’m thinking about keeping the system for maybe five years.

PS base version of MBA cost $1500 in Sweden (with the student discount). 14-inch MBP costs $2200. And I'm going to need to get a USB multihub that supports HDR as well with the MBA.
16GB sounds appropriate as a bare minimum. My usage is similar as you, changing the browser to Brave and adding Zoom and Google Drive and OneDrive applets, and my machine is using up 16GB quite fully (only tiny swap file and still fluid multi-tasking). It's a Windows machine, but RAM is RAM. 16GB is the sweet spot for modern computing tasks.
 

ian87w

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Feb 22, 2020
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I wonder if the M1 MBA will lose OS support 2 years earlier. If not 2 years than perhaps 1 year earlier.
Definitely. The M1 Macbook Air is 2 years old already.
Amazing how Apple can sell the same old laptop with the same original price.
 
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Argoduck

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Oct 30, 2021
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Another fun fact is that Apple actually raised the price of the M1 MBA to $1350 in Sweden, up $100 from before the M2 launch.
I don’t know what specifically happened for your MBA price to rise like that in Sweden, but I read years ago that apple fixes prices according to exchange rate at the time they introduce/revise a product. Here (in New Zealand) I always hope our dollar is doing well against the US$ at such times. Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

The conversion does not float eg if our dollar strengthens sharply right after a product introduction it’s just bad luck. OTOH our dollar falls just as often; good luck! Swings and roundabouts.

When I’ve compared, I have found prices here are very close to the US price with our goods and services tax (similar to VAT) and exchange rate at introduction or revision factored in.
 

ian87w

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I don’t know what specifically happened for your MBA price to rise like that in Sweden, but I read years ago that apple fixes prices according to exchange rate at the time they introduce/revise a product. Here (in New Zealand) I always hope our dollar is doing well against the US$ at such times. Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

The conversion does not float eg if our dollar strengthens sharply right after a product introduction it’s just bad luck. OTOH our dollar falls just as often; good luck! Swings and roundabouts.

When I’ve compared, I have found prices here are very close to the US price with our goods and services tax (similar to VAT) and exchange rate at introduction or revision factored in.
The problem with Apple and its currency adjustments is that they will be quickly raise prices, but when the currency gets better, they do nothing. It becomes a simple price hike.

In my country, Apple just released the 2022 iPhone SE, and they are selling it at the SAME price as the iPhone 11. Go figure.
 

Argoduck

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Oct 30, 2021
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The problem with Apple and its currency adjustments is that they will be quickly raise prices, but when the currency gets better, they do nothing. It becomes a simple price hike.

In my country, Apple just released the 2022 iPhone SE, and they are selling it at the SAME price as the iPhone 11. Go figure.
Concerning the SE, yeah that’s weird: "from $799" here versus the iPhone 11 "from $899", 64GB in both cases

It strikes me, based on your first statement, apple prices would tend to converge on historically the worst exchange rate. This would mean little for currencies relatively stable against the US, but would introduce large distortions otherwise!

This doesn’t seem to be the case in New Zealand. However, maybe we’re relatively stable? In any case, I have no data other than New Zealand’s - and then only the few times I’ve bothered to look

I don’t doubt what you report about your country!
 

CarlLikesTech

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Jun 16, 2022
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Yeah, the currency has depreciate to a commensurate rates during the last six months. But I know that Official Apple prices in Sweden are usually $100-$200 more expensive than what can be explained by taxes. I’ve heard that some of that cost is due to currency exchange rate insurance. Man, I would do a lot to get insight into Apple‘s pricing and tax layups. They pay a lot of smart people a LOT of money for designing this. I find it extremely interesting. Don’t get me wrong, I really like Apple, although I think Johnny Ivy believes in designing lighter iPhones as well as lighter wallets. 😁

It would be funny if someone would make a spoof Johnny Ivy light wallet marketing video.
 
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ian87w

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Feb 22, 2020
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Yeah, the currency has depreciate to a commensurate rates during the last six months. But I know that Official Apple prices in Sweden are usually $100-$200 more expensive than what can be explained by taxes. I’ve heard that some of that cost is due to currency exchange rate insurance. Man, I would do a lot to get insight into Apple‘s pricing and tax layups. They pay a lot of smart people a LOT of money for designing this. I find it extremely interesting. Don’t get me wrong, I really like Apple, although I think Johnny Ivy believes in designing lighter iPhones as well as lighter wallets. 😁

It would be funny if someone would make a spoof Johnny Ivy light wallet marketing video.
To me, Apple will simply set prices on what the local market can bear (for Apple, not the market as general). The currency stuff is just excuses. Apple brand is so powerful that many people are willing to shell more for Apple products. Case example in my country, where Apple prices are at least 30% more than US MSRP. Iphone pre orders always sold out. Now, Apple is selling the base 2022 SE at the same price as the 11, for $550. Ridiculous, yes, but people are still buying....
 
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Bug-Creator

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But I know that Official Apple prices in Sweden are usually $100-$200 more expensive than what can be explained by taxes.

Don't forget you get 2 years mandatory warranty in the EU compared to the usual 1 year in the US (without AppleCare).

But yeah as I'd said here and elsewhere near future will be painful for anybody trying to buy any new Apple stuff outside the $.
 
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alok87

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Jun 17, 2022
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I went from a 2013 MacBook Pro as my primary/IPAD Mini 4 as my companion device.. sold both for around $550 and upgraded to two beautiful like new space grey devices M1 Pro 14 (M1 Pro Base 16GB/512GB) inch and MacBook Air (M1 8 GPU Core 16 GB/1TB).. $2150 spent after I factor in the money I received for flipping the 2013 MacBook Pro and iPad mini 4
 
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