Component upgrade ended way before that, eg my 2013 MBA was not upgradable nor were MBPs of that eraThis worked nicely before the Silicon Mac Era when we could upgrade the components after purchase.
Component upgrade ended way before that, eg my 2013 MBA was not upgradable nor were MBPs of that eraThis worked nicely before the Silicon Mac Era when we could upgrade the components after purchase.
People say they want "upgradable" RAM but really what they want is cheap RAM. Those days are long gone. The reason is the sockets for the RAM have to be off-chip and then connected with long wires (PCB traces) to the CPU. Those traces are slow. Timing is very critical.Hi, I have been an Apple user since Apple II but since TC took office, every year I have a headache in choosing Apple products. This is because their products are no longer user upgradable after purchase...
Component upgrade ended way before that, eg my 2013 MBA was not upgradable
You can’t usually upgrade the RAM in any systems that use LPDDR (low power) RAM: until recently it was only available as surface-mount chips which had to be soldered to the logic board. There’s now a system of upgradeable press-fit LPDDR modules but AFAIK so far those are only used in one ThinkPad model.It is not just Apple, can you add after-market RAM to any modern ARM-based computer, Apple or Not? M maybe not. I've not seen it.
If I need 48 GB VRAM on Nvidia, it will cost more than my high end MBP.People say they want "upgradable" RAM but really what they want is cheap RAM. Those days are long gone. The reason is the sockets for the RAM have to be off-chip and then connected with long wires (PCB traces) to the CPU. Those traces are slow. Timing is very critical.
Why don't we hear from PC users complaining that Nvidia GPU cards are not upgradable? I want to buy the cheapest 4GB GPU and then add cheap commodity RAM and get 64GB. You can't do that with Nvidia.
It is not just Apple, can you add after-market RAM to any modern ARM-based computer, Apple or Not? M maybe not. I've not seen it.
Not sure what pre silicon Mac era you are referring to here. My MBP 2014 wasn’t upgradable, neither was my 2019 MBP, which i got rid off after moving to AS.This worked nicely before the Silicon Mac Era when we could upgrade the components after purchase.
The SSD is socketed? Can’t rememberI have a 2013 MacBook Air. The RAM is not upgradeable but the SSD is.![]()
Funny, over thinking is part of what keeps the lights on at MacRumors and other sites. Imagine how simple life would be if we didn't know about product release cycles and the history of Apple products. We really could do what some of us, myself included, suggested: buy what you need and use it without resentment. And when an updated model is released a month after we purchased ours, we wouldn't know about it, LOL.Op, you are thinking too much.
I'm a big fan of "buy whatever device I need and use it for 4-5 years" tactic... it's worked out remarkably well.What is the best way to beat Apple's upselling strategy?
Op, you are thinking too much.
I'm a big fan of "buy whatever device I need and use it for 4-5 years" tactic... it's worked out remarkably well.![]()
The thing is, there are technologies already available for this, and a few makers have put it into action at the high end.People say they want "upgradable" RAM but really what they want is cheap RAM. Those days are long gone. The reason is the sockets for the RAM have to be off-chip and then connected with long wires (PCB traces) to the CPU. Those traces are slow. Timing is very critical.
Why don't we hear from PC users complaining that Nvidia GPU cards are not upgradable? I want to buy the cheapest 4GB GPU and then add cheap commodity RAM and get 64GB. You can't do that with Nvidia.
It is not just Apple, can you add after-market RAM to any modern ARM-based computer, Apple or Not? M maybe not. I've not seen it.
There is always something new coming down the pike. Just buy the one that fits your needs and be happy with it. I have a MacBook Pro Pro and I love it. No regrets purchasing it over the Mac Mini.Funny, over thinking is part of what keeps the lights on at MacRumors and other sites. Imagine how simple life would be if we didn't know about product release cycles and the history of Apple products. We really could do what some of us, myself included, suggested: buy what you need and use it without resentment. And when an updated model is released a month after we purchased ours, we wouldn't know about it, LOL.
Of course you're happy, almost every device in your signature represents the current model, LOL. 😉Just buy the one that fits your needs and be happy with it.
The SSD is socketed? Can’t remember
Decide just what you need, and stop there. Each next step up is more powerful, but will not be any better for you if you don't use that power (and might actually be worse because of increased noise).By upselling, I mean after adding RAM and SSD to the base Mini M4 model, I may perhaps add a bit more to get a Mini M4 Pro for TB5. Then, perhaps I add a bit more money to get a MacBook Pro 16" for portability or wait for the Studio.
So you are not concerned that perhaps a year later, you may need more RAM?It’s simple: I only buy what I need or want. I never jump to the next option just because of a small (or actually “small”) price difference, or because paying “a little” extra gets me something more. If I don’t need it, then I don’t need it.