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Sensamic

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My two only issues with my SGS3:

1. Uncomfortable to hold with one hand due to the width of the phone and the curve edges. It's kind of annoying.

2. The plastic buttons. Not the plastic body. The buttons. So poor quality... The screen takes two seconds to turn on whenever I press the power button. This is a problem with all SGS3. Well, not problem, but it shows the kind of stupid issues many Android phones have because of poor optimization from their manufacturers, because they release lots of phones every year.

I really like Android. Not having 4.1 yet is not a huge problem for me, since ICS is awesome and much more advanced than iOS 6.

I think a 4.6 screen like the nexus is the biggest I will go next time. No more 4.8, even though it's so nice, but the ergonomics is a problem.

Battery life is good, camera is good, etc. I only have those two previous problems.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Pressing the power button on my GS3 turns the screen on instantly. A 2 second delay is not something that happens on all GS3 as you mentioned.
 

Vegastouch

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Pressing the power button on my GS3 turns the screen on instantly. A 2 second delay is not something that happens on all GS3 as you mentioned.

Well you have to hold the button in for a couple seconds.... On mine anyways, then it vibrates once quickly and then turns on. I dont see that as a problem at all but thats me.

I have no idea what he means by the plastic buttons. There is a volume button and a on/off button that feels like any other of the same ive used before. Not sure if he means how they feel or how they work, or what.

And then there is the home button.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Well you have to hold the button in for a couple seconds.... On mine anyways, then it vibrates once quickly and then turns on. I dont see that as a problem at all but thats me.

That's not true for me. I can just tap the power button, the screen actually comes on before I have time to release it. At least that's how it is on the AT&T version.
 

Vegastouch

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That's not true for me. I can just tap the power button, the screen actually comes on before I have time to release it. At least that's how it is on the AT&T version.

Well im talking about when it is turned off and im powering it up. If it is already on and screen is off, the screen comes on immediately after i release it. This is also the case if i use the home button.
 

Southernboyj

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The one common denominator that causes most bashers to dislike Android, is the fact that it's not iOS, and they expect it to be. Therefore they fail to take time and learn it.

Not knowing how to use it, the moment some issues arrise due to user error, they remember reading about others who also reported the same thing. Ignorance then cheats them out of a great experience.

Rarely have I read where a person has taken the time to learn it, then intelligently listed what they didn't like. It's not for everyone, I understand those who list it's true faults, not those that just pile on popular myths.

The same can be said for 80% of the "Gamers" out there that say Mac's suck. Almost every single one of them didn't even know how to use OS X. Most still think you can't right click on a Mac. I ran into one guy today actually who said Mac's suck because they don't have Function keys...........
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Well im talking about when it is turned off and im powering it up. If it is already on and screen is off, the screen comes on immediately after i release it. This is also the case if i use the home button.

Oh that's a differ story. I responded to Sensamic who claimed "The screen takes two seconds to turn on whenever I press the power button". If he's talking about turning the phone completely on from being off, then that's normal with basically all models of phones. But comming off a sleep state, the screen should come on instantly.
 

ixodes

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The same can be said for 80% of the "Gamers" out there that say Mac's suck. Almost every single one of them didn't even know how to use OS X. Most still think you can't right click on a Mac. I ran into one guy today actually who said Mac's suck because they don't have Function keys...........

That's exactly right.

Far too many people act like experts & bash something they have no clue about. Too lazy to learn something new, if within the first 15 minutes of trying it, they find something they don't like they condemn the whole thing.
 

Vegastouch

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Oh that's a differ story. I responded to Sensamic who claimed "The screen takes two seconds to turn on whenever I press the power button". If he's talking about turning the phone completely on from being off, then that's normal with basically all models of phones. But comming off a sleep state, the screen should come on instantly.

LOL, yeah i wasnt sure. My first thought was turning it on from being powered off with the 2 second delay. Mine doesnt do that when in sleep mode and he said ALL GS3's have that problem.
 

Sensamic

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LOL, yeah i wasnt sure. My first thought was turning it on from being powered off with the 2 second delay. Mine doesnt do that when in sleep mode and he said ALL GS3's have that problem.

There's a slight delay almost every time I press the power button to wake up the screen. On the iPhone 4 the screen turned on instantly, just like with my iPad. The delay is less if I turn the screen on using the home button. I'm not talking about powering on the phone. I assumed everyone had this because I've read many posts about this "issue" on XDA.

I assume it's because of the plastic power button. The iPhone 4 had better power and volume buttons. That's one of the few positive things I can say about the iPhone :rolleyes:

Hey, it's not all perfect. There's no perfect phone. I hugely enjoy using my SGS3, but I'm pretty sure this is my last Samsung phone, as long as the build quality doesn't improve more. The HTC One X seems to have better build quality.

When I saw the new Samsung hybrid Windows 8 tablet I knew not to buy more Samsung products. The case looked so bad quality. The buttons at the top were cheap plastic. To me it looks horrible. The surface, on the other hand, is really good quality. Don't you guys agree on this?

The body of the surface looked superb. Compare that to the Samsung ativ Windows 8 hybrid.

I'm not gonna defend Samsung for giving us cheap plastic buttons... in most of their products, be it a phone, tablet, etc.
 

daveathall

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Aug 6, 2010
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There's a slight delay almost every time I press the power button to wake up the screen. On the iPhone 4 the screen turned on instantly, just like with my iPad. The delay is less if I turn the screen on using the home button. I'm not talking about powering on the phone. I assumed everyone had this because I've read many posts about this "issue" on XDA.

I assume it's because of the plastic power button. The iPhone 4 had better power and volume buttons. That's one of the few positive things I can say about the iPhone :rolleyes:

I have just tried waking mine up to check, I agree with the above, there is a slight delay before it kicks in. TBH, not a deal breaker for me, only a short delay, but nevertheless, not instant on.
 

3bs

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May 20, 2011
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I have just tried waking mine up to check, I agree with the above, there is a slight delay before it kicks in. TBH, not a deal breaker for me, only a short delay, but nevertheless, not instant on.

I've got it as well but not all the time. It really annoys me but as you said not a deal breaker. I had the same issue on my iPhone 4S but that could be because I was jailbroken.
 

Vegastouch

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Jul 12, 2008
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There's a slight delay almost every time I press the power button to wake up the screen. On the iPhone 4 the screen turned on instantly, just like with my iPad. The delay is less if I turn the screen on using the home button. I'm not talking about powering on the phone. I assumed everyone had this because I've read many posts about this "issue" on XDA.

I assume it's because of the plastic power button. The iPhone 4 had better power and volume buttons. That's one of the few positive things I can say about the iPhone :rolleyes:

Hey, it's not all perfect. There's no perfect phone. I hugely enjoy using my SGS3, but I'm pretty sure this is my last Samsung phone, as long as the build quality doesn't improve more. The HTC One X seems to have better build quality.

When I saw the new Samsung hybrid Windows 8 tablet I knew not to buy more Samsung products. The case looked so bad quality. The buttons at the top were cheap plastic. To me it looks horrible. The surface, on the other hand, is really good quality. Don't you guys agree on this?

The body of the surface looked superb. Compare that to the Samsung ativ Windows 8 hybrid.

I'm not gonna defend Samsung for giving us cheap plastic buttons... in most of their products, be it a phone, tablet, etc.

Well im not sure what type of delay you are speaking of. Maybe there is a micro second of a delay for me but id call it pretty instant.

Also still not sure what you mean by cheap plastic buttons on the Samsung. I just took out my iPhone 2G ...which to me is the best built iPhone and those buttons are plastic and dont feel any better imo and the silence button on that broke and i had to get it fixed. I have no issues with the buttons at all.

I dont have a preference for which phone id buy as far as quality. Id buy another Samsung and i also think Nokia makes a good phone so obviously id have no issue buying one of the new Windows 8 phones coming out.
The HTC One X is ok, dont think it is much better built than the GS3. It just doesnt have a removable back cover except for the small piece to put in your SIM card.

As for Tablets, i havent seen a SS Windows tablet. I dont spend much time looking at those. I just dont feel a need or a big want for a tablet. Looked at some today for a little while and the SS's seemed ok. I think the new Asus tablets were better though.
 
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digital.l0gic

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2. The plastic buttons. Not the plastic body. The buttons. So poor quality... The screen takes two seconds to turn on whenever I press the power button. This is a problem with all SGS3. Well, not problem, but it shows the kind of stupid issues many Android phones have because of poor optimization from their manufacturers, because they release lots of phones every year.


I registered to clarify the point about the 1-2 second delay.

It is not some hardware issue or the result of the pesky plastic, but is intentional.

You are supposed to hold the button pressed for about 1-2 seconds before the phone turns itself on.Usually This is accompanied by a slight vibration as well, a haptic feedback that tells you its now ok to take the pressure off the button.(The feedback usually precedes the screen turn-on by about half a second)

The reason this exists in the Android OS is because it prevents the phone from getting turned on by accidental presses/pressure on the power button. I Love this feature as it ignores any accidental/unwanted tap/push/pressure on the power button that might be caused by every-day events. Eg : pushing your phone into your pocket/taking it out..grabbing it from a table..
(edited to add: This feature is only for turning on the phone from the powered off state and not from sleep/standby, the screen turns-itself on the instant the button is pressed if on standby/sleep)

To be honest I'm pretty surprised that people thought this was a hardware issue without thinking of it as the obvious UI/user Experience feature it is. I second what another user mentioned earlier on this same thread..please do not expect the android Os to be identical to the IOS, they are very different.

Hope this post clarifies the doubts some had about the delay :)
 
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Major.Robto

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I herd good things about the s3, I am looking in to one.

I did have a bad experince with samsung before. but then again it was with a **** prepayed.


I am hoping the best for android. I am geting so fed up with apples ****
 

Mrg02d

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Jan 27, 2012
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I switched from iPhone 4s to gs3. Gs3 is so much better, especially when rooted and running jellybean via cm10! As smooth as the iPhone, but so much snappier and WITH eye candy!

The only thing I miss about the iPhone is the premium feel to it with the shiny glass and metal. I dont put a lot of music and movies on my phone because it's a phone. I am too busy when away from home to be watching movies and listening to music anyways, so I find the GS3 to be superior in every way aside from build quality.
 

Sensamic

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Well im not sure what type of delay you are speaking of. Maybe there is a micro second of a delay for me but id call it pretty instant.

Also still not sure what you mean by cheap plastic buttons on the Samsung. I just took out my iPhone 2G ...which to me is the best built iPhone and those buttons are plastic and dont feel any better imo and the silence button on that broke and i had to get it fixed. I have no issues with the buttons at all.

I dont have a preference for which phone id buy as far as quality. Id buy another Samsung and i also think Nokia makes a good phone so obviously id have no issue buying one of the new Windows 8 phones coming out.
The HTC One X is ok, dont think it is much better built than the GS3. It just doesnt have a removable back cover except for the small piece to put in your SIM card.

As for Tablets, i havent seen a SS Windows tablet. I dont spend much time looking at those. I just dont feel a need or a big want for a tablet. Looked at some today for a little while and the SS's seemed ok. I think the new Asus tablets were better though.

The only iPhone I ever had was the 4, and I said on other threads that the home button became less responsive after a year and I've criticized Apple a lot for it. The power button and volume button were rock solid on the other hand. After two years my iPad 1 is still on perfect condition and the buttons are still rock solid. I can criticise iOS and I prefer Android, but it's build quality is way better than any Android tablet.

If Apple were to use plastic buttons I would criticize them. In fact, I'm already criticizing them because it looks like they are going to keep the hardware home button instead of adopting a capacitive button, which would benefit everyone. My personal favourite are the on screen buttons of the nexus.

The SGS3 is my second Samsung phone, so I know they're a company that wants to reduce costs as much as they can so they can have more profits by using plastic for the case and buttons of their products. Just Google the new Samsung ativ hybrid tablet presented on IFA last week and look at the case and buttons (located at the top). Even the keyboard is made of plastic. I would never, ever, buy a 1100$ slate made of plastic... The Microsoft surface pro will cost the same and it has an aluminum case of high quality.

I may own a Samsung phone, but I dislike that company. Never had another product from them aside of two phones.
 

3bs

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May 20, 2011
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If Apple were to use plastic buttons I would criticize them. In fact, I'm already criticizing them because it looks like they are going to keep the hardware home button instead of adopting a capacitive button, which would benefit everyone. My personal favourite are the on screen buttons of the nexus.

I really do miss my Galaxy Nexus because of the screen buttons as you said. I have a GS3 now but I really hate having a physical home button.
 

BoxerGT2.5

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Jun 4, 2008
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About the only thing I miss about the iPhone is some of the polish on the apps. MLB at bat is awful
 
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Sensamic

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Compare the back of the Samsung tablet with Windows 8 and the back of the Microsoft tablet with Windows 8 also. Tell me which is better and which would you prefer.

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And both cost the same. Would anyone buy the Samsung tablet with horrible plastic case for 1100$?
 

Southernboyj

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Mar 8, 2012
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That's exactly right.

Far too many people act like experts & bash something they have no clue about. Too lazy to learn something new, if within the first 15 minutes of trying it, they find something they don't like they condemn the whole thing.

I find that you really can't get a true feel for a device until you take it home and use it for a few days in real day to day operations. So if you've never used a Mac (same with phones) then you won't get a true feel for it playing with it for 5 minutes at Best Buy.
 

ixodes

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I find that you really can't get a true feel for a device until you take it home and use it for a few days in real day to day operations. So if you've never used a Mac (same with phones) then you won't get a true feel for it playing with it for 5 minutes at Best Buy.

Having lived & worked in a cross platform environment for years, I've been using Macs & Windows for ages. Thus in my circle of non-tech computer user friends, I'm the go to guy when advice is needed.

When they want a new windows computer, I always bring up Macs. Give them a demo, and if they express a desire to change, provide some guidance.

Without fail, those who follow my suggestion to remember a Mac is not like a PC, and must be learned, all end up very happy Mac switchers.

Those who judge it before learning enough to truly experience it's advantages cheat themselves out of a great opportunity.
 

Southernboyj

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Having lived & worked in a cross platform environment for years, I've been using Macs & Windows for ages. Thus in my circle of non-tech computer user friends, I'm the go to guy when advice is needed.

When they want a new windows computer, I always bring up Macs. Give them a demo, and if they express a desire to change, provide some guidance.

Without fail, those who follow my suggestion to remember a Mac is not like a PC, and must be learned, all end up very happy Mac switchers.

Those who judge it before learning enough to truly experience it's advantages cheat themselves out of a great opportunity.

Exactly, when I first made the switch.. I bought an iMac just to test the feel of OS X. It was very strange at first and for about 1-2 days I had felt some buyers remorse. I didn't return it though and kept at it, within 1-2 weeks I liked it a lot. By 3-4 weeks I had been only using OS X because I liked it so much more than Windows. Now I'm fully migrated, even bought the Retina MBP.
 

NbinHD

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Compare the back of the Samsung tablet with Windows 8 and the back of the Microsoft tablet with Windows 8 also. Tell me which is better and which would you prefer.

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And both cost the same. Would anyone buy the Samsung tablet with horrible plastic case for 1100$?

Yes, it may look and is in fact made up of more plastic, but look at the hardware and software. Anyway the device will be covered with a case 80% of the time so why does it matter? Aslong as the front looks half decent there is not problem. I find software more important then the hardware though. But I guess thats my opinion.
 

Sensamic

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Yes, it may look and is in fact made up of more plastic, but look at the hardware and software. Anyway the device will be covered with a case 80% of the time so why does it matter? Aslong as the front looks half decent there is not problem. I find software more important then the hardware though. But I guess thats my opinion.

It matters because the pro version of both cost the same: 1100$. For that kind of money we deserve better. If Microsoft can give us better materials, then why Samsung can't?

I don't trust those plastic buttons at all. It doesn't feel right on such a high end product.

But that's me. Some won't care, some will. I do. My SGS3 is a powerhouse, but I don't like too much the plastic feel of the buttons. Just one downside. Everything else is great.

I used to not care about this stuff before, but now I value more what I get for my money. That's why I'm not fond of Samsung (or any company that uses plastic for buttons specially).
 
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